Lol. Cable management in my rig is a jungle also. I'd say get your build finalized, then tidy up the cables. It would suck to add something and do the cable management again.
Drop by my build and you can see how mine looks without the shroud. I think you can run a decent size reservoir with the shroud in place. You just can't run a huge reservoir. Definitely pros and cons to each though. Shroud makes it easy to mount a tube reservoir.
Build looks clean! I really like the way you set up your room. That's pretty awesome!
DDR4 wasn't supported by the the 4th Gen Intel CPUs. 8GB is more than plenty. Memory was super cheap at the time and each pair was like $90.
No RAID. One drive was the OS drive. The other two are storage drives. I guess I could have opted to RAID, but I can't think of any reason I would need the redundancy.
You are having trouble with the RGB on the push/pull fans on the radiator? Check those fans to see if you have another connector for RGB. Use that connector to plug into your HUE controller.
I was able to get 5.0ghz on a custom loop. Swing by my build for more info. I did delid though. It's not hard as long as you have all the right tools!
I feel like the price on the parts list is never what people pay. I think it's simply a guideline. You never know... sometimes a card is bought second hand or whatever.
At $400, you can totally get something better than a reference GTX 1070.
Nice build! Looks awesome! I am a huge fan of NZXT's minimalist style. I have the S340 on a previous build, and was looking at the H500i, but ultimately decided on the H700i because I wanted all that space. Super clean! I know how you feel about the cable management. I think once you finalize your set-up, you can go in there with a ton of cable ties and make the back side super clean!
Any plans to overclock? Delid? Liquid metal?
Wow! Your build looks gorgeous!
I feel like your temperatures are pretty solid. You might be able to shave a few degrees on the CPU with a delid and liquid metal. Might look at the Rockit88 upgraded IHS also. Probably good for a few degrees. Honestly, even at 70 C, your CPU is pretty good. Thermal limit on the 8600K is 100 C, so you are still pretty far off from throttling.
In regards to GPUs... I feel like 72 C is still okay. I think the key to keeping GPUs cool is having good airflow in the case and feeding the fans with nice cool air. Given your form factor, I can imagine it be a little trickier to keep cool.
That's awesome! Great stuff! I think everyone's situation is a little different and it's nice to see people stretching the dollar. A good build doesn't have to be about how much money you spend.
I bet you your pictures don't really do your rig justice. I bet it looks a lot better in person. Maybe spend an afternoon, stage your computer, and get a friend with a nice camera to take some killer pics of it!
Thanks! It's not super sexy like hard tube is, but was super easy to work with. Got some things in the mail to add onto the loop. Looking to watercool the 1070 as well as add another radiator and a drain plug. This thing just keeps becoming a bigger money pit! Lol.
i7-8700K is going to last you for awhile. At least I think so. For gaming, the CPU doesn't really make that huge of an impact. It's really the graphic card. Also... You really have to be using a high-resolution (like 2K or 4K display) to really start taxing most modern cards. No point in needing a high performance card if your monitor can't output that hight.
If you are doing content creation like Photoshop or video editing, the CPU does make a huge difference.
I figure for most of us average folks, we are on a budget and we really stretch the dollar. For me, I try to get the best bang by buying open box, or taking advantage of sales, even if you have to be without something for a little while.
Every time I see an awesome build in a Lian-Li PC-011 Dyanmic, I regret not going that direction. Love the case. I think what did it in for me was I saved $70 on buying an open box NZXT H700i. If I had to do it over and I had to choose between both new, I am almost certain that I would have gone the Lian-Li route.
I forget what the comment was exactly. I think it was something like... "You spent $3,000 on this rig and the best you could do was __." The comment wasn't in the spirit of PC building so people said stuff.
Pricing for cards over the last two years have been crazy, especially with Bitcoin mining. I remember buying my ASUS GTX 1070 Strix for like $450. Then it skyrocketed to like $900, and now it is finally back down.
Being so close to the next-gen cards, it's hard to justify buying a 10 series card unless you are getting a steal for it. And recycling it from a previous build does't cost you anything. Lol.
Good looking build! I really like the way that you put together the information on your build. The details are really helpful to those who are looking to build a system. It is good to see people sharing what works and doesn't work.
I think you have a solid build. I just pieced together my system about a month ago and a lot of building your own system is the journey. It's the trial and error. It's the building process. It's the trying to make everything fit. Etc.
I think the weak point is the GTX1060, but to be perfectly honest, it's fine. It's probably plenty functional. You might not be able to drive crazy details or higher resolutions, but... it's plenty fine for average folks. I had a GTX 960 before my current 1070 and that was more than enough for my needs at the time. Worst case scenario is that if you need more GPU power, you can always swap this out. I think this way is better than the other. You could totally get a GTX 1080Ti and never take full advantage of it.
I think when it comes to choosing parts, most of us have some type of budget. I think it is fine to cut corners in some places while splurging in others as long as we are realistic about our expectations.
I don't think you made a bad decision with going with a 1060. It gives you some flexibility to get the powerhouse card you want at a later date. Let's just say you unload the card at a later date for $150. You didn't take that big of a hit. I think it would be better than the opposite where you dropped $500-600 on a 1070TI or 1080 and then find out about the RTX series release.
I am sure you can somehow repurpose the 1060 and be happy with the decision. Maybe build a small form factor LAN computer or... gift it to family/SO or something.
Thanks! Appreciate it! Got some things in mail. Once I get that all together, I'll ask a friend to help with taking some nice pictures of the build!
