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Comment reply on Build Guide: Athlon X4 860K / Radeon R9 270 Gaming PC

  • 60 months ago
  • 1 point

Here is a comparable (perhaps better) Intel build: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/7LLCP6

Rather heavy on the MIR's though.

Comment reply on Build Guide: Athlon X4 860K / Radeon R9 270 Gaming PC

  • 60 months ago
  • 1 point

And you didn't just go with a single 970GTX... why?

Comment reply on Forum Topic "700$ Budget Gaming Desktop"

  • 66 months ago
  • 1 point

Here's the intel side of things: PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type Item Price
CPU Intel Pentium G3258 3.2GHz Dual-Core Processor $70.98 @ Newegg
Motherboard *Gigabyte GA-B85M-DS3H Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard $55.98 @ Newegg
Memory Team Dark Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory $57.99 @ Newegg
Storage Corsair Force LS 60GB 2.5" Solid State Drive $44.99 @ Amazon
Storage Hitachi Travelstar 5K1000 1TB 2.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive $45.40 @ Amazon
Video Card *PNY GeForce GTX 780 3GB Video Card $282.98 @ Newegg
Case Silverstone PS08B (Black) MicroATX Mid Tower Case $33.99 @ SuperBiiz
Power Supply *XFX TS 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply $25.99 @ Newegg
Operating System Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) $88.98 @ OutletPC
Wireless Network Adapter Edimax EW-7811UTC 802.11a/b/g/n/ac USB 2.0 Wi-Fi Adapter $16.69 @ Amazon
Total
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available $694.98
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-12-20 18:27 EST-0500

Since the per-core performance of even a pentium generally beats the crap out of any AMD, it should work out fine for gaming. If you're worried, I would just upgrade the CPU to an i3, like so: PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type Item Price
CPU Intel Core i3-4150 3.5GHz Dual-Core Processor $99.99 @ Amazon
Motherboard *Gigabyte GA-B85M-DS3H Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard $53.98 @ OutletPC
Memory Team Dark Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory $57.99 @ Newegg
Storage Corsair Force LS 60GB 2.5" Solid State Drive $44.99 @ Amazon
Storage Hitachi Travelstar 5K1000 1TB 2.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive $45.40 @ Amazon
Video Card *PNY GeForce GTX 780 3GB Video Card $282.98 @ Newegg
Case Silverstone PS08B (Black) MicroATX Mid Tower Case $33.99 @ SuperBiiz
Power Supply *XFX TS 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply $25.99 @ Newegg
Operating System Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) $88.98 @ OutletPC
Wireless Network Adapter Edimax EW-7811UTC 802.11a/b/g/n/ac USB 2.0 Wi-Fi Adapter $16.69 @ Amazon
Total
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available $750.98
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-12-20 18:29 EST-0500

The nice thing about the motherboard is that it accepts all the way up to an i7 4970, so you can always go up a tier if you need to.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Christmas Build - Under 700$"

  • 66 months ago
  • 1 point

Here, this should outperform the builds on this page (note that it includes like 100$ worth of rebates and many of these deals are time limited. Just keep that in mind):

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type Item Price
CPU Intel Core i5-4460 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor $174.87 @ NCIX US
Motherboard *Gigabyte GA-B85M-DS3H Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard $53.98 @ OutletPC
Memory Corsair Vengeance 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1866 Memory $54.99 @ Newegg
Storage Mushkin Chronos 60GB 2.5" Solid State Drive $45.98 @ Newegg
Storage Hitachi Travelstar 5K1000 1TB 2.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive $45.40 @ Amazon
Video Card *XFX Radeon R9 280 3GB Double Dissipation Video Card $169.99 @ Newegg
Case Xion XON-560 MicroATX Mini Tower Case $29.99 @ Newegg
Power Supply *Corsair Builder 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply $29.99 @ Newegg
Optical Drive Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer $13.99 @ Amazon
Operating System Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit) $102.98 @ Newegg
Total
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available $705.16
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-12-18 22:46 EST-0500

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Change rebate hiding to be build-specific rather than account-specific"

  • 66 months ago
  • 1 point

Nevermind, I see a "No Rebates" option in part selection. Not sure if it was always there. I guess my eyes were just playing tricks on me and I kept missing it.

Edit: Wait, no, that's just linked to your account-wide setting. Hahaha.... well that's a nice shorthand and all, but that's... not really that great...

