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Comment reply on Forum Topic "X62 Kraken and replacement Radiator fans question(s)"

  • 2 days ago
  • 1 point

For the Amazon thing, just be careful and make sure not to throw anything away. Do your best to pack everything exactly as you got it and you should be fine. Don't abuse it too much as from what I've heard, it is possible to get your account banned.

As for having fans on both sides of the radiator (most people usually refer to it as "push/pull"), you can fit it on the front of the case. On top, you won't have the clearance. Honestly, for a slim 360mm radiator, you don't need it. Push/pull is better left for those 60mm+ thick custom loop radiators. Also, for NZXT AIOs, they don't give you extra long screws to mount more fans on the radiator. As far as I know, only Corsair gives you extra long screws for push/pull (even though they only give you enough fans for one side). Sure, you can buy more screws at Home Depot, but anyway, the extra slightly better temps (we're talking less than 10C in most cases, maybe 5-7C on average) are not worth the cost of buying extra fans. Again, I would leave push/pull for thick custom loop radiators.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Another discussion on big brands"

  • 2 days ago
  • 1 point

but AMD cut the launch price, so joke on them.

Not quite. They had to cut the price because the benchmarks for Super were not in their favor. Also, people were expecting the prices to be lower in the first place (people even went so far as to say that AMD are working with Nvidia to fix video card prices - that's how much people were upset about Navi prices), so finally lowering them only after their competition revealed superior benchmarks is bad optics for AMD.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "NZXT H510 (non elite) vs NZXT H500"

  • 2 days ago
  • 2 points

Front panel I/O configuration. You get a USB Type C port and the audio jack requires a splitter if you want to use a mic and headset (I think it comes with the splitter). That's pretty much it. The refresh is really more significant for the H700 and H200 since they now have the single captive thumbscrew to remove the TG panel and removable 2.5" SSD sled if you don't want it mounted on the front side.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Will the RTX 20 series be obsolete by 2020"

  • 2 days ago
  • 1 point

Nvidia did a great job with their real time ray tracing marketing, so much so that now the same reviewers who were bashing the lack of support for real time ray tracing are recommending "future proofing" systems with RTX Super over RX 5700 XT (or at least if they aren't outright recommending it, they are still mentioning that it is a factor worth weighing when comparing the cards... and there are still only three AAA titles that actually support it!). That kind of marketing, while impressive, doesn't hold a candle to game consoles and their massive hype train. We're on the express line to 8k 120fps DXR ULTRA baby! CHOO CHOO!

Seriously though, that kind of leap in hardware out of absolutely nowhere, I just don't understand where people pull this out of. It seems to happen with each new generational console launch. Hmm, wonder why? CHOO CHOO!!!

Comment reply on mayatola's Completed Build: Build for my brother

  • 3 days ago
  • 1 point

I mentioned in the description that this is a spare part that I had. Since it's a pain to bother selling it, I just gave it to my brother for this build.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Opinions on Impossible and Beyond meat substitutes"

  • 3 days ago
  • 2 points

Haha, yeah. I mean, losing the saturated animal fat is a good thing, but there are still some pretty calorie dense fruits that people love (avocados, dates, figs, etc.). I don't think I could eat more than a couple bunches of grapes though, and while I love guacamole... ****, I could probably eat a tub of that stuff :(

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Opinions on Impossible and Beyond meat substitutes"

  • 3 days ago
  • 2 points

LOL!! Yeah I guess I should have mentioned that my wife's friend was pregnant at the time. But after delivery, she kept eating those grapes and couldn't drop the weight. She went to the doctor to find out why, and after he asked the right questions, his jaw hit the floor. Not sure if she ever gave it up but for her sake, I certainly hope so!

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Will this cooler hold my i9 9900K down under 50°?"

