I play Overwatch on ultra with no problems, I've never looked at what FPS I get, as long as it runs smooth I don't really mind. I don't have Betafield 1, not sure if I am getting it yet.
At some point i'll be picking up an RX 480, but i'm waiting to see what Zen has to offer before I even think about upgrading anything, this build will see me through for a long time yet.
An aftermarket cpu cooler should come with all the parts you need. The H55 for example comes with the AMD and Intel back plates and other fittings, I've never heard of anyone having to buy parts separately. The product description should tell you exactly what's in the box, just double check it's got what you need. They're pretty straightforward to fit too.
Ram speed rarely makes a difference, APU's benefit more from that. As for bottlenecks, yes, in some games you will bottleneck that gpu. Games that require multiple cores and/or are cpu heavy are the ones that will hurt the most.
Unless you plan on upgrading that cpu, enjoy your gpu bottleneck :)
Motherboard? Start with basics before worrying about that. It's highly likely that cpu, in some games, will bottleneck that gpu. A quick search around various forums point that out.
The psu is overkill, you'd be fine on a 600w. There's plenty of good builds on the completed list, you should go through them and get some ideas.
It is a great cpu, with that cooler and at stock speeds it was idling at 8 degrees, after a mission on the division, high settings, it was 34 degrees.
I love the MSI auto overclock in the bios, used that tonight and it put it up to 4.1, idle was 12, although YouTube was running, after gaming tonight on ARK, it was at 36 degrees. I'm going to go for a 4.5 clock at some point.
The gpu was fine too, think the highest I saw it was 56 degrees.
Put a few more pictures up, enjoy!
The reasoning was not flawed at all. Nvidia do indeed stop driver support for older cards a lot quicker than AMD. I can't remember the exact details of which series it was on, but as an example, an nvidia range got 2-3 years of drivers support for one of their series, the AMD equivalent series got 6-7 years support. The GTX 960 will become legacy long before the 380.
The 380 is dx12 ready, can utilise the 4gb, and already out performs the 960 in some cases.
As with new cards and new games, both companies release drivers, and then more, this is the way it's always been, things get fixed eventually. No flawed reasoning, the 380 will be around for a long time, the 960 will be forgotten about in a year or so.
Fair enough, the cooler should be simple enough, but I'm assuming you've never done it before, I'd watch a video and do it along with that, can't go wrong.
Can't see what issues you could have with the cpu cooler, but there are plenty of guides on YouTube you can watch.
Only problem I see is the 760 chipset motherboard, but that's only if you plan to overclock, those aren't the best boards to overclock with, a 970 chipset would have been more ideal.
The cpu is old, sure, but for the price it's a great processor with great overclocking potential. More games are starting to like more cores, the 6300 will serve you well for a long time, especially when it's overclocked.
Oh dear, save the fanboy stuff for fanboy threads, this is purely a completed build.
For thought though, my last card was amd, and so is this one, I've yet to encounter these mythical driver issues.
I will soon :)
They told me to take off the fan grill, push down firmly in the middle of the fan, then put it back in the case upside down.
I didn't send it back because in all honesty I just couldn't be bothered undoing all the cable management, it's not modular so it's a bit of a drag. It's a mini itx so it was fiddly enough. I heard they send you a replacement unit so you're not without, I didn't see the point if another would potentially do the same. Doesn't effect performance, and since its been upside down it's hugely better.
I have the corsair 250d, and there's a dust filter under where the psu sits, which is now pointless as my fan is now directly below the motherboard.
You got lucky :P
I have a Cx, I took the reviews with a pinch of salt, complaints are obviously easier to find than praise. Within a month the noise started, corsair gave me the "fix" still does it now and again but it'll be fine, bad bearing in the fan I guess.
Overclocking within its claimed capabilities shouldn't be a problem, but agreed, it shouldn't be used for heavy overclocking or mid-high end gaming rigs. It's CWT that make them, with cheap parts, very cheap, and thin gauge wiring.
The noise they make is the first sign of poor quality, it might not happen straight away, but it will, maybe a month, maybe a few months, but in the end you'll get the horrible grinding, whining, vibrations and noise, it's a VERY common problem, corsair themselves tell you to push the middle of the fan in, and put it back in your case with the fan facing up, which in most cases means it pulls air through the case, not from outside, mix that with cheap parts inside the psu and you'll get problems eventually.
They are made for office rigs or low end gaming, if your putting high specs into your pc, the cx should be avoided if possible. The XFX TS series is a good alternative, those are made by seasonic, the XFX XT range is also suitable, although it is only designed by seasonic, not built by them, there is at least a very good brand behind the design. These would suit anything up to high end gaming rigs. After that, anyone making a high end rig, will get a high end supply.
spoken like a true green fanboy!
Firstly, to stay on topic, the gtx 960 4gb was a pointless card, yet the green side still fell for it, the 380 4gb is the better card now and will be for a lot longer. There are indeed a lot of nvidia cards that are clearly better than their supposed AMD equivalent, but AMD also have their own good performers, and their price/£ is hugely superior.
The whole heat thing with AMD is a complete myth, I know a lot of people with AMD cards, non of them run hot at any point, this is purely something from the olden days, something nvidia fanboys have clung too, just to secure their own beliefs. If people do, it's more often than not a case of people not knowing or thinking about the airflow in their case. You'll always have to buy the right wattage for a computer, what a silly point to make.