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Change rebate hiding to be build-specific rather than account-specific"

  • 66 months ago
  • 1 point

And frankly the account settings themselves can stay. They can just be the default option for each build or parts selection. Nothing will actually change for the users that make use of the account option. It will simply give more flexibility for people that make part lists for others.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Change rebate hiding to be build-specific rather than account-specific"

  • 66 months ago
  • 1 point

And you are one out of I don't know how many users on a site without polls. Equivalent to anecdotal evidence about a part failing.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Change rebate hiding to be build-specific rather than account-specific"

  • 66 months ago
  • 1 point

That's assuming they're a user and that at all times they would want to eschew rebates or embrace them. Regardless, the point is that when you are building the computer parts you have to go into your ACCOUNT options and set rebates to off if you want to build a PC under a budget that does not want rebates. That is, I have to go into my settings and mark off rebates if I want to make a build that goes under a budget while having no rebates.

Rather inconvenient and makes each build less modular. Now it's tied to what the account settings that the user viewing it is under when making it.

So if I make a 1500 build, but the user viewing it has rebates off, they'll see it as a 1700 build. To make a 1500 build with no rebates, I have to go into my account settings and then build it.

Oh and then remember to turn it off afterwards for myself.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Opinions needed on 800$ Build"

  • 66 months ago
  • 1 point

What? The build you last linked is still at 826$. The one I linked at the very top of this long thread of comments is still at 826$ as well. Actually almost exactly 800$ if you take out the CPU cooler...

Which one are you talking about?

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Can anyone skim some price off this?"

  • 66 months ago
  • 1 point

Oh and for further shaving, there are cheaper 970's available. I'm guessing you picked STRIX for a reason so I didn't really touch them.

Also consider going to cheaper Z97 board...

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Can anyone skim some price off this?"

  • 66 months ago
  • 1 point

Some money shaved off as requested. I really see no reason to downgrade your CPU to an i5 considering your budget is $2k. If you want to shave off more money, reconsider your case choice. I don't really think you need that big of a case. But that's up to you.

Edited: Changed PSU choice.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type Item Price
CPU Intel Core i7-4790K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor $299.99 @ Amazon
CPU Cooler Corsair H100i 77.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler $89.99 @ Amazon
Motherboard Asus Maximus VI Hero ATX LGA1150 Motherboard $139.99 @ Newegg
Memory Patriot Viper 3 Low Profile Red 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-2133 Memory $59.99 @ Newegg
Storage Crucial MX100 512GB 2.5" Solid State Drive $199.99 @ Amazon
Storage Western Digital BLACK SERIES 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive $73.98 @ OutletPC
Video Card Asus GeForce GTX 970 4GB STRIX Video Card (2-Way SLI) $349.99 @ SuperBiiz
Video Card Asus GeForce GTX 970 4GB STRIX Video Card (2-Way SLI) $349.99 @ SuperBiiz
Case Corsair 750D ATX Full Tower Case $134.99 @ NCIX US
Power Supply SeaSonic X Series 850W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply $138.17 @ NCIX US
Operating System Microsoft Windows 8.1 Pro (OEM) (64-bit) $128.98 @ OutletPC
Wireless Network Adapter Asus PCE-N53 802.11a/b/g/n PCI-Express x1 Wi-Fi Adapter $23.99 @ Newegg
Total
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available $1990.04
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-12-16 13:37 EST-0500

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Opinions needed on 800$ Build"

  • 66 months ago
  • 1 point

Oh, but why did you switch out your case for a full size one? The Gigabyte is still a MicroATX board, so it will fit in your old case choice...

Well that's up to you.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Opinions needed on 800$ Build"

  • 66 months ago
  • 1 point

Sorry just woke up. For your settings running DayZ, just go check the benchmarks of the R9 290 on DayZ. That will be your limiting factor. From what I read the DayZ engine depends on single thread/core performance. That's where any of the Intel offerings shine anyway, so the i3 will not hold you back on that front. Even if it does, that motherboard will accept any of the Haswell/Refresh CPU's, so you can easily just give the CPU back to the store and get a slightly more expensive offering if necessary.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Opinions needed on 800$ Build"

  • 66 months ago
  • 1 point

http://www.tomshardware.com/answers/id-2199660/low-budget-cpu-4150-6300-4350.html

Here, this is a thread with some real benchmarks towards the bottom. There are a bunch of people thrashing each other but, they pull up some actual game tests eventually. Just scroll down. That should show you about where it stands.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Opinions needed on 800$ Build"

  • 66 months ago
  • 1 point
  1. CPU coolers "extending life"... not really. If you're overheating yes, you obviously need one. But as long as you run it under thermal thresholds the CPU will likely outlast your system, especially if you don't overclock. The primary cause of CPU degradation is overclocking because you usually need to pump higher voltages.