  • 3 days ago
  • 1 point

The 9900k gets really hot. You do need a pretty good cooler to keep it running well. In general, you want to keep it under 80C when under load to preserve the life of the chip. The H100i will do the job, just don't ever expect it to stay under 50C under load unless you keep your system in a freezer.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "X62 Kraken and replacement Radiator fans question(s)"

  • 3 days ago
  • 1 point

No, the NZXT stock fans for their AIOs are good. The Aer P fans deliver more static pressure and push more air through the radiator than those ML140 fans, and they operate at a comparable noise level. I've tested a lot of Corsair and NZXT AIOs (thanks and sorry to Amazon), and the X72 was easily the best one as far as thermals and noise level. I know the fans don't quite look like good static pressure fans with their blade design, but just try them out and see for yourself. If you don't think they are performing very well, then replace and test them yourself. I would definitely try the stock fans though as NZXT does produce pretty good static pressure fans.

As for radiator placement, it does matter. If you place it in front, you will have cooler CPU temps. Your video card will operate at slightly warmer temps (depends on your case too), but overall, it's fine to mount in the front. The only thing is, it is best to have the tubes oriented so that they are coming out of the bottom. The problem is that you generally don't have the clearance for that due to the video card (unless it is vertically mounted). It's not a huge deal, but with the tubes oriented on top, there is a chance for air to get trapped in the loop. This has happened to me and I did RMA my X72 Kraken as a result (NZXT has good customer service).

If you mount it on top, you won't have the trouble with air getting in the loop, and your video card will get fresh air keeping it cooler than a front mounted radiator, but depending on your video card (mine is the 2080 Ti), your CPU temps will be higher. Even still, due to the air getting in the loop, I keep my radiator mounted on top.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Will this cooler hold my i9 9900K down under 50°?"

  • 3 days ago
  • 1 point

No, even if you meant a 50 degree delta over ambient (I'm guessing you just mean 50C), that's a negative. I have the same cooler (just the RGB Platinum version) on a 9900k and while gaming, I'm seeing average temps of around 65C (peaks at 78C in some instances), though this is for a CPU intensive game (Assassin's Creed Odyssey ultra settings 3440x1440 - I see CPU usage from 50-90%, but average around 40-45%). This is also just for stock settings, but I'm running the fans at 50% max for low noise (can only game at night).

I have run the fans at max speed which is noticeably loud on my chip overclocked to 5.1GHz. While benching, I still saw temps as high as 80C, again with maxed fans.

The best performing cooler that I've tried is the X72 Kraken as it can keep the 9900k overclocked pretty cool (around 75C) overclocked during stress tests and gaming with fans maybe hitting 60% (which is still barely audible). It is a 360mm radiator though. If you like Corsair better and want to try the H150i Pro, you really need to replace the stock fans as they aren't really going to remove heat from the radiator fast enough, even while maxed (they are only 1600 RPM fans, really quiet, but bad at cooling the radiator with a 9900k).

Also, why 50C? Even with a custom loop, you will exceed 50C under load. I've seen people post their temps with a 9900k and 2080 Ti in a loop with 5 x 120mm worth of radiator and they are still around 60C. Those temps are well within safe operating margin.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Opinions on Impossible and Beyond meat substitutes"

  • 3 days ago
  • 3 points

Really interesting post, thanks. My wife is really interested in Beyond Sausage so I'll have to give it a try.

In general, I prefer vegan due to my mother's side history of cholesterol and how animal fat doesn't digest well in my system. Sodium isn't really an issue for me as I work out and sweat (I actually had issues with not enough sodium in my diet). But yeah, vegan definitely does not equal healthy or even skinny. My wife had a friend who was vegan but overweight (borderline obese). She ate 5 pounds of grapes every night for months. That's roughly 1500 calories in sugar just for dinner. Maybe that's a pretty extreme case, but anyway, thought I would add that little bit to help dispel that myth.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Opinions on Impossible and Beyond meat substitutes"

  • 3 days ago
  • 1 point

Thanks for the heads up. I don't think the Beyond Beef is widely available yet though. Can't find at stores and Amazon has a 4 pack (4lbs total) for $112. I know that can't be right.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Bench Test with Water Cooler"

  • 3 days ago
  • 1 point

Depends on the case. If there isn't a bunch of glass that you might end up scratching or there is some spot to secure the radiator while fitting your motherboard, it should be fine. Some people actually prefer to mount the cooler before putting the motherboard in the case (though I admit it's probably rare). If it will be a hassle to fit it though, just remove it before installing into the case.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "2 x570 vs 1 x470"

