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R9-280x and I5-4690K boosted to 4.5 Ghz.
But then I'd want to overclock the 4790K and I doubt the Hyper 212 would be enough.
True, but I could go with the 1TB mushkin and have 4x more space! My current 1 TB drive is 2/3 full just with games, photo editing software, and temporary storage (damn, TIFF images).
I was hoping to keep all that on the new SDD, and actually get another hybrid drive for storage, bringing the total to 3 drives and 3 TB.
Plus, I have 2 TB external hdd that is about half full, and 9 years old, so Im really paranoid about losing that data now.
My reasoning was when I bought the CPU a year ago that I could save $100 with the 4690K, use a TX3 air cooler, and overclock maybe just a little bit. Stock was 3.5GHz, and I thought I could get it up to 4GHz.
It wasn't until over a year later that bought I the Kraken and decided to push my stock 3.5 GHz CPU to 4.5GHz. I can now do that with lower temperatures than with the TX3 and 4.0 GHz.
Either way, 4690K of 4790K, I'd still go with the Kraken or any other liquid cooler, and push the 4790K up to 5.0 GHz.
Ooooh, AMRA 3 framerate...ARMA has always been very touchy and poorly optimized. On an American Battle Royale mod server, I usually hover between 55-75. On Breaking Point and Exile, it can go lower to about 50. Performance varies widely depending on what mod, what server, what map, how many players. I'd say ARMA has the most erratic performance of any game I've played. I do still love it though.
At the time, the 4790K was over $100 more
Its coming. Been eyeing this guy for a while.
I knew someone would catch that
No they're definitely not backwards
There is no side panel fan slot on the windowed R5, but the bottom fan I had in place WAS blowing air directly into the GPU. I'm going to try just the front fans tomorrow. Sleep is needed badly. What you are saying does make sense though, but then, what about the 2 front fans? Shouldn't the 2 in the front and 1 on the bottom setup be virtually the same as 1 in the front and 0 on the bottom? Maybe the two 120mm fans are running faster than the 140, seeing as they are connected to the PSU and running at full speed, and are displacing that air to somewhere less than optimal?
I'm wondering just how accurate these readings from HWiNFO really are.
Maybe I should also also test the fans by connecting the 140s to the motherboard as opposed to the case's fan controller.
Thanks for the completely useless answer
Where did you get it $208 though?
I've said it before and I'll say it again - Mini ITX cases look awesome.
That said, you are going to be limited by the size of the case when it comes to cooling. On the other hand, Phanteks makes quality hardware, and with slots for 4x 140mm fans, that should be more than adequate if you are not going to overclock, and it is always worth getting fans in the case. That isn't a loud case, and with 140mm fans instead of 120, it would be much quieter and cool better than with 120s. It looks like the case only comes with 1 fan though, so I would get more I may be wrong, but I don't think non-K CPUs can be overclocked anymore.
(I'd probably go with this cooler too)[http://au.pcpartpicker.com/part/cryorig-cpu-cooler-h7)
Or, you could get a pricier liquid cooler. You have room at the top in the two 140mm fan slots for a large 280mm radiator. That could wroth looking into.
Your name...Farscape fan?
You can always get a different fan for the cooler as well. 2, even.
I chose at the time what I thought was the more cost effective cooler - The TX3.
The Evo and H7 both do look...cooler...than the TX3 ;)
Actually, that 2nd link seems like a good deal. 3 RGB fans and a controller? Yes please? You could get 3 of those single color LED fans with no contoller for $10 less.
I think if you are not overclocking your CPU too hard, or not at all, you would be good. I've heard better things about your cooler than my TX3, which has during the winter sufficed for overclocking my build to 4.4 GHz. Still havn't breached 70 degrees. During the summer I was at 4.2 hovering around 75 degrees Celsius, but I had less case fans then. I'm not sure at all about overclocking with Mini ATX and Micro ITX. Zero experience. Is this something you would like to do?
You could probably do better with the cooler. I'd hate to see the mobo, RAM, and CPU go to waste because of inadequate cooling. Then again, my TX3 is apaprently inferior to that, so who am I say? I did just upgrade though...looking at you 4.6 GHz I5-4690k.
Man, Micro ATX and Mini ITX cases are saweeeet.
Damn, those are expensive
Where do you get those custom cables?
Alright. I guess what I was trying to say was that the setting you wanted me to apply were the same settings I could enable with turbo.
Thank you for your help so far! I do want to overclock but I'm still not getting it. In my BIOS, turbo mode is set for all cores, and set to run at max frequency at all times. I'm sorry, I know I may be testing your patience, but I still don't see the difference.
How is this different than just using turbo?
What should I look for when choosing my next motherboard exactly?
Like what? Please tell me so I don't destroy my computer. What about the "turbo" option I have (4.0 Ghz, 4.2, 4.4)? Shouldn't the computer being able to tell what is kosher with those stock options?
Please explain this to me. I need to learn.
I'm not sure exactly. I'm using the stock "turbo" settings through the motherboard. Where might I be able to find this? Is it CPU input volt? Vcore volt? How do I control this voltage?