  2. Passmark tests should be taken with a gigantic grain of salt. The per-thread performance of that i3 in my build would likely destroy the CPU you're looking at. I've seen a lot of other questionable crap on there, especially in the GPU section.

That being said it's hard to find the particular model you're looking at on anywhere else in order to compare, and AMD is generally considered the price performance leader. So do whatever you want. Just don't get that PSU. And make sure your motherboard is actually compatible. And try not to buy Windows keys off of key sites. It's not even that much cheaper.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Opinions needed on 800$ Build"

  • 66 months ago
  • 1 point

http://www.gigabyte.com/support-downloads/cpu-support-popup.aspx?pid=4731

Actually I just found the compatibility page on their site. Looks like the refresh CPU will work fine with it. It's explicitly listed.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Opinions needed on 800$ Build"

  • 66 months ago
  • 2 points

First of all put a space in between that period and your link so people can actually click on it rather than having to copy paste.

Anyway, you're going to be running an R9 290 on some obscurely branded PSU. That's a bad idea. That's your first and most major issue. The R9 290 are very heavy wattage cards. You don't want those running on a PSU like that. The slightly more expensive Corsair Builders might be fine. You won't want to overclock on them though.

Here, with some modifications. The intel CPU is just my preference. Some people note refresh CPU's working fine with the MB, so I think it'll work fine. For some money savings could just cut off the cooler. You probably won't need to OC:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type Item Price
CPU Intel Core i3-4150 3.5GHz Dual-Core Processor $99.99 @ Amazon
CPU Cooler Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler $26.75 @ OutletPC
Motherboard Gigabyte GA-B85M-DS3H Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard $45.98 @ OutletPC
Memory Corsair Vengeance 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1866 Memory $54.99 @ Newegg
Storage Hitachi Travelstar 5K1000 1TB 2.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive $45.40 @ Amazon
Video Card Asus Radeon R9 290 4GB DirectCU II Video Card $239.99 @ Newegg
Case Cooler Master N200 MicroATX Mid Tower Case $39.99 @ NCIX US
Power Supply EVGA 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply $34.99 @ Newegg
Monitor BenQ GW2255 60Hz 21.5" Monitor $105.14 @ Amazon
Keyboard Rosewill RK-8100 Wired Gaming Keyboard $17.95 @ Amazon
Headphones Creative Labs Creative Fatal1ty Headset $22.99 @ Amazon
Other OS $87.12
Total
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available $821.28
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-12-15 16:29 EST-0500

Comment reply on Forum Topic "A volatile budget PC for a friend to play one game on"

  • 66 months ago
  • 1 point

For now. It'll be more expensive later if it breaks, though.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "A volatile budget PC for a friend to play one game on"

  • 66 months ago
  • 1 point

I don't suggest getting cases with included PSU's. It's just asking for trouble.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "A volatile budget PC for a friend to play one game on"

  • 66 months ago
  • 1 point

Oh, you literally want it as cheap as possible without regards to performance.

Well in that case, my suggestion sticks. Just get rid of the GPU in my parts list because the G3220 comes with integrated graphics (that actually probably beats the crap out of that GPU you put up there)! Plus your old clunker of a motherboard is so overpriced that the CPU+MB combo of my build is actually less expensive.

You could also save some money by downgrading the storage slightly. Putting that aside, I wouldn't suggest any worse a PSU than the one I have listed up there. Terrible PSU's are only costly trouble in the long run. Just don't do it, seriously.

TL;DR: PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type Item Price
CPU Intel Pentium G3220 3.0GHz Dual-Core Processor $54.33 @ OutletPC
Motherboard Gigabyte GA-B85M-DS3H Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard $45.98 @ OutletPC
Memory Corsair XMS3 4GB (1 x 4GB) DDR3-1333 Memory $27.99 @ Newegg
Storage Western Digital Caviar Blue 320GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive $32.99 @ Amazon
Case Azza SIRIUS ATX Mid Tower Case $24.99 @ Newegg
Power Supply EVGA 500W 80+ Certified ATX Power Supply $24.99 @ Newegg
Operating System Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit) $89.98 @ OutletPC
Wireless Network Adapter Encore ENUWI-1XN45 802.11b/g/n USB 2.0 Wi-Fi Adapter $8.98 @ OutletPC
Total
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available $310.23
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-12-15 13:20 EST-0500