  • 4 days ago
  • 1 point

Well I imagine it's just build quality because you're getting PCIe gen 4 which requires server grade PCB construction. Also you will get better memory support, though that won't be an issue with B450 or X470 if you aren't buying memory higher than 3200MHz. As for VRMs, you are fine with any as they are overkill and the new chips are efficient and don't overclock well anyway. Also, if you get a B450 or X470, you will need to get the BIOS flashed. I've heard that AMD is offering a kit for free, but not sure what it is (a loaner chip to boot and flash?). If you don't want the hassle or don't have a spare first gen Ryzen chip, I guess just go with X570.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "What cooler for r7 3700x?"

  • 4 days ago
  • 1 point

You're honestly fine with the stock cooler. The thing sips power as it's very efficient, and it doesn't really overclock well anyway. A 360mm AIO is overkill, a 120mm is generally outperformed by cheaper air coolers and likely not to get you more performance than the stock cooler, and a 240mm is still probably too expensive for like another 100mhz on your chip. I guess if you care about aesthetics, go with the one you want, but as far as performance goes, don't expect too much for the price you will be paying.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "2 x570 vs 1 x470"

  • 4 days ago
  • 1 point

Go with the one that has the features you need, whether it is wifi or the intel lan. You won't really go wrong with any of them as far as performance (I watched that builzoid video as well), so take your pick. I got my brother the B450 Gaming Pro Carbon (got an awesome deal at Micro Center) since it has wifi and bluetooth and two M.2 slots. Didn't want to bother with PCIe gen 4 or the chipset fan (though not sure if this is an overblown thing or audible/annoying on the lower end X570s).

Comment reply on Forum Topic "What Is a resonable price to sell my PC and how should I sell it ?"

  • 4 days ago
  • 1 point

I sold my old system on craigslist, but you can also try offerup which is a phone app. I got a ton of offers from offerup, but everyone was trying to lowball the hell out of my offer (which was already very generous). If you intend to list it there, I would add around 10-15% to give you some negotiating headroom.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Opinions on Impossible and Beyond meat substitutes"

  • 4 days ago
  • 2 points

Are you sure about that? Where are you able to find it for a good price? I'm seeing $6 for 8oz of beyond meat (two 4oz patties) at Target, Walmart, and local grocery stores (Stater Brothers here). That's $12 a pound, a lot more than regular ground beef. 85/15 ground beef (at least here in California) goes for $5 per pound. While I prefer vegetarian (vegan if possible), I can't really spend that kind of money for a meat substitute.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Opinions on Impossible and Beyond meat substitutes"

  • 4 days ago
  • 2 points

I haven't tried impossible yet, but beyond meat, at least from what I've tried at Carl's Jr., is actually pretty good. I didn't realize that beyond meat was pea protein. I am generally fine with soy but not so good with peas (talking about my stomach), yet somehow beyond meat doesn't bother me.

I used to be vegan as it was really good for my health, but after getting married and having two kids, it's quite difficult to maintain that kind of nutrition. Having alternatives to meat that is fast and easy to prepare, especially if it keeps well in the fridge, is definitely of big benefit to me. The only problem I have with it right now is that it actually costs more than real beef. Two 4oz patties is $6, so it comes out to $12 per pound. Ugh...

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Meshify C Fans"

  • 4 days ago
  • 1 point

It depends on where you are going to put those top exhaust fans. Since you've got an air tower cooler, you want the fresh air from the intake to reach your CPU cooler. If you have a top exhaust before the CPU cooler, it's just going to exhaust that fresh air. There are some instances in which too many fans, even if configured properly for air flow, will be detrimental in regards to thermals. Also, the more fans you add on top of maybe two intake and one exhaust, the greater your diminishing returns as far as temperatures versus cost of extra fans.

If you'd like some examples and actual test data, check out Gamers Nexus on youtube. They lots of videos on thermal performance for one fan vs. two fans vs. three fans and even a video on when you can actually have too many fans. Also Linus Tech Tips has at least a couple of videos on that as well.

