Haha do you like it? It's made out of recycled motherboards.
So the ugly bit should be facing the back, not the ugly bit facing the intake fan?
Yeah, how can you tell its the wrong way?
I did wonder that, although others have told me it is okay.
Very well. Excellent choice.
Unfortunately, the PC keeps having BSODs even after reinstalling W10. CACHE_MANAGER, IRQL_NOT_LESS_EQUAL, CRITICAL_PROCESS_DIED, MEMORY_MANAGMENT. Before you say its the memory let me just say I did run MemTest for 4 hours and it passed. I also have the latest drivers. Thinking of scrapping it if I can't fix it.
Your welcome. I would recommend an 850 EVO from Samsung. Reliable drives. They're a bit pricey, but worth the high cost. SanDisk and Crucial make some really good ones too.
Hey there. Great work with your build. I'd recommend you invest in an SSD as your boot drive. It is a night and day difference from a traditional HDD, way faster and much more reliable and durable. 120GB ones costs $60 canadian I think.
Okay, fair enough, we are all loyal to brands. It's good you feel so strongly about Corsair. But I (and many other people) have suffered the coil whine with the CX series. I was in a repair shop (I used to do an apprenticeship there building computers and wiping hard drives) and we were testing a motherboard with a different PSU, and the PSU was a CX430. And the guy there was wondering what this whining noise was and where it was coming from. I told him how the CX series, particularly the CX430, has these problems.
Yes. Just don't waste your money on an AMD, the architecture of them is years behind Intel. You have nowhere to upgrade to on the FM2+ socket. Apart from losing two physical cores, you are good to go. If you want a quad core but can't afford a 6th gen i5 or i3, get a Haswell i3, like a 4160 or 4170. Or, if you can stretch, a 4460 i5. I have a 4460 and it's just a great all rounder - video editing, gaming, web browsing, nothing this chip can't do.
I wouldn't say corsair are cheap. Their "cheap" PSUs are junk, honestly, they are. They are known for terrible coil whine. While I have never known them to do that, the internals just aren't very good.; EVGA's cheaper ones are actually okay, despite being made by the dreaded HEC. Some OEM's, like HEC and SeaSonic, make better PSUs for companies like EVGA and Antec then they do themselves. Surprising what you said about SeaSonic though, considering how expensive they are.
An FX6300 would be far from fine. Heck, a 970 would bottleneck a 6300/8350. Even a 980ti would bottleneck a 9590.
A i7 860 will bottleneck that, and that is slightly better than the FX6300 in gaming, or about equal.
Very true, but there's a reason why people use i5s and i7s...they are decent. Unlike the ageing FX series.
That 980ti will SERIOUSLY bottleneck the CPU. Even an R9 390 would. You would get more than 60 fps on the triple A titles with something like that GPU and a i5. Waste of money. Also, I would replace the SSD with a Samsung equivalent or Crucial equivalent.
Yeah. Heck, even Ubuntu ran slow on it. Although Ubuntu is quite demanding.
What era was it from? Any machine I get pre 2006 usually ends up being gutted for parts like hard drives, RAM, and power supplies and optical drives, as well as windows keys. The case, mobo and CPU go in the trash. Yesterday, I aquired a custom built machine with 1GB DDR, Semrpon 2600+ and an ASRock motherboard. I had a little fun with overclocking the CPU, and removing the heatsink. Surprisingly, the system booted even with no CPU fan. I then took the 1GB RAM out, 80GB HDD, case, media card reader, and a very nice 2001 SoundBlaster Audigy. I then smashed up the rest, its too old, slow, and obselete to be of any use. Still, some great finds.
Yeah. I used to use ASUS, will always use Gigabyte next time. Great value for money. I don't know where about in the BIOS you can turn it off, but the instruction manual will say somewhere. :-)
The orange strip is a path for the audio so it doesn't get interference from other electronics. I have the slightly higher end Z97 D3H and I love it, and it has the same LED strip as yours. If you don't like it, you can turn it off in the UEFI.
It was mine too!
At the time I had very limited knowledge of computers, like I said. Until fairly recently, I didn't have much knowledge of power supplies at all.