Comment reply on Forum Topic "A volatile budget PC for a friend to play one game on"

  • 66 months ago
  • 0 points

Well if you don't mind rebates, here's something I cobbled together in a few minutes. I'm kind of miffed I couldn't find a MicroATX case with USB 3.0 headers to take advantage of that motherboard that would just barely fit under your budget, but oh well.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type Item Price
CPU Intel Pentium G3220 3.0GHz Dual-Core Processor $54.33 @ OutletPC
Motherboard Gigabyte GA-B85M-DS3H Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard $45.98 @ OutletPC
Memory Corsair XMS3 4GB (1 x 4GB) DDR3-1333 Memory $27.99 @ Newegg
Storage Western Digital Caviar Blue 320GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive $32.99 @ Amazon
Video Card XFX Radeon R7 260X 1GB Core Edition Video Card $88.00 @ Newegg
Case Azza SIRIUS ATX Mid Tower Case $24.99 @ Newegg
Power Supply EVGA 500W 80+ Certified ATX Power Supply $24.99 @ Newegg
Operating System Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit) $89.98 @ OutletPC
Wireless Network Adapter Encore ENUWI-1XN45 802.11b/g/n USB 2.0 Wi-Fi Adapter $8.98 @ OutletPC
Total
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available $398.23
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-12-15 12:50 EST-0500

Comment reply on Forum Topic "$1600 PC? 1440p ultra settings?"

  • 66 months ago
  • 0 points

RoG Swift 1440p or just 60Hz?

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Cable Management"

  • 66 months ago
  • 2 points

I don't think this is a newcomer thing, I think it depends on how much of a crap the person gives. My builds have "bad" (aka "it's not pretty") cable management. I just make sure that everything is in such a way that it doesn't really impede airflow and that's where it ends. Maybe one day or another if I feel like it, I'll do cable management but it's not like there's anything especially difficult about it. It's just a pain in the butt. As a computer engineer when I was putting crap down on breadboards in my classes the only important thing is that the pins were connected, not how pretty it looked. The latter phase lasted all of a few minutes.

I don't know if this would be worth making a subforum as I don't know how many people that have bad cable management actually care about themselves having bad cable management. I sure as heck know I don't. It runs fine, the temperatures are fine. It's done. It's just not gonna get many votes because this site is a computer fashion show. It might fit into another forum already.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Theoretical Performance"

  • 67 months ago
  • 2 points

Theoretical performance differs depending on drivers and games selected. You'd need to take a lot of data and then do a lot of number crunching on it.

Either that or if 3DMark has an API you could do some data mining to get an average performance index for each selection of parts (practically only 2-3 of them actually matter anyway). That's pretty much the best you could do in any reasonable amount of time.

However that's supposing that the end goal is gaming and gaming only.

Comment reply on Calvingreen17's Completed Build: I could possibly get murdered for this

  • 67 months ago
  • 1 point

Can you jot down the actual prices?

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Default build save options"

  • 70 months ago
  • 1 point

Can I at least have answer to question 2? Otherwise I think I'm gonna start experimenting.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Default build save options"

  • 70 months ago
  • 1 point

Well I'm not sure where to post this, but I went and finally got around to making that Greasemonkey script for this.

https://greasyfork.org/scripts/3949-pc-parts-picker-helper

I have a few questions before I make it public:

  • First of all, anyone using Chrome and Tampermonkey, does this thing work there?

  • This is for the developers What value would you prefer to be submitted to the server to essentially do nothing within the select of the parts overwrite section? At the moment, I submit "null". This generates an error on your end (which to me is still a heck of a lot better than overwriting my build). Should I just make it blank?

It took about 4 or so hours I think, mainly because I seriously have not touched pure Javascript in a very long time so it took a bit of fiddling and a lot of googling to get it to play with an element loaded with AJAX properly. To give you an idea I think I tried about 4-5 types of event handlers to catch it loading before finally going with setTimeout which I should have done to begin with.