Just something to add: if you have something like a 360mm AIO, then it's more than likely that you will have your entire case full of fans. In a situation like that, it's fine as you will need all of that air flow. If your 360mm radiator is set to exhaust, you definitely need at least two, if not three fans providing intake, and if your 360mm radiator is set as intake, you obviously want at least two fans exhausting all of the heat from the radiator and your video card.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Fresh restart to computer questions"

  • 4 days ago
  • 1 point

The best way is to back up everything you have on an external drive and do a full reinstall of Windows. The steps are simple: 1) back up your files; 2) insert your USB drive with the Windows installer and restart your system; 3) go into your BIOS and manually reboot with the USB drive as priority.

When you go through the installer, it will let you delete your partitions and format/reinstall a fresh copy of Windows. That is definitely the best way to do a clean install.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "I think I rather be around my pet dog over my baby niece."

  • 4 days ago
  • 2 points

Not a degenerate, just honest. I have two boys. When we had our first son, while I love him to death, I thought that he was extremely loud and obnoxious as a baby (now, as a four year old, he is just so precious to me). Among parents, there is a belief that if you have a loud baby, the next one will be quiet. Well, turns out that our first boy was the quiet one.

Parenting is the thankless job that requires a huge sacrifice. My wife, who prefers to work, has had to stay home for the last four years. She hopes to start working later this year when our second boy turns one and she no longer has to breast feed. The toll that this has taken on my wife's patience, well, she has definitely changed since we first met. She loves our children, but eventually she would love to have her time back. And I think that's the heart of the matter here. We all value our time, but when it comes to babies, our time, our desires, our dreams, all be damned. The kid comes first because they are totally innocent and need us.

As long as you are honest about what you want and what you can and can't give up, and obviously make the right choice when it comes down to having kids or not, then you are fine. The only degenerates are the parents who have kid after kid after kid and don't give a **** about them. I've seen my fair share of them and can only feel sorry for the children.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Bench Test with Water Cooler"

  • 4 days ago
  • 1 point

Just have it propped up against something to maintain some air flow and it should be fine. If you want to make sure no air gets trapped in the loop while testing, make sure the tubes are oriented coming out the bottom of the radiator rather than the top.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "M.2 PCIe 4.0 Heat Sink"

  • 4 days ago
  • 1 point

Yes, it'll be fine.

Comment reply on polyfruitism's Completed Build: Sunset Overdrive

  • 5 days ago
  • 1 point

Beautiful custom lighting profile. Nice runs as well.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Best watercooling bundle"

  • 5 days ago
  • 1 point

The kits have the advantage of having everything you need as a beginner so that you don't forget to purchase something and not have a working loop, but as far as price, I don't think they are discounted over individual parts. It looks like there are both hard tube and soft tube kits for TT, and they have great parts. EK only has soft tube kits, but they are also very respectable with quality parts.

Personally, I want to try out the Corsair Hydro X series, mostly because I want to use it with the iCUE software. Also, I prefer clear over pastel coolant, and it'll play nicely with the rest of the Corsair RGB in my system.

In any case, whoever you choose for parts, don't expect any "great" prices as custom loops are expensive. In general, it's best served for those who have already built a system that can't really be upgraded much further (if at all), such as a 9900k/3900x and 2080 Ti. I guess if you are simply going for aesthetics though, TT water blocks and Riing Trio fans look really great.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "My Graphics card isn't working, (am new to pc building)"

  • 5 days ago
  • 1 point

Your system was originally configured with an integrated GPU. You have to go into BIOS and change it to your graphics cards. I've never had to go that myself so hopefully someone here will be able to help you if you aren't sure with that. Or try looking it up.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Ryzen 7 Prime Day Build..Worth?"

  • 6 days ago
  • 2 points

Bad motherboards have crappy VRMs or bad memory support, or a bad BIOS. VRMs are voltage regulators that supply power to your CPU (they lower the voltage from the PSU to the CPU). Bad VRMs will overheat and cause you to lose performance from your CPU (really bad if you paid like $500 for a 9900k but are only getting 8700k like performance). Unless you have a decent knowledge of electrical components, it's really best to just check motherboard reviews from sites or youtube channels like Gamers Nexus or Hardware Unboxed. There's also a really smart motherboard enthusiast known as buildzoid who frequents Gamers Nexus and has his own channel (Actually Hardcore Overclocking), but his videos are quite long. He is very knowledgeable though and if you are interested, he goes really in depth on motherboards. After a few of his videos, you will probably feel a lot more comfortable in choosing a good one.