Looking at the UEFI, the only voltage setting that changes when I switch "Optimized CPU OC Settings" is the Vcore voltage. At 4.2 GHz, it is at 1.20 V, but also in adaptive mode so that it will apparently only give it that much power if it needs it.
Well it seems to handle 4.1 GHz ok during the summer, maxing out at around 75 dergrees C, but now during the winter I have it up to 4.2 and it hasn't gone over around 65. I also did add two case fans though. I would like a little more space in the case and more wiggle room for temps though. I do plan on upgrading the case and mobo in the future as well.
Lol well I had left over fans from my old computer and I wanted more! Check out my new double fan!
Well, at first it seemed intuitive to install it like that. Both the Antec logo and the power switch on the outside would be oriented properly, and the input titles inside would be legible. They would all be upside down if the PSU was upside down, so I thought that was the way to go. I also have a dog and his hair gets everywhere, and the idea of the the fan taking that in scares me. I've seen a lot of builds with it upside down, and there are good reasons for doing so, but I can't find good info on how much more beneficial having it upside down would be for performance and temperature. The PSU fan doesn't seem that powerful anyway, and even though the GPUpulls air up and the PSU pulls air down, there doesn't seem to be any turbulence and it looks like there is plenty of space for air for both with the rear dust cover. I'm going to see what I can tomorrow cable wise, but I would love more info.
I can't hear it over the case fans. All in all, the PC is slightly louder my laptop, but has a soothing sound like a slight breeze. No rattling, mechanical noises, or strained airflow sounds. Smooth overall.
Ah, damn. Well I think this will all do just fine for a while. Not really even worried about the extra GPU, unless Half Life 3 gets released tomorrow and becomes the most graphics intensive game in the market.
Unless...I could also use my old 3dForce4 Ti4200 lol. I still have nightmares about that thing.
Ok, sounds like it will enough for the foreseeble future. Since I made this though, if I wanted another 250 Watt GPU, what wattage PSU would be good 900 Watts, with 200 Watts of headroom?
Seasonic or Antec, I know they are both reliable brands. I'm just worried that with everything hooked up to my computer running at its 447 watts, that this may not be enough. Headphones, MIDI controller, speakers, keyboard, mouse, external HDs etc. Forgive my lack of knowledge. This is all new to me and it is hard to find info on some of my stuff, as outdated as they are.
I do want a good sound card in the future, and perhaps another video card, although if I got another video card, I KNOW I would need a bigger PSU.
Well, I suppose it wouldn't hurt. If people saw what I was working with that might help me upgrade those parts in the future. Or will I be flamed for including 10 year old speakers? Guess we'll see...
Well, this is no longer a budget PC. I've purchased all the necessary parts. But I do have one last question - should I include extra fans? Or, rather, will I NEED extra fans?
I have two old, but refurbished (cleaned, greased) 80mm Raidmax fans that I remember were pretty quiet and I've found a way to retrofit them to my build, but I'm not sure if I need them and if I do need fans maybe I could get some better ones?
Would my external hard drives and midi controller be relevant?
Very nice. Did you HAVE to remove the drive bays to make the GPU fit though?
No input here. Just seeing how far this feed will go.
Lol, by orders of magnitude it is indeed, but I kinda need permanent storage.
I already bought a 1 TB hybrid drive - price and space of an HDD, but much faster. I can't afford an SSD over 256 GB, and I need over 350, and I need it now.
So, 1 OS on 2 hard dries - possible?
Thats all in the manual though right?
Could using old, but cleaned and operational case fans cause fire?
How does one avoid...sploding their PC?
Its OK man, I'm scared too. Cables scare me. Gears and aperture blades and other camera parts? Those don't explode or catch fire when installed incorrectly.
Can that actually happen? .....guys?
Boy, I really screwed up the title! Could a mod please change that to "Will This Paint Work For Case Modding?"
Yes, you've been very helpful. Thank you! I forgot to mention that the drive-bays are a mostly bendable plastic, and the dust cover is what I assume to be alumin(i)um.
My mistake, I WAS using VirtualBox, not VMWare.
You are right about the beta, but I was hoping that SteamOS would come out of beta sometime soon.
You should be able to. I don't think it would be any different than installing them on one HD. If you are talking about Linux, you may need to designate which HD to boot from first, as the BIOS designates HD boot order, but I think, at least in the case on Linux, that GRUB would let you choose regardless of which HD is first in boot order.
How well were your CPU and HDD packaged by SuperBiiz and NCIX? They have a horrible ratings on ScamAdviser.
I ask this not only because I'm working on my own build and they do have tempting prices, but because I work as a UPS package handler and I know how roughly most packages are treated, like how some employees pretend to be ninjas and throw envelops. I try to avoid online shopping...one time, my laptop RAM came to my house and the package had a footprint on it - still survived, thanks to NewEgg. Since it went through my building, I know exactly who did it mwuahaha.
Hmm. Well the price isn't far off. President's Day is coming up. Do you think there will be good sales then?
By best color, do you mean accurate? Some people love smart phone displays, because of the vibrant colors, but AMOLED screens are the furthest thing accuracy, having no color-management.