About it, lemme know how it works out.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "14 Year Old's First Build! ($1350)"

  • 71 months ago
  • 1 point

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type Item Price
CPU Intel Core i7-4770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor $304.99 @ NCIX US
CPU Cooler Cooler Master Seidon 120V 86.2 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler $29.99 @ Newegg
Motherboard MSI Z97 PC MATE ATX LGA1150 Motherboard $89.99 @ Newegg
Memory G.Skill Ares Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory $144.99 @ Amazon
Storage PNY Optima 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive $97.98 @ Newegg
Storage Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive $69.99
Video Card Gigabyte Radeon R9 290 4GB WINDFORCE Video Card $379.99
Case Fractal Design Define R4 w/Window (White) ATX Mid Tower Case $84.99 @ NCIX US
Power Supply Rosewill Capstone 750W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply $69.99 @ Newegg
Operating System Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit) $89.90
Total
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available $1362.80

I actually ended up bringing it back closer to your original build. The savings going to micro were not as large as I expected, and I decided that you liked that case. Also, it is 20 dollars more but that is all due to the SSD. It's twice as large. You can scale it back down to yours to save money. I also managed to keep the 16gb RAM. Lot's of MIR'S though.

Edit also consider this MB http://pcpartpicker.com/part/msi-motherboard-z87g43

Also you can get this cheaper and get a better MB if you have a Microcenter near you.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "14 Year Old's First Build! ($1350)"

  • 71 months ago
  • 1 point

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/tech-support/281827-does-ram-affect-streaming-like-xsplit-and-so-on http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/tech-support/220584-stream-quality-guide

You don't really need that much RAM. Also if you're just going to keep this as a non multi gpu build I would suggest saving some money by going down to a smaller form factor. You'll save some money and it'll look better. I would get a better PSU and get a k variant of the CPU with the savings off of the RAM and form factor. That is a good price for a non overclockable i7, but overclocking gives you extra life on a CPU. It's an investment. Otherwise if you're not planning on overclocking either way, you don't need Z97.

Comment reply on dabatten's Completed Build: First Gaming/Coding Rig

  • 71 months ago
  • 0 points

Computer engineering? It depends on where you're attending but you might not be doing quite as much coding as you think. At GA Tech for instance most of the older curriculum involved EE stuff, digital circuits, and then some coding. And none of this coding needs a terribly strong computer. Mostly building low level stuff (VHDL/Assembly/C) for embedded systems and FPGA's and crap... along with standard engineering classes (physics, Calc 1-3, DiffEQ, etc). Again depends on where you go, but this is mostly going to be a gaming rig. That 4770K isn't going to be getting much of a workout until MAYBE your later years if you decide to go into something like Computer Vision, where the OpenCV library is horribly intensive. Which is fine, I guess.

I made a gaming rig in college. I didn't have as much money to blow on it as you did, I got lucky and won a Chegg thing to build it, since my college job didn't pay much. I also skipped classes all the time to play stuff on it. Was nice.

Anyway, let's see. The build itself...

  • You didn't need that expensive of a motherboard. The motherboard is irrelevant for overclocking on Haswell (aside from which variant it is... ie Z,H,etc).. you're not even doing SLI yet, but you have 3 slots.

  • A 4GB 770 is a waste of money. You would have been far better off with an R9 290 for less money. If you didn't want to go AMD, would have been better off cutting down on spending here and there to get a GTX 780.

Looks like you missed out on some other sales considering the prices of the other parts but eh it works, I guess? When was this made?

Comment reply on Forum Topic "So anyone tried making some parametric builds?"

  • 72 months ago
  • 1 point

... I guess no one's really using the feature much huh?

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Building PC on carpet?"

  • 72 months ago
  • 1 point

I've built stuff on the carpet sitting on the couch... practically every surface imaginable. And I've never had an anti-static bracelet on. I personally just say touch your case when touching any PCB's and chips directly... but I've never had static fry my system. Up to you mate, you can be as careful as you want.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "So anyone tried making some parametric builds?"

  • 72 months ago
  • 1 point

I've listed a very simple improvement in your announcement thread:

Tried using it for a bit. Another important question: are you going to add an option to sort it by best $/gig ratio? Because that's very important. You can easily choose capacity ranges in the filter, so it's easy to limit the price ceiling, and you know what you're looking for. But you're not always looking for simply the cheapest within that. A good example of this is SSD's. https://pcpartpicker.com/parts/internal-hard-drive/#t=0&m=12,21,32,33,34&S=120000,256000&sort=a6

I want what's at the top of this sort, not simply the lowest priced option, which will obviously just be the lowest capacity SSD.

I'll also go a bit further on that and say that perhaps letting people pick out what exactly they wanted to prioritize on in in general would be nice. Price isn't always the determining factor. ie generic prioritization.

Aside from that there are a few other things that have been mentioned in that thread, mainly having more filters. I'll list a few that I would find useful:

  • unlocked vs locked processor (i5,i7).
  • as an addon to the above, limiting the generations back that the processor goes would be nice (otherwise it's kind of useless)
  • Form factor of the motherboard.

