Depending on the dell specs you could just throw the 750ti in there and call it good?
Iirc the reviews around time of release the x99 platform offers basically zero gaming performance increase over a 1150 i7.
Transcend 370 ssd has substantially better real world performance as per the recent anandtech review - http://www.anandtech.com/show/8792/transcend-ssd370-128gb-256gb-512gb-review/3
Evga g2 PSU is pretty good but considering your budget i would want nothing but the absolute best, which imo is seasonics x series, the gold rated ones actually pass the platinum spec under most loads iirc. 650w example review - http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=Story&reid=332
Don't get fixated on this exact build, 7 months is a long time in the PC space.
Sorry about the delay.
Well... you get a cpu cooler in the cpu box that's perfectly fine at stock clock speeds, and as that chip is not overclockable the supplied cooler is fine.
16gig is overkill for a gaming build, useful if you're doing some heavy photoshop/video editing or whatever but gaming improvement over 8gig is pretty much non-existent.
650w is actually a little to high on the watts imo, that's getting close to 3x the estimated maximum load which, and I know this sounds totally counter intuitive, will actually be hurting your efficiency vs a lower watt unit.
Stock cooler + 8gig + 550w psu lets you take a big jump up gpu wise which is gonna have a much greater effect on your gaming performance than those 3 items.
Puts you in the gtx960/amd 285 ballpark
If you take a 960 option that drops the system draw again as nvidia is usually more power efficient than amd cards, estimated wattage for a 960 in the build is 278w so I would prolly drop another 100w off the psu too to bring that closer to the sweet spot.
You'll prolly need to add a couple more fans as that case only comes with one.
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Intel cpus tend to perform better in a bunch of games - http://www.hardwarepal.com/best-cpu-gaming-9-processors-8-games-tested/
Dropped the cpu cooler as the 4150 is a locked processor so the stock fan is fine for it.
Opted for a nice z series mobo which gives you plenty of cpu upgrade options down the road including overclocking (appropriate cpus) and apparently compatibility with intels next wave of cpus.
A separate ssd & hdd costs the same but provides much better speeds (from the ssd anyway) and more storage than the 10k drive.
AMD gpus tend to perform better in a given price bracket but they do usually draw more power.
850w psu is way too high for the builds power draw, I selected a lower watt, but better manufacture, seasonic who make all xfx psus are one of the premier psu makers, gold rated unit that still gives you ~250w to overclock gpu if you wish.
I like a smaller case myself, I think a large tower looks a little empty with 1 gpu and not many drives in it, tho I know other folks prefer the spacious look tho so...
I don't quite understand what you're saying but ok.
Seems a little harsh if they're not trolls, build is not substantially different to others listed.
Why'd I get the downvote?
Here's my suggestions
No reviews I can see for the model number xfx psu but it's made by seasonic who are one of the premier psu manufacturers.
You can also save a few bucks on same spec ram and a few more with a cheaper dvd drive.
Make sure the mobo bios is updated so you can overclock the g3258 for extra performance - https://www.dropbox.com/s/0600jd5wbsathtw/E7817IMS.H30.zip
I'd also change to cheaper (but quicker) ram, and a better quality psu which let's you take a little jump up in gpu power to a 260x with an extra gig of ram which is always useful.
If you don't mind rebates you can get a very nice 550w gold rated psu for the same price as the corsair, it's a rosewill (newegg inhouse brand) unit and I pretty much always recommend seasonic made psus but the higher watt rosewill get's a really nice writeup at jonnyguru (top psu review site) so hopefully the 550w model is up to the same standards - http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=Story&reid=266
550w also gives you plenty of extra capacity to overclock cpu & gpu for a performance bump while the gold rating will be easier on your electricity bill & you get better power to your components so that's a win-win :D
I love having a ssd in my builds but it depends on your budget ofc, this is a very nice performing budget drive if you're interested
I wouldn't count on price drops tbh, black friday & when the parts are superseded is pretty much it.
Fair enough, iirc the last w7 installer i grabbed was ~6gig which is why I mentioned it.
Well Godz covered it already but you just need a regular stick, prolly 8gig minimum to be on the safe side, then you use a program to write the disc image to it, here's the ms page about it - http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/windows-usb-dvd-download-tool
For the cpu you suggest...
For the cpu you suggest...