Lol, I think Gateway bought them....not sure if they exist now....
Yeah, I'll post some other pics soon.
Yeah. The PSU is of decent-ish quality like I said. I don't usually wait for new video cards as there are always new ones coming out, and there always will be. Shame I already bought the 750ti. Most of the games I play are nVidia optimized anyway. In the future I plan to upgrade to an R9 380 maybe.
?????are you referring to my other build?
EDIT: Sorry I didn't see the reference to the eMachines PSU!
Yeah LOL. Turns out their some Taiwanese PSU/case manufacturer..........funny thing is though is that power supply was in a 2002 PC and it still works 13 years later, last time I used it, and I am confident it will still work.
Cool :-) Its not really about the wattage, but the CX series are just low quality in general. They also have bad coil whine, even when the PC is off, have you heard any weird noises coming from it?
Yeah, I have already built it. I was on a bit of budget, hence the 750ti. SLI isn't really for me anyway, as the motherboard only supports CrossFire. Yes yoiu are right the 950 is a bit better than the 750ti. Most of the games I play are more CPU intensive than GPU intensive, I'm not a huge gamer. I play Minecraft, TS2016, GTA V, and CS:GO.
Yeah, I had two fans. One bringing air in at the front and one exhausting it at the back. There is a radiator very close to the PC which probably didn't help.
How do you get those temps with the crappy AMD stock cooler? My temps when idling were 67 degrees alone! I now have an i5 and temps are much cooler.
Also, the PSU isn't really that great. But if it works for you, that's what matters. ;-)
Lol I had the same motherboard and CPU! If you can try and get a refund on the board and get a better one, was terrible.
How about adding a 1TB HDD for games too?
Have you heard of Carey Holzman? He makes some really good PC building videos. I find them more detailed and more down to earth than Linus.
Hey check out my build: http://pcpartpicker.com/b/WrNNnQ this is the one I was talking about with the i5 and Z97.
Yeah, never been to the states before although would like to one day. :-)
Yeah. In the UK, where I am, there is a PC building magazine called Custom PC, and they built a Skylake gaming PC for just under £600 ($860) which had an i3 6100 overclocked to 4.4GHZ on a ASRock Z170 Extreme 4 motherboard.
Typical intel with them removing the feature. Its like when they stopped G3258 users having an overclock on H81 motherboards when they upgraded to Windows 10.
Yeah, lol I am on the otherside of the world in the US where you are its 5 am here in england its 20 past 5 in the evening.
Honestly, some parts in this build a way overkill. First off, you have a brilliant Tier 1 (I think it may be tier 2) PSU. Well done. You didn't go for something crappy like a CX. But there is a 550W PSU. If you don't have much power being consumed and are using a large power supply, it can actually cause all sorts of problems, anything from surges, and is not energy efficient. Second is why did you go with a Z170 motherboard? You have a locked CPU. Unless you plan to upgrade to a unlocked CPU or care about some features lime M.2 it is a waste of money. With this money saved, you could have got an SSD and not some slow mechanical drive.
Apart from that, its good. You could also have proabably got an i3 6100 if you got the 550w PSU and a H110 motherboard. Just puttin' it out there ****
Get an SSD. I do like the G4400, its great value for money. PSU isn't great, but as long as it hasn't exploded, you should be good.
Yeah, me too lol :-) I didn't say the 750ti was $150, but the R7 370 was.
In terms of waiting for Zen to come out, I don't hold up too much hope for it. There's always new CPUs coming out, yes even with AMD, like some new APUs last year (namely the 7870K) and of course AM1. Just no new exciting CPUs. The trouble with AMD is just they keep changing socket design. Zen should be based on AM3+ or FM2+, existing platforms to build on. Although AM3+ is old, there are some new AM3+ boards coming out that support USB 3.1 and M.2.
And of course, you'll have to use DDR4. So there is no upgrade path for existing users. I used to be a big fan of AMD only a few months ago, but as soon as I got an i5 I just love it. Never will go back to AMD again. For budget builds, I like to use the Pentium G4400.
Now that BLCK OCing is available on non K Skylake CPUs, there is simply no chance AMD has against Intel.