I mean you guys have a pretty impressive database. There are a heck of a lot of ways to query that data to make generic builds for people to work off of. This feature is a first step, and it's a good one. I am happy enough lol.

Comment reply on Blog Post "Parametric Part Lists"

  • 72 months ago
  • 1 point

Tried using it for a bit. Another important question: are you going to add an option to sort it by best $/gig ratio? Because that's very important. You can easily choose capacity ranges in the filter, so it's easy to limit the price ceiling, and you know what you're looking for. But you're not always looking for simply the cheapest within that. A good example of this is SSD's. https://pcpartpicker.com/parts/internal-hard-drive/#t=0&m=12,21,32,33,34&S=120000,256000&sort=a6

I want what's at the top of this sort, not simply the lowest priced option, which will obviously just be the lowest capacity SSD.

Comment reply on Blog Post "Parametric Part Lists"

  • 72 months ago
  • 1 point

Ah, I've been hoping that you folks would implement something like this for ages. I had no idea it was in the works. Now I can actually make static lists based on general price ranges that automatically select the best options available at the time.

Question: Does this save you on server side processing? I'm guessing the queries would go a lot faster because the machine knows exactly what it's looking for, for each part list (and nothing goes out to display during this process); which is a lot more efficient than a human picking things out... but that depends on the polling interval, which leads me to:

Question 2: Does this "choosing the best price" happen at intervals on the server side or every time the part list is loaded?

Comment reply on spense626's Completed Build: 780 Ti SLI , 4770K , Liquid Cooled DarthMaul V 2.0

  • 74 months ago
  • -1 points

I would at least suggest replacing the 780 Ti's you have with Classified 780 Ti's, if you can do an exchange. IIRC the normal ones don't have unlocked voltage. If you're putting these on water it's just really waste to keep voltage locked ones that are very likely worse binned and on a worse PCB. They would last longer and they only cost 30 bucks more (drop in the bucket considering all the crap you have in there).

Comment reply on spense626's Completed Build: 780 Ti SLI , 4770K , Liquid Cooled DarthMaul V 2.0

  • 74 months ago
  • 0 points

If you're doing this to please anyone else, you're doing it wrong in the first place. I'm asking all of this because if I was building this, I would be very displeased (and ask myself wtf I was thinking) that after all of this spending, all I have is a essentially a normal 780 Ti SLI setup. It isn't anything amazing like this (well granted, this goes well over what you spent on yours, but I"m just saying): http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1815021

It's just a normal SLI build (with mediocre sound, to boot)... with well over 4000 sunk into it. And there is a time and place for disregarding other peoples' opinions. After all you have executive judgement on your own build. Mine is usually when people complain about cable management. I could care less if I get downvotes for that because cable management in the areas where I skimp out on it makes no functional sense. But here? I'm just giving you honest opinions on functional parts. It's not about pleasing me. I'm asking you if, looking at the data I presented, you're truly satisfied with this. And you can't come up with a rebuttal.

Anyhow, thanks for reminding me why I disliked posting on these forums. People who make builds are too defensive (or just disregard everything), and the people who downvote don't have any actual rebuttals against your statement, they just do it the cowardly way by clicking that downward arrow. Plus it seems like most anything anyone cares about in here is how a build looks. I should just hang a disco ball in one of them with utter crap part choices and see what happens. I really hate this reddit-like system for comments. Builds, makes sense. Comments, not really. Do what you will I guess.

Comment reply on spense626's Completed Build: 780 Ti SLI , 4770K , Liquid Cooled DarthMaul V 2.0

  • 74 months ago
  • -1 points

Okay, this is going to be very hard to actually reply to because you at no point did proper quoting. But that's alright, I'll do what I can.

You say that is overkill but yet you say later to invest in more/faster ram which is next to pointless for gaming past 1600mhz. I would never skimp on my motherboard and having a 1200 W PSU allows me not to touch that component for years to come aka future proofing.

  1. What do you mean by "skimp" on your motherboard? I'm just saying you're not using any kind of setup that warrants that motherboard. You're just doing SLI on two high end cards and maybe some overclocking. You can do that with practically any board ranging from 120-200$ on Z87. Heck, mine has 3.

  2. If you really want to "future proof" you wouldn't have bothered with a 4770k. You would have gotten one of the 3930k or 4930k's. And if you saved on various things that don't help your immediate performance, you would have spent about the same.

  3. http://www.anandtech.com/show/6372/memory-performance-16gb-ddr31333-to-ddr32400-on-ivy-bridge-igp-with-gskill/14 Faster ram is not pointless. Not a huge bump but since you're "future proofing" lol.