You uh, might need to point out to me where I mentioned a different cpu (used the same one) :D
Looks very nice overall for the budget, the cpu should be fine for most games (i think, not a PC gamer tbh) and when you do need to upgrade the motherboard is apparently compatible with Intel's next wave of chips so you should have a solid cpu upgrade path for the next 3-4 years or so (without having to go to secondhand).
There's a couple of points i think, you don't need the network card as that's built into the mobo and if you're only going to use the DVD to install windows you could drop it too if you can make a USB install stick for windows, much quicker loading too if you get a USB3 drive :-D
I would put that saved money towards a better PSU, this antec is made by seasonic who are one of the premier PSU manufacturers and it's got better power efficiency which I always think is nice :-D
I don't see a budget so here's a few upgrades :-D
SSDs bring the speed to a system, I'm only running mine on a sata2 connection and I never want to go back to using a regular hard drive for windows, I think they're awesome :-D
A imo nice looking little case without a DVD bay because why not if you don't need one? :-D tho it was the cheapest listed on site for this build it seems less costs more in this situation, yeah thanks PC industry :-\
A gold rated PSU saves you even more on your electricity bill and you get a better quality of power to your components which helps their reliability and life expectancy :-D 15% price promo is gonna run out quickly tho
Use a free program like SlimDrivers to update driver stuff, I've been using it for a few years on various systems and never had an issue with it.
Intel ofc :D
Objective data here - http://www.hardwarepal.com/best-cpu-gaming-9-processors-8-games-tested/
For a gaming focused build the x99 platform doesn't really seem to offer any advantage, maybe a handful of fps over a 4790k in most cases going by this anandtech article - http://www.anandtech.com/show/8426/the-intel-haswell-e-cpu-review-core-i7-5960x-i7-5930k-i7-5820k-tested/6
Same story at bittech.net - http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/2014/09/03/intel-core-i7-5930k-and-core-i7-5820k-revie/7
If you really wanna spend ~3k I'd prolly switch to a 4790k build with a titan x
Also swapped out psu for a high end model (the company that makes that corsair rm is a well known, and not in a good way, budget manufacturer), and a better (iirc the reviews) water loop that's expandable incase they ever bring out a waterblock for the titan x :D Tho the swiftech is sold out at retail so ebay's prolly the best option.
And running all that, whichever build, on a cheap sub 22" monitor... yeah, no.
Had to cost reduce the case & storage options (left the k & m alone tho as i don't know anything about those areas tbh) a little to keep the price slightly under control. (edit. and there's prolly a little more to trim off the price with more economical but still good spec ram and mobo if necessary)
Tho if you wanna get a high overclock on cpu/gpu you might wanna add another ~100w to the psu.
edit. and given the horsepower in the build you could prolly do with a greater than 60hz monitor, but I don't see any 120/144hz that are ips which is what I usually prefer.
OP's already said "I won't be OC'ing", it doesn't get much clearer than that! Not that ocing the intel build is even an option in this example.
There's a jonnyguru interview linked somewhere in the psu subforum where, iirc, he talks about how a good quality psu is perfectly fine running at near maximum load for it's lifespan.
A seasonic psu isn't going to be up to spec? Sure... ... tbh I think you're one of the few posters, if not the first, I've seen ever question seasonics quality, and it's maybe a little ironic that you've recommended a psu brand that they also make... :D
~100w extra watts over site estimate, which considering that's full load & most pcs don't run at full load all the time (the exact opposite would be more common I think), coupled with no oc, seems fine to me tbh.
Looks mostly good :D
An i7 & 16gig is apparently overkill (I know, I know, future proofing :D )for a pure gaming build (useful if recording/streaming gameplay tho) and 1000w psu is way overkill, like way way way overkill, estimated load is 349w so even allowing for a fierce overclock on both cpu & gpu I'd prolly go for something around the 650w range (I usually spec a 550w for an i5/970 build).
Usual recommendation is to get 1 big ssd vs 2 smaller ones, 850 evo 500gig is only $20 more than the 2 combined - http://pcpartpicker.com/part/samsung-internal-hard-drive-mz75e500bam
Intel cpus tend to perform better in a gaming build - http://www.hardwarepal.com/best-cpu-gaming-9-processors-8-games-tested/
500w psu is prolly a little high if anything as you don't plan to overclock, i'd prolly aim for something lower watt but better quality (I've seen some posts/links that seem to recommend avoiding the low end evga psus, didn't read em tho as I usually go with seasonic and the other brands they make).