On the subject of overclocking, can you use an aftermarket cooler to OC the 5350? I thought AM1 used some weird type of mounting the cooler.
I'm not knocking down this APU, I understand it is very inexpensive...can you overclock it?
Okay, maybe a 750ti is not too high end, but it just doesn't make sense paying $150 for a video card for a $50 CPU......he could get one of them new Skylake Pentiums and a DDR3 motherboard, allowing him great future proofing and the 520 Iris graphics are decent.....I can't really recommend AMD CPUs anymore because of how out of date the architecture is, for example the FX chips, they are very outdated and just don't compare to modern Intel CPUs. Heck, even the most powerful AMD chip, the FX9590, is about the same, if not worse, than an Intel Core i3. And the FX9590 requires very high end motherboards and water cooling because of its high TDP. A Core i3 6100 and a cheap Gigabyte motherboard costs $180, where as an FX9590, decent motherboard, and a water cooler, cost $423.99. Thats a $240 difference! The only advantage the 9590 has over the 6100 is its 8 cores, but the 9590 is essentially an overclocked 8350. The i3 will be much newer, futureproof, upgradeable, and far less expensive. This goes with all intel CPUs (except the price is usually more expensive than the AMD alternative). I recently switched from a FX6300 and a 2011 760G motherboard to a modern i5 4460 and a Z97 and I love it. I get SATA 3, UEFI BIOS, M.2, USB 3.0, SATA Express, everything you could ever want..and its not that more expensive than the 6300.
Just puttin' it out there.......
Note his RAM is only 1600mhz, which will seriously impact the performance of an APU. Not to mention FM2+ boards are far more expensive than AM1. AM1 boards cost as low as £20 ($30) here in the UK, where the cheapest FM2+ board costs almost twice as much.
Yeah. You see, the APU uses your RAM. APUs really benefit from high speed RAM, hence why the FPS on the APU isn't great, because you only have 1600mhz. It would be interesting to see how it performs with faster RAM (like 1866) and then compare it to the GPU. Thinking about it now, I read somewhere that those Kabini APUs only support 1600mhz or 1333mhz anyway. :-\
I wouldn't upgrade to an R7 370 or GTX 750ti in the future, I think that would be a bit too high end for your Athlon. I'd recommend something like an R7 240 or 250.
I do like the AM1 platform for low power and very cheap PC builds, never tried gaming though. I use Intel CPUs now.
Its nice to see someone with just a bog-standard computer build, sometimes we (especially myself) get tired of seeing killer gaming machines with 980TIs and i7s and X99 and water cooling lol.
Are you sure the APU graphics aren't better then the GT 610? I have the GT610 and an i5 4460 (upgrading to a 750ti) and it can't do too muhc gaming, although minecraft is a cpu demanding title, not graphically intensive.
Yeah just did. The window is also on the right hand side.,....I like the look of the case but I'm not sure if I'd ant the font on everything upside down....I diagress....this is a great build hope you enjoy it and it lasts you for many years to come ;-)
Oh okay cool :-)
Yes, great idea. First off, do yourself a favour and get a SSD in there. Use a 120 or 250GB SSD as the boot drive for Windows and maybe a game or two as well as frequently used programs. Use your other drives for games and large files. The PSU is overkill, but oh well. I think it would have been better for you to get a more high quality 500w unit. Ignore all the comments about your PSU like "oh it will blow up". The only problem I have with the CX series is the coil whine (not sure if your unit has this) and the high failure. If it is all working for you, don't bother replacing it. I personally don't like Thermaltake cases, I find them to be ugly and not very good quality but that's just my opinion.
Onto peripherals. Get yourself a decent 1080p monitor. I recommend the AOC 21.5" IPS monitor. Upgraded from a 1280x1024 19" Dell monitor from 2009 and it was well worth the upgrade. Would never go backl.
Apart from these, this is a great build. :-)
First thing I would do is get an SSD. Then get a better power supply. Then upgrade to a 8350 or 8370 if you want to stay on AM3+ or an i5 4460 and a H81/B85. Then upgrade RAM.
Why did you go for black/blue case when you have red internals?