  4. Your PSU... first of all, Nvidia GPU's are likely only getting more power efficient as time goes on, not less. The same goes for Intel CPU's. You could have gotten a 900-1000 Watt PSU and not had to touch it until it broke, assuming you wanted to just play with SLI like you're doing right now. If future proofing a component that's bound to fail at some point (far in the future) anyway is that important to you, then I guess that's fine.

I also would never use the Kraken G10 as I don't want my VRM turning into a incendiary grenade.

You haven't looked at reviews of the G10, have you? Or what, are you running Furmark as your game of choice? VRM temperatures are actually lower during gaming. Furmark is where you have to maybe worry.

SupremeFX Formula does a great job and sounds fantastic, speakers do not interest me currently and wont for my desktop, new born daughter who sleeps in our bedroom :) I have a denon 7.1 setup in the living room with a 70" Sharp for movies/games/****.

I wasn't strictly talking about speakers. I meant better earphones. However good that sound card is, you're likely wasting it with that because from what I can tell it's connected via USB. From the screenshots I'm not sure if it even plugs into the motherboard's DAC. If it does, that's a bit better but either way you could do with a better pair of earphones to complement your new mega rig. That's all I'm saying.

Overkill on a case? to each his own I would rather build in something that does not leave me banging my head against the wall and am able to reuse for a few years, as for the mechanical keyboard I am still deciding on which to buy but no rush on that. Also, please do comparisons on the evo and pro it is hardly a upgrade the only "advantage" is the pro will supposebly last longer than the evo but in a non-enterprise environment the evo should last 8-10 years ( I probably will own it no more than 2 )

  1. If you really like working on it so much, that's fine.
  2. The Pro is generally better in every way (speed and everything), but yes the big advantage is not that it will supposedly last longer. It's that it will for sure last longer. It's MLC vs TLC. MLC always wins in longetivity. I'm just saying it's strange that you decided to chop down on the price when you were wanting to future proof anything else. Is anything as future proof in the SSD department as one of the best SSD"s out there?

Oh and finally, why did you not get the Classified versions of your cards? You went with SC. You're doing a full custom loop water cooled setup. You could do better with a better binned card that has unlocked voltage.

I'm not just trying to diss you here. I just find your part choices odd. This is one of those builds where I want to go "ooh, ahh, so much money spent, this is so great"... but then I look at the build and functionally it's not that far above what any normal 780 Ti sli setup would achieve, and for a heck of a lot less money. Just go look at my build and replace the 780's with 780 Ti's . I would have spent ~ 400$ more which (if you don't include the price of the plasma TV) would have put it at like 2800. And it would perform no worse. Do you get where I'm coming from?

Oh, and finally, assuming you do ever need the full wattage from your amazing PSU, please make sure your socket can handle it.

Comment reply on spense626's Completed Build: 780 Ti SLI , 4770K , Liquid Cooled DarthMaul V 2.0

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Should i build a PC right now?"

  • 74 months ago
  • 0 points

The answer to this question depends on a few things. Namely: 1. What resolution will you game on? 2. Do you want Intel or AMD for your processor? 3. What is your budget.

If you're looking for a high budget build I would recommend waiting for the next line of processors. Haswell can be very annoying to overclock, and Intel says that they'll make their next line not have crappy inner layout (most people attribute it to TIM, but it isn't the TIM, it's the spacing).

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Default build save options"

  • 74 months ago
  • 1 point

Thanks... I just looked at how this actually works, and this would actually be more "fun" than I thought using Greasemonkey. It looks like you dynamically load the data into a hidden div element when "Save as" is clicked, so I have to add event handlers to dynamically generated elements. With jQuery this wouldn't be that bad, but just using plain old JS I have to do some ugly things to get it working (which jquery takes care of with .on). Either that or I could overload your loading function to also inject some handlers, but that would be more trouble than it's worth, especially with minified stuff. Probably also have to make something that periodically checks if the form exists.

If your devs do say no, I guess going to make a jQuery dependent script for this. >_>;

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Default build save options"

  • 74 months ago
  • 1 point

It does default to that. Though the name is static (would it have hurt to put in a rand() name or something fast saving?). My issue is that when you choose to overwrite, the one that is selected is usually a completed build at the top of the list. That means the selection is essentially semirandom. So say you click off of it on accident while scrolling down the list of what to overwrite and then click Save because you thought you chose something but you didn't, it'll overwrite a completed build (or whatever is at the top of the list). Just by good practice standards I think at the very least this should default to "Choose a build" or something rather than that. I know it's tempting to only load existing keys from the database so you don't have to have extra server side logic to see what happens if people select the null option.