So hot! I really like that case. Sometimes, I wish I went the Lian Li route instead.
Lets see if I can help.
In regards to the GPU, sagging is okay. It's pretty common. If the sag is something that drives you crazy, maybe find something discreet (like a clear tube) that you can use to prop the rear of the GPU card up.
In regards to the fan's RGB, it looks like you only got the fans. You'll need the Hue+ controller to control the RGB on them. Looks like there's two connections on the fan. One is the 3 or 4 pin connector which controls the mechanical functions. The other connection is for the RGB connector to plug into.
In regards to the two different pairs of memory sticks. It's generally best practice to keep your memory sticks uniform. You might be able to run different pairs, but whether they'll play nice or not is up in the air. If they are two different part numbers, there's probably something different about them. My guess is that one will have different latency timing than the other.
In regards to the Kraken X52, looks like some people are encountering the same issue. Might be worth Googling and seeing. Obviously, you can rotate it, but the NZXT logo will not be oriented correctly. However... people have said in the CAM software that you can turn off the logo and only display the colored rings.
He's probably recycling the GTX 1070 from a previous build. That's what I ended up doing in my build. No point trying to buy a new video card given the RTX 20 series was just released. Not to mention, you could find an ASUS GTX 1070Ti for less and an ASUS GTX 1080 for a little more.
Rig looks great! I really like that case. I was kind of in the air between that and the case (NZXT H700i) I eventually went with.
Once you settle down on your final set-up and clean up your case a little bit, it is really going to look awesome!
I feel like you are in pretty good shape. You would get a little more cooling ability going from 240 to 280, but I think it would be diminishing returns. I think the general rule of thumb is 2x 120mm per an overclocked component.
According to EKWB's configuration tool, the cooling ability of the 240 and 280 slim are 283 watts and 400 watts respectively (difference is 117 watts).
I'd say take a look into delidding and liquid metal. And the Rockit IHS might be worth a few degrees. Between all three, it could be good for 10-15 C or more. Might not cost you anything if you have a friend that has a delid kit. Not to mention, you'll at least know that the poopy TIM isn't holding you back.
If you don't feel confident, or... you'll end up buying all the tools and materials, you might check out Silicon Lottery's delid service. I think base cost is $45 and $20 more if you want bin frequency testing. That's the cost of your tools and materials right there. $45 for the tool, $15 for liquid metal. Shipping and other misc costs.
Okay! That's kind of makes more sense. Even between various stress tests you'll get different temperatures.
Same reason why I went with soft-tubing also. I think it is a good platform to start off with. You can always change it down the line if you want to make it look sexier. For me... I wanted to have the flexibility of adding/changing things.
Delidding is actually super easy if you have the right tools! You can also send it to Silicon Lottery to do it!
What type of temperatures are you getting at full load @ 5.2ghz? I overclocked my delidded/liquid metal 8700k to 5ghz and am at about 70 C at full load.
And... you are running a 360 and a 240 rad in your loop?
I am running an EKWB 360mm rad right now and thinking about adding a 280mm radiator when I add my GPU to the loop.
Sorry about your friend. Great looking build! And it looks like you did something right! I OC'ed my 8700k to 5ghz and am at 70C under full load.
Delidding is actually pretty easy if you have the right tools! There's videos on YouTube if you need some type of tutorial. I'd say... take your time and try to keep things clean. Also... you might want to check out the Rockit IHS. Might be good for a few more degrees!
Are you thinking about delidding and overclocking the CPU??
Sounds like you hit the Silicon Lottery. I am slightly overclocked more and am at about 70 C under full load. Still trying to figure out the ASUS interface though. I feel like my voltage is a little high.
Nice build! I just recently finished (for the time being) my current build. Our rigs are actually pretty similar. Though, I opted to remove the cable shroud thing. For me personally, I think it opens up the interior of the case a little more.
i7-8700K, NZXT H700 case, 970 Evo, etc.
Any details on the CPU/overclocking? I am trying to gauge if my CPU is ballpark. Did you delid and liquid metal? 4.9ghz on all cores?
And custom loop in the H700i can totally be a thing. Maybe take out the cable shroud. Opens up a bunch of space!
Looks great! Did you delid your CPU? Just curious. Trying to see how my CPU compares. Also overclocked to 5ghz, but delidded and used Thermal Grizzly.
Thanks! I ended up getting the H700i because I found a great open-box deal off of Amazon and it ended up being cheaper than the H700.
The three top fans, the rear fan, and two lighting strips (there is one that is attached vertically to the radiator) are controlled by the Smart Controller/CAM software. The controller wasn't a selling point to me, but after using it, I am really impressed. My only complaint is that you need to use NZXT's LED strip, but... honestly... I don't think you need more than the one that comes pre-installed in the case and the extra one that is included. Both are pretty bright.
The CAM software has been really good to me so far. Previous versions... not so much, but the current one has been awesome. Software is easy to use and easy to set-up. It is really easy to set-up the fan curve for the fans attached to the controller, and you can set/store several profiles.
I haven't done the cable tucking yet, but the controller has 3 channels that can each support 3 fans each. It's nice because all the wiring from the fans and controller can done behind the motherboard out-of-view.
Nice build! Just curious, did you delid your CPU? Trying to gauge where I am with my own overclocked CPU on a custom loop.
Nice build! My build is really similar to yours, except I decided to go with the custom loop watercooling. I am curious to see what other people did with the H700.