In all honesty, I pretty much rely on buildzoid, Gamers Nexus, and Hardware Unboxed for motherboard reviews before buying any motherboard. As for your second option, it depends on which B450 board you get. The best, at least according to buildzoid, for B450s are MSI: B450 Tomahawk, B450 Gaming Pro Carbon AC. There were a couple other MSI boards but I think they are harder to find now. As for the 16GB DDR4, it depends on the speed. If it is DDR4-3200, that's a good price to performance spot for memory. Also, that case is incorrectly listed. It's micro ATX (mATX) which is slightly smaller than the standard ATX, or mini ITX which is the smallest form factor. MiniATX doesn't really exist, so whoever listed that... don't trust them.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Ryzen 7 Prime Day Build..Worth?"

  • 6 days ago
  • 2 points

No, if you can get yourself to do a bit of research regarding parts and prices and spend a bit of time learning how to build it yourself, you can make something better for that price. If you just want something now, well, I would look for better elsewhere as that's not really a good price. Prebuilts are almost always going to come with crap motherboards and crap power supplies as those are the most underappreciated or misunderstood parts, and its easy to cut costs by using cheaper ones. Also, you can find great deals on storage nowadays, so you can go all SSD on your storage for pretty cheap.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "2080 or wait for Super"

  • 6 days ago
  • 1 point

Well, only you can answer that question for yourself. For me, the answer was an obvious yes, but it's because I have a 3440x1440 100hz monitor and want to be able to max its capabilities (similar performance requirement of 4k 60fps). Also, real time ray tracing is really taxing on performance, so if you really want to keep those frames up while turning it on, having the maximum possible headroom is best (if you can afford it). Again, it just depends on which you prefer. When you go that high up in graphics cards tiers, at least for me, you are probably concerning yourself more about performance than price (otherwise you'd stay around the 2070 Super range).

Comment reply on Forum Topic "2080 or wait for Super"

  • 6 days ago
  • 1 point

Why would it be too late to catch price drops? Do you think they will sell out or go back up? They will definitely not go back up as the performance of the 2080 super will be better for the same price. As for selling out, I wouldn't worry about that as I'd rather just get a 2080 super.

It's really dependent on which you prefer: more performance or save some money. IMO if you are already spending this much on a video card, you may as well go for performance since you are not likely to upgrade for a long time afterwards. I was considering a 2080 a few months ago and just decided to go with the 2080 Ti since I won't upgrade for a long time.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "RGB FANS!"

  • 6 days ago
  • 2 points

Corsair's LL RGB fans look great and work very well in Corsair's iCUE software, but the airflow isn't that great. The ML120 Pro fans are better, but only the ones that come with the H100i RGB Platinum AIOs. Those ones spin up to 2400 RPM, but the regular ones that you purchase only go up to 1600 RPM.

Thermaltake also has really nice RGB fans, they are called the Riing Trio 12 RGB. They look as good if not better than the Corsair fans, but they are really expensive (even more so than Corsair's). The LED ring can be seen from the rear and side and they are controllable through phone apps or even Alexa. As for airflow, they are pretty similar to Corsair's LL fans.

Cooler Master also has some good RGB fans. They even have fans that are connected to each other in a single 240mm or 360mm frame so that you have less wires. I'm not sure about the airflow, but the price is definitely cheaper than Corsair or TT. Can't speak for Fractal, Deepcool, or upHere as I haven't really looked at their stuff.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Do you know?"

  • 6 days ago
  • 2 points

It's in Cyrillic so probably Russian (though Russian isn't the only language to use the Cyrillic alphabet, it is the most common). I can read it, but I'm not familiar with the artist or song title.

Song: Rock 6 (Person in the photo) Artist: Cat Baloo Album: Fireplace

I dunno if you'll actually find anything with this, but hope it helps anyway. Good luck.