Though this could be handled through JS as well.

Also the other issue is that although you have some javascript in place to see whether a user has clicked in the "overwrite" field, you don't have any in place to detect whether they've gone back to typing into the "Make a new build" section. So say I first think about overwriting a build but then decide to make a new one. I type in the name of it but then I also have to remember to change the radio value because unlike almost every other site that handles these things, this doesn't detect that I've changed my mind. As a result I just overwrite whatever is currently selected down bottom and I end up looking for a new build only to find out that I overwrote one of my old ones and I don't even remember what that old one had in it so too bad. >_>

Seems kind of nitpicky but it has been annoying me for quite some time and I don't think it's a particularly difficult thing to change. I'll go ahead and make a Greasemonkey script for it if it's too much trouble.

Comment reply on xshadowinxbc's Completed Build: Screw Color Themes V3

  • 74 months ago
  • 2 points

ANGRY OCD COMMENT ABOUT HOW YOU HAVE MORE H'S IN YOUR SECOND ARGH AND YOU DIDN'T CONSISTENTLY STRETCH OUT YOUR T'S.

Comment reply on xshadowinxbc's Completed Build: Screw Color Themes V3

  • 74 months ago
  • 1 point

I wanna note... the biggest problem with this case is how they set up the bottom section's HDD's to be a hot swap bay. It was a huge mistake because their hot swap PCB was found by users to be unreliable anyhow, and it causes it to basically be RIGHT UP AGAINST the PSU and have no room for fan cooling. If they rotated the bay 90 degrees and got rid of the hotswap bay. there would be a lot more room for wire management and the HDD's would be better off.

Comment reply on xshadowinxbc's Completed Build: Screw Color Themes V3

  • 74 months ago
  • 2 points

Yeah, I actually fixed the PSU while I was taking these pictures. What you're seeing is when it was messed up. I didn't notice it till after, though.

Also, the case is far from small. You get that misconception because it looks small because of how much is in it, but it's a pretty big case... for the top section. I do think the bottom section needs a few more inches, though. Also this case's setup makes it so that it easily beats any larger case in airflow. These "poor components" are doing much better than they would be in any "larger" standard case. Trust me.

Comment reply on xshadowinxbc's Completed Build: Screw Color Themes V3

  • 74 months ago
  • 1 point

Well I don't have to worry about it anymore. With this case setup, I could have left the other one on air cooling and both probably would have been fine even for overclocking. However, this wasn't possible on the Fractal case. In the Fractal case, the top card would inevitably break 80C and start throttling at some point. I should have switched the case out earlier instead of going water. But it works, and now I think I can overclock these cards a bit further. The important thing is that both cards are far from throttling now.

I'll probably get to the cable management at some point (few months or so), but it's just that bottom section can be incredibly difficult to access AFTER the parts are in. I think the MB section comes off though.

Comment reply on xshadowinxbc's Completed Build: Screw Color Themes V3

  • 74 months ago
  • 2 points

Basically using it as a monitor... but yeah, not normal I guess.

Comment reply on ElusionPDX's Completed Build: Just starting out

  • 76 months ago
  • 1 point

You need to put down actual prices before we can tell you whether this is a good build or not. If those graphics cards did actually cost you 250 each, then uh... Bad. Really bad. You could have just gotten a 780GTX for that much. Heck, I would opt for a 770GTX over two of those, but that's just me.

Comment reply on gunnermatthew's Completed Build: (First Build) The Cube

  • 76 months ago
  • 1 point

Just a note, can see you (or somebody) in picture 4. Looks a bit old to be in school.

Anyhow, most of the part choices are okay, but I think your MB choice is really, really overkill. You have like one graphics card... and I don't think there are any worthwhile features to be worth the price premium. There's no reason for you to be getting that monster.

Dunno how often power failures occur over there, but remember to consider a UPS. Also, consider your sound setup at some point if you haven't already. You're not getting the most out of a good system without visuals and sound.

Oh, and maybe upgrade to a Korean 1440p monitor. You have a 780 Ti, should do decently.

Comment reply on UltimateDave's Completed Build: The Dragon Razer

  • 77 months ago
  • 2 points

Was this Craigslist or something? For a grand, it's a pretty good bargain, even if some of the parts aren't very good... like that Razer gear. But even if you take away the price of all of that Razer gear, it's still a bargain.

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