... like this one :D - http://pcpartpicker.com/part/seasonic-power-supply-ss400etbronze
Yes, very :D
Apart from the video editing bit a ~$300 pos build is perfectly fine for email etc etc. If you're not gaming you don't even need the gpu, cpu has a built in gpu part that's fine for non-gaming tasks.
There's also a little miss match going on with some of the hardware, z series mobo is for overclocking but you can't oc that chip very much as it's not a "k" version, hyper 212 evo is also redundant as the supplied cooler is perfectly fine at stock speeds and as that's all that cpu can do...
I know you tried to preempt this but a 750w psu is waaaay too high imo, I usually spec 550w for an overclocked i5/970 build, but the seasonic x range is super badass tho :D
Yeah I remember you've said that before...
Any links to back that opinion up? :D
I'd like to see a counterpoint to the hardwarepal link in my previous post.
No piracy talk in the forums.
New revision looks like a go to me :D
Maybe check into what chessel says about getting hold of a win key to reduce price a little, I've got no idea about that kinda thing tbh, and as pointed out you can instal it from a usb stick if you don't need the dvd drive for anything else.
I would've, hypothetically, spent the extra buck on some 2400mhz ram - http://pcpartpicker.com/part/gskill-memory-f32400c10d8gtx
You need a k series cpu to be able to get a good oc, adds 20 quid - http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/part/intel-cpu-bx80646i54690k
Sure get the 270x if it's in price range, in theory it should have a little more performance than the 270.
Depends what you're using it for tbh (gaming, workstation etc etc etc).
Seasonic's platinum 400w psu is the only fanless model I know of the top of my head (expensive but super bad *** irrc), I guess there's others?
Newegg says that case is oos btw.
lol yeah something like that...
Looks fine to me, maybe the ram & ssd are a little overpriced but that's about all I can see.
AMD gpus generally perform better for a given similar price point but they are more power hungry so it depends what your priorities are.
IMO the words "cheap" and "psu" should not be used in the same sentence together, the way I think about it is that's the bit that powers all the other bits, after the main performance parts (cpu/gpu) it's what i tend to put the most focus on for a quality part.
Anyway, tbh I was in a rush this morning and totally missed the bit about having a strict budget but now I've had a little time so maybe something like this would be good for you?
z97 mobo is apparently gonna be compatible with intels next gen cpu (due later this year iirc) so in a year or 2 you could drop in an updated k suffix cpu that you could overclock, when you add the 212 evo (or whatever) back in as stock coolers tend to suck for oc'ing.
edit. Oh I changed the psu again :D Antec truepower classic is made by seasonic (like all xfx units) who are one of the premier psu manufacturers, it's almost the same price as the xfx (+1 pound) but the gold rating will save you money on your electricity bill & you get better power to your components which helps their reliability & life expectancy, win-win :D
edit. d'oh! no price for that keyb/mouse combo, but there is for the blue version, weird... - http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/part/cooler-master-keyboard-sgb3010kkmf1us
If that busts your budget I'd prolly drop down a little on the cpu, 4460 makes the total a hair under 710 or a 4370 makes it 690.
Your intel build was way better imo, a 8350 & 750ti is a pretty hefty miss-match, intels just flat out better for a gaming build in most cases - http://www.hardwarepal.com/best-cpu-gaming-9-processors-8-games-tested/
Transcend 370 ssd still beats the mx100 and the corsair psu is still bad...
Reading. Lots and lots of reading.
I use anandtech, tomshardware, jonnyguru, techreport, techpowerup, hardware.info and hardwaresecrets on a weekly basis, but there's plenty of others ofc.
edit. if anyone wants to add any killer sites I've missed please feel free, I'm always looking for new sites to add to my bookmarks :D
If this a gaming build the cpu's a little weak, intel chips generally perform better for gaming, and you don't need 16gig for games either.
Yeah their TPC range is seasonic made as per the realhardx psu database - http://www.realhardtechx.com/index_archivos/Page673.htm
I take it with 750w you wanna oc cpu & gpu? If not you could prolly drop 100w without worrying.
Water cooler is not required as you can't overclock that cpu, supplied cooler will be fine.
840 evo apparently has some issues with re-writing over the same data, or something like that I forget exactly, transcend 370 is a sweet new drive as per the anandtech review.
Z series mobo is not required as that's for overclocking & you can't oc that cpu.