Oh, my wife is Russian, maybe I can ask her after work tonight.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "H700 fans"

  • 9 days ago
  • 1 point

Again, that doesn't mean less air moving overall as you mentioned earlier. Air is rushing in to relieve the lower pressure which means air is still flowing. The only way you have less air flow is if you close off any openings entirely. And I didn't imply that the warmer air from the radiator was bad by any means, but it still does contribute to higher GPU thermals. For my build which included the X72 cooling a 9900k and a 2080 Ti, a front mounted rad had my video card peaking at 72C. Mounted above, the video card stayed below 65C. In general, you get more performance increase from lower GPU temps than CPU temps, so that's why I generally prefer a top mounted rad.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "H700 fans"

  • 9 days ago
  • 1 point

Negative pressure doesn't mean less air moving through the case. It means that the negative pressure inside the case wants to be equalized by drawing air through every available opening in the case, which includes through the PCIe slots which unfortunately aren't dust filtered. This means that there will be slightly more dust buildup in the case, but nothing that a simple dusting every month or so won't fix. Negative pressure is actually good for the video card as it will have access to the cooler ambient air from behind the case as opposed to the slightly warmer air coming from the front mounted radiator.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Upgrade to Watercooling OR Upgrade to 2070 Super"

  • 9 days ago
  • 1 point

No problem and good luck! :) Also, at 1080p, I'm almost positive that the 2070 Super will deliver real time ray tracing at above 60fps for MW.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Upgrade to Watercooling OR Upgrade to 2070 Super"

  • 9 days ago
  • 1 point

A full custom loop with GPU and CPU block, radiators, pump/res, etc. for $250? Is it used? You should really check for corrosion. That is really risky. It may sound like a crazy deal, but that is extremely fishy to me. I would be really careful if I were you. Custom loop parts are expensive for a reason. Cheap parts can damage your loop and system. I mean, if you've done custom loops before and know what you are doing, fine, but if you are new to it, you really need to do a lot more research before you buy a cheap custom loop. Or is that the EK custom loop kit? If it's new, ok, it's a soft tube kit that is a pretty good introduction to custom water cooling. But IMO still not worth it unless you get a better video card first.

So it's real time ray tracing, and it's special effects like ray traced reflections (it's heavily advertised in Battlefield 5 and the upcoming game Control), or global illumination as seen in Metro Exodus, or ray traced shadows as seen in Shadow of the Tomb Raider. To see the difference from traditional lighting methods (rasterization), you should just check out videos on youtube. Basically, rasterization uses tricks to simulate real lighting whereas real time ray tracing is actually rendering the lighting like you would see in real life. Videos showing Metro Exodus on youtube comparing the effects really do the best job at showing the difference. Also, the reflections for Control are stunning (nvidia has a short video on youtube that shows it, looks incredible).

For #2, if you want to run real time ray traced effects for the upcoming MW at 1080p, the 2070 Super is probably your best bet (at least as far as the minimum). You might be able to get away with the 2060 Super, but we really don't know exactly what the system requirements will be for the game since it's still a year away. I would opt for a better card at a slightly higher price to give you some headroom, and also to allow you to fully max the settings and keep a locked 60fps. Non RTX cards like the GTX 1080 or 1080 Ti will have a lot of trouble with ray tracing as they don't have the dedicated ray tracing cores like the RTX cards have built into them.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "H700 fans"

  • 9 days ago
  • 1 point

Very similar to a previous build I had. The H700 case fans are definitely adequate for the case and it does have decent enough air flow. I had a 9900k and 2080 Ti in the H700 with the default case fans and X72 Kraken cooler and it was honestly great.

You don't need to purchase any additional fans, and two 140mm fans are not better than three 120mm fans. While 140mm fans are generally more efficient at moving at air lower RPM than 120mm fans, going down to two fans from three pretty much negates that advantage.

As for the X72 fans, they are Aer P radiator fans, and they are quite good. I wouldn't recommend replacing them as not only are they already good enough, but you may run into fan control issues when plugging them into the X72's fan plugs. The way that water cooling works is that the fan speeds are based on the liquid temp, so plugging the fans into the X72's pump will allow it to regulate the fan speeds accordingly. If you use another manufacturer's PWM fans (such as be quiet! Silent Wings fans, they are notorious for not playing nicely with other PWM fans, I have tried this myself), you won't be able to control the fan speeds and thus will not have optimal use of your cooler.