They were indeed defeated for this gen, they made bad judgments and paid the price, since then, however, they've restructured, reinvested, and hired the guy who was responsible for ATI back in the day, when they were on top. The next gen should be interesting, AMD will hopefully get a bigger slice of the market, afterall, the market actually needs them. Your "AMD is finished" brain fart shows a lack of intelligence. The market NEED AMD to be in it, if they fold and are not snapped up, it will be nvidia and Intel left to do what they want, and you can guarantee they'll put their prices up massively, AMD keep them grounded, you should probably think of likely scenarios before making puerile statements, spud.
Actually no, like I said, the Internet is full if negativity towards that series, even without tom's tier list there's enough info out there to shed light on that series.
Doesn't hurt to do simple research, not just look at £££
Semi accurate, there is proven benefits to dual channel, more so outside of gaming, most people who have a gaming PC do use them for other things, the benefit is slim but worth it. You also have the argument that if one stick fails, you at least have another to keep you going until you can replace it.
In regards to the Cx/cxm series, the Internet is full of negative reviews. They're made on the cheap, fine for light use or home office types, but for gaming and overclocking they should be avoided, they're cheap, weak and use thin gauge wiring, that's why they are cheap, there are better out there.
Yeah, what he said, it's supposed to increase performance/be 10-15% faster in dual config.
Give it time, and wait for the noises. The Cx series are very well known to not exactly fail, but the build quality and fans are terrible. The intake fan will start to get louder. I have a Cx series, and Corsair themselves told me to push the fan back in firmly and put it back in the case upside down.
I won't be getting a Corsair psu again, which is a shame as I like their other products.
I see, makes sense, it might have been a better idea to go down to 8gb ram and save around £47 there to put towards the gpu, then just buy more ram in the future, there really isn't much need for 16gb ram just yet, and ram is cheap enough to replace, now you'll end up forking out another £180 or so for a 4gb card in the future, just a thought.
Makes no sense, you chose a terrible psu because there was a budget, so $23 for a psu, yet you spend $30+ on a aftermarket cpu cooler he won't actually need if it's not being overclocked....
Shame you chose that psu, Cx series psu are terrible quality, one of the "last resort" options.
Should have gone for 2x4 ram, not 1x8...
Cx series psu are very weak.
Not trying to start a fanboy debate, but for a budget build an FX 6300 on a 970 chipset motherboard would have made more sense.
Finally someone using the correct chipset! See so many builds for the fx 6300 using a 760, only takes a second to find results for overclocking on a 760 isn't good, the 970 is a good choice.
That psu is a bit overkill though, you'd never need 750w, 600 would have been fine.
Can't understand why you didn't go for a 4gb R9 380 though, they aren't that much more.
Motherboard choice was terrible, for overclocking the 760 is awful, should have gone for a 970. A bit of research never hurts...
Bad motherboard choice, that socket is terrible for overclocking, should have gone for a 970 not a 760.
I'm going for the gigabyte version, but only to match up the colours to the rest of my build.
From what I've read, the 380 is the obvious choice. I'll do a quick run through.
The 960 can't utilise the 4gb, it can't handle the settings needed to get close to using anywhere near 4gb, if anyone is looking for a 4gb card on a budget, the 960 should be avoided.
For future proofing, whilst the two cards are fairly even now, when dx12 is more present, the 380 will pull away hugely from the 960.
Driver support is also an issue, for example, nvidia fan boys will make all these driver claims, none of which I've ever encountered and I've been using amd a while. Gpu support on the amd side is better too. Nvidia 700 series are considered legacy and are no longer supported, 2 years of drivers they got iirc. Compare that to the amd 5000 series which I believe got 5+ years of support.
The 380 is a better card, will serve you better in the future, and will not need replacing for 1080p gaming any time soon.
FX 6300 and a R9 270X.
Dual channel the ram (2x4gb).
To run most games on high settings, there is no way he needs anything that powerful. AMD FX 6300 and a R9 270X would more than suffice and would save him about $120 for starters...
If it's not for anything too strenuous, you could probably lower pretty much everything. We have a rig in our house with an AMD FX 6300 cpu and a R9 270X gpu and it runs anything we throw at it. You could also go for lower priced ram and save a few $.
CPU comparison here: http://cpuboss.com/cpus/Intel-Core-i5-4670-vs-AMD-FX-6300
It says the intel is stronger at stock, but the AMD is unlocked for overclocking (4.78ghz overclocked), has a much higher l2 and l3 cache, and it's much cheaper
The cpu, mobo and gpu choice are fine, my wife has the same cpu and gpu and it's fantastic. Not sure what that guy means by unbalanced, would have been nice for him to actually clarify what he meant.
I would change certain things though.
Firstly, I would change the hdd, the one you chose is 5400rpm and only 8mb cache, try to go for a 7200rpm hdd with a 32mb or 64mb cache. Secondly, unless you were planning on overclocking, you don't need a 1000w psu. You could change the ram too, 2x4gb sticks would be better than 1x8gb stick, but it's not the end of the world if you don't, it would still run games perfectly well.
Unless you get the Black Edition, I am certain.
True, but there is very little difference between them, see: http://cpuboss.com/cpus/AMD-Athlon-X4-760K-vs-AMD-Athlon-X4-750k
If people do wish to have some overclocking option, the 750k is unlocked, the 760k isn't. There is wiggle room in the build for sure, just depends what people want. I'd potentially overclock in the future, the small case has room for a H100i.