PSU wattage is considerable overkill, to the extent that it'll be operating at reduced efficiency, seasonic (one of the premier psu manufacturers) have a nice 360w gold rated unit that's only ~5 quid more which will be much better for the build all round.
Transcend 370 ssd is a few quid cheaper and considerably better real world performance as per the anandtech review (storagebench2013 metric).
xfx and antec psus are around the same price and much better quality (both made by seasonic, tho not all antecs are), I tend to favour gold rated too as that saves you money in the long run via a cheaper electricity bill & you get better power to your components which helps their reliability & life expectancy.
Quicker ram is available for the same price, and a better psu like horus mentions and I'd call it good.
All xfx psus are made by seasonic who are one of the premier manufacturers.
Copy and paste the "markup" text from the link near the middle of the page above the parts list to get this -
You'll prolly need a few extra case fans as looking at the superbiiz page the case only comes with one.
3840 x 2160 = 8,294,400
1920 x 1080 x 3 = 6,220,800
All cables screws etc should be supplied with either case mobo or psu, tho you might need more sata data cables depending on how many drives you have and how many sata cables come with your mobo.
Like the others say it's not all that difficult, maybe watch a few build videos beforehand tho, newegg, techreport and about a billion others are all on youtube.
It's got a pcie (2.0) slot so any modern card will fit fine, tho newer cards have moved onto 3.0 spec there is, as I understand it (not a pc gamer tbh) minimal if any difference between them for a single card setup.
Nvidia is usually more power efficient than amd so I'd prolly look to a 750ti or 960 depending on budget.
You can get acoustic padding online to help noise reduce any case - http://www.quietpc.com/acousticmaterials
Yeah that's z series so you'll be able to oc k suffix cpus when you upgrade.
Transcends 370 ssd has considerably better real-world performance as per anandtech's storagebench2013 metric
16gig is overkill for a gaming build, unless you're doing some photo/video editing or gameplay recording/streaming 8 is still fine.
Antec (made by seasonic who one of the premier psu manufacturers) 750w gold rated psu is only ~$5 more, that'll help you save on your electricity bill & you get better power to your components which helps their reliability & life expectancy.
If you really wanna oc cpu & gpu you might wanna bump up another 100w, 290x is super power hungry & 750w is likely not enough to get max oc on both.
I like a smaller case myself, full towers are freaking huge and a single gpu system will easily fit into a mid tower or smaller depending on mobo size, I guess that's more a personal aesthetics thing tho.
I would get a seasonic made psu, they do their own plus all xfx some antec and a few others I forget, tho considering the high end nature of the rest of your build I'd prolly get something in the seasonic x range, as per the jonnyguru (top psu review site) write up the gold x range will actually pass the platinum tests in some cases. I dunno if they go up to that wattage, tho tbh I think you'd be perfectly fine with something in the 900-1000w range.
Ah, I didn't realise that about the d14/15 notches... maybe get a cheap water loop to begin with? I've seen em for $40-50 and they definitely have clearance for ram :D
Or maybe check out the swiftech h220x/240x, that's an expandable prebuilt loop made of their custom loop components so it puts you part way to a full wc rig straight away.
Fair enough, I find it's often useful to mention things like that in the OP :D
Water cooled or not there's simply no way you need an excess of nearly 1200w to oc a cpu/gpu, especially ones that are power efficient like intel/nvidia are.
On the upside a x99 5930k & 980 should last a very long time for a gaming build, depending on monitor rez & expected frame rate/graphical bling ofc.
Personally I like a smaller case than that but that's more of a personal aesthetics things I guess.
As you're thinking about wc'ing the cpu too I'd prolly be inclined to not drop that much on an air cooler, d14 is still super badass and about half the price of the 15 iirc.
Looks fine. I'm not a pc gamer but apparently an i7 & 16gig are overkill for gaming (if that's your main aim) unless you're streaming/recording gameplay at the same time.
I would just step up in watts for xfx psus, they're all made by seasonic who are one of the premier psu manufacturers but the xfxs are usually a little cheaper, a lot of antec units are made by seasonic too but you can check which ones at the realhardx psu manufacture/review database - http://www.realhardtechx.com/index_archivos/PSUReviewDatabase.html
SP600 ssd is getting on a bit iirc, transcends 370 is newer a few quid cheaper & prolly better performing, see the review at anandtech for the full run down
H series mobo is locked so that's no good for overclocking, afaik, with the possible exception of the g3258.