If you are set on replacing the case fans (do not replace the X72 fans), you could go for noctua fans as they are generally very good in noise to performance. They are pretty expensive though. Be Quiet Silent Wings or Pure Wings fans are also very good, but I would recommend the non high speed versions, and maybe even the 3 pin DC instead of the 4 pin PWM (I've had the high speed fans go wonky on me and spin up to max and slow down for no reason... noisy, creepy, and annoying). If you want RGB, Thermaltake Riing or Corsair LL120 RGB fans are really nice, but super expensive.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Upgrade to Watercooling OR Upgrade to 2070 Super"

  • 9 days ago
  • 1 point

Well, it is going to support real time ray tracing, so if you want that, you will definitely need to upgrade your video card. Really, it depends on your preferred graphics settings. If you turn down anti aliasing, you can gain a lot of performance. While it will likely be pretty taxing at maxed settings, you will still probably be able to achieve 60fps at 1080p if you tweak your settings. Adding a custom loop to your system is likely not going to add much, if any performance.

Also, it is a LOT more expensive than a 2070 Super. That card will cost you $500 for the reference version, maybe $550-$575 for an overbuilt AIB partner card with a good cooler on it. A custom loop with a D5 pump/res, CPU block, GPU block, radiator, fittings, 90 degree adapters (if any), tubes, drain valve (should get one for maintenance), coolant, and tube bending kit (tube cutter or saw, silicone tube insert for bending, heat gun, reamer) will set you back around $1000 after tax. It's also risky unless you do a lot of research first. I've spent at least 5 hours watching different tutorial videos and at least another 5 reading articles on EK's website. Now I'm feeling pretty comfortable with the idea of building my own custom loop, and that's only because I spent so much money on my system that I can't really upgrade it anymore (9900k and 2080 Ti).

So I would say to skip on the water cooling until you have parts that would benefit a lot more from overclocking and just get a better video card for cheaper. For under $900, you can get the upcoming 2080 super (an AIB partner card as the reference version will be cheaper). Definitely upgrade your video card first.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "First Build questions"

  • 9 days ago
  • 2 points

Running all games at max settings is very taxing, even for the very best systems. You should first of all learn how to optimize settings as running games on max just for the sake of maxing is rather pointless. One example is running games with max anti aliasing at 4k since at that resolution, you would only need like 2x SMAA. Full anti aliasing post processing taxes even the 2080 Ti (which I have). I'd recommend watching some videos on youtube to learn how to tweak your graphics settings (Jayztwocents has a great video on how each setting will affect your in game performance).

Also, you should probably target a specific monitor and build your system around that target resolution and refresh rate (frame rates). For instance, I got the Alienware AW3418DW which is a 3440x1440 monitor with 100hz refresh rate. So my target resolution is 3440x1440 and my target frames is 100 frames per second. At high to max settings, the only card that can handle that is the 2080 Ti. With features like real time ray tracing on, I'm down to 60fps or less.

For your main questions: 1) 2080 Ti but it's a lot more expensive; 2) i7-9700k is pretty much as good as an i9-9900k for gaming, just cheaper; 3) you'll be in over your head for custom loop solutions, but an AIO is fine as long as the case you are getting will support mounting the appropriate size radiator (shouldn't take more than a few minutes of research); 4) don't neglect cable management - I stuffed everything into the back side panel and I dunno if something unplugged or what because my system wouldn't boot properly. After calming from my panic and then just managing the cables, everything turned on fine.

To add a bit more to #4, really make sure you take some time to research which parts are best for the money you are spending and the target performance that you are trying to achieve. Some parts are grossly overpriced and generally not worth it unless you are swimming in cash. With a $2000 budget and wanting max performance and RGB, I think you won't be able to do it unless you spend a lot of time looking for deals. My system runs everything maxed at my target resolution but generally under my target frames. I also have a ton of RGB, but I spent around $3500, and that's not including the monitor or peripherals. If you are only going for 1080p @ 60hz (1920x1080 resolution and 60fps), you could probably do with an RTX 2070 Super and i7-9700k. That would save you a ton of money over the 9900k and 2080 Ti which is what I have.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Kraken X72 + i9 9900k overclock thermals?"

  • 9 days ago
  • 1 point

Yeah, that is what I would do if I had the O11 case. If you are just gaming, 5GHz will be easy to maintain even with the silent fan profile in that case. Definitely nothing to worry about.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Kraken X72 + i9 9900k overclock thermals?"

  • 9 days ago
  • 1 point

If mounted on the front of a case as intake, it can handle 5.1GHz at 1.32v and keep it under 80C for synthetic loads. For gaming, it shouldn't surpass 75C (average 65C). If mounted on the top of a case with something like a 2080 Ti dumping heat above, add around 8C to the above temps. This is going with the Silent fan profile in CAM. I used Hydronaut as my paste. The X72 is probably the best 360mm AIO that I've tested and one of the best performing AIOs overall. The stock fans are more than adequate and the six year warranty is unbeatable. I'm just not a huge fan of CAM, but if you just use guest mode, you can get the full functionality of your product without having to create an account or log in and transmit data to NZXT.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "$1200 strix 2080ti. Buy now or wait for Monday ?"

  • 10 days ago
  • 2 points

No problem, enjoy!

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Case Recommendations"

  • 10 days ago
  • 1 point

Looks like Newegg is the only one that has it in stock under your budget price. As long as you can get it at that price, sure, it's a good deal with those included fans.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Some discussion about Intel's future"

  • 10 days ago
  • 1 point

What about consoles though? AMD is supplying both PS5 and Xbox. Is that not a decent market as well?

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Case help"

  • 10 days ago
  • 2 points

Really? I've seen plenty of reviews and it's fine. Maybe if you were sticking in a 9900k and 2080 Ti, it might get a bit toasty, but you aren't so you are definitely fine. I would check out at least five different reviews before listening to whoever is telling you it has bad air flow.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Case Recommendations"

  • 10 days ago
  • 1 point

You don't care about aesthetics but it must not look bad? You gotta pick one here :P

In any case, the NZXT H500 (or H510 refresh if you can wait a week or two for the release) is pretty good as well. Looks good, pretty decent air flow, great cable management, comes in black, and you can generally find one for around $70-$80 depending on sales.

Unless you are overclocking some high powered parts, you don't really need crazy air flow and the H500 would definitely be enough.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Rtx 2080 Ti Aorus Waterforce and case"

  • 10 days ago
  • 1 point

As already mentioned, he is saying that the 240mm AIO won't reach the front panel for mounting. Looks like he had a 360mm AIO (the H150i Pro) installed on the top of the case. He had to move his 360mm AIO to the front and then was able to install the 2080 Ti's 240mm AIO on the top of the case.

For you, you've got an air cooler so you don't have to worry about an AIO being installed on top and conflicting with your 2080 Ti's AIO. He's just saying that you'll likely have to install it on top if you thought to install it on the front. And yes, based on what I've seen with this case's pictures, the front panel is pretty far from the front of the motherboard. Looks pretty spacious and very friendly for a custom loop.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "$1200 strix 2080ti. Buy now or wait for Monday ?"

  • 10 days ago
  • 2 points

Amazon Prime day is unlikely to give many, if any, discounts on computer parts. They mainly use it for their own products, like Alexa or Fire tablets or whatever else they produce.

As for Newegg, well, if that promo code doesn't expire by Monday, just wait I suppose. If it will expire soon, well, it's only a $20 promo code so it's up to you. That's a pretty great price on that card though. It's never been that low before so it's already a good deal (uh, I mean with regards to the original $1400 price), promo code or no.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Which X570?"

  • 12 days ago
  • 1 point

Looks like ASUS Prime X570-P or Gigabyte X570 Gaming X. Both are $169 and have two M.2 slots. The Gigabyte board comes with a heat spreader for one of them as well. I can't speak for them being "good" as I haven't really seen many reviews on X570s yet. Maybe wait for some reviews or go with a different chipset?

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