A friend of mine runs an Evolv ITX case with the exact same card and has no thermal throttling problems, which is making me wonder why you are experiencing this issue. Do you have any idea why this is happening?
Custom loops can require slightly different fan configurations to run at the best temperatures. This could be what worked best for him in testing, and I would assume that he knows what he is doing.
I honestly only thought that drchoi would build one of these and post it, but I was wrong. I seriously hope more people do builds like this, as they are really cool!
I agree, the build is very clean. However, the 4790k will not cause any issues with the 1070. It is still an extremely capable processor in 2019, especially for the price he managed to achieve.
Unfortunately, this generation of Ryzen chips ship with a less beefy cooler then that of the last generation. High temperatures on idle and load are somewhat to be expected, however you can adjust your fan curve in the bios to improve them slightly. Your cinebench score is nothing out of the ordinary, which makes me think that you aren't throttling.
My recommendations;
Go to your bios, and set your fan curve to something more aggressive. There should be some presets, and figure out which one is best for you. I never recommend presets along the lines of "quiet" because they cause your CPU to run a bit too toasty
Possibly check if your cooler is tightened down all the way. If it is too loose, not enough heat may be transferring between your chip and your cooler
The main purpose of standoffs is to prevent soldered parts of the motherboard from coming in contact with the case, thus creating a ground to prevent any shorts that may kill your components. Assuming that you have installed most of the standoffs in all of the available holes, you should be fine. One standoff missing will generally not cause any issues, unless it is causing the motherboard to flex and come in contact with the bare metal of the case. Standoffs are not as important as they used to be, (arguably) because more safety features are being implemented with each new motherboard generation to automatically prevent everything from dying from one short.
Due to the fact that you are using a laptop, there are not many options available in terms of cooling your components. If there is enough room, you could opt for an NVME SSD heatsink like you said (I recommend the one from EKWB) which could help dissipate heat from the drive. This might help, however this is only provided that you have enough room to fit one under the hood of your laptop.
To answer your question, you should take the copper plate off if you were to opt for a heatsink. The heatsink should come with small thermal pads, which need to make direct contact with the storage modules on the drive.
Edit: I recommend searching up the model of your SSD to make sure that the copper plate is not actually a part of the module that is soldered on permanently. If the copper plate is "glued" onto the modules, then yanking it off may destroy your SSD.
I would personally give it a few months for the release of AMD's 3000 series of processors. Their supposed lineup consists of excellent CPUs for the price, as per usual with Ryzen.
I love the Macho Rev B, it offers really good performance per dollar especially if you can get it for under $50. Nice work, this will definitely serve as inspiration for one of my upcoming builds.
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I understand what you mean now, you can't find the option for VGA cooler in the dropdown menu for custom parts.... Regardless, for now I recommend adding it manually under the "Case Fan" category or other.
Nice machine, however I believe that the fans on the front are set in the wrong orientation. From the looks of it, your AIO is exhausting air out the front. The issue with this orientation is that no air from outside of the case is coming in, essentially choking all of your components (especially your RX 580, which needs air to stay cool.) All you need to do is flip around the front fans and you should be all set.
Allow me to piggyback on this; The build that you have listed is, without a doubt, extremely powerful and should have no real issues with graphic intensive games. My only concern is that you may be purchasing a 9900k when it isn't completely necessary. In terms of gaming performance, yes, the 9900k is the best- however, the negligible differences you will end up seeing in framerates over a 9700k (for example) may not be worth it in the end. On the other hand, if you plan on using this machine as a workstation at any point the 9900k may be useful. Although this is just my two cents, I would personally recommend spending a bit less on the CPU and going with a 9700k.
I would personally use that X58 board to its full potential and slap a 6-core xeon on it. An X5670 will put it up with many modern rigs, and it should only cost you $25 on eBay.
I'm not going to jump to any real conclusions here or anything, but based on your profile picture I am assuming that you plan on playing Fortnite. With this in mind, a used RX 580 on ebay would do the trick. If you wait long enough, one can be had for under $100 no problem.
I'm not completely sure what you mean by a "Video Card Cooler." Do you mean a VGA cooler or a waterblock? Either way, these two parts are somewhat niche and most builds won't utilize either. For parts like this, you are able to use the "Add Custom Part" button and enter an Amazon.com URL that links to the part that you desire to use. I'm not going to speak for the staff here, but I don't think it is worth the effort to add a functionality for a very small percentage of the users on the site.
Just a sidenote for those of you that are interested in starting a small in-home PC building/selling/flipping business, EVGA B-Stock is a great source for getting inexpensive refurbished power supplies that aren't ridiculously sketchy. Be sure to avoid power supplies that are too old or have bad ratings. Remember, power supplies are the backbone of your system and it's a good idea to be safe.
Nice work for a first build, however is there any reason why the front fans aren't set to intake? I would strongly recommend that you reverse them to give the components inside some air- especially that 1080ti.
I actually somewhat like it without the cable combs. While cable combs are great and all, they can limit how you can bend your braided cables. It's up to you, though- your build, not mine.
SLI is rarely ever worth it anymore, usually because of scaling issues in modern games. As a matter of fact, more times than not the second card is just going to be sitting in your second slot and not doing anything (due to no SLI support.) I only really recommend SLI if you manage to find a steal on ebay for two 1080s, presumably for 250 each.
Delidding on the other hand, is really only something you should do if you plan on overclocking, or running an ITX rig where temps are going to be an issue. It's pretty much up to personal preference, but if you are just a regular consumer you shouldn't need to spend the 50 dollars on a delid tool.
It's not all about the IPC though, because it is 100% true that some 8th gen chips perform way better than others- in terms of overclocking performance and temps regardless of being delidded. Those that do perform significantly better are sometimes binned during testing and are re-sold as factory overclocked chips (8086k)
The scaling quality heavily depends on the specific game/workload you're using, and the performance of the second card really varies. For example, one 1080ti will give you 100 FPS in one game, but the second 1080ti will provide you with an additional 50 frames. This basically means that the second 1080ti is giving you only an additional ~50% performance in some games. This is basically how scaling applies on a consumer level. Some older Radeon HD graphics cards, like the HD 7770s, actually scale really well. On my crossfire rig I am achieving about ~80% scaling returns from my second card (one card gives me about 60 frames, while the second one almost doubles it to 100 frames). This really just goes to show how over time the dual-gpu setup is really losing it's value.
Or you know, replace the BQ! fan from the cooler because it won't match the rest of your build. I hate seeing criticism like this that isn't constructive in any way, it just creates a negative environment on the site.
Except it can. Performance at any resolution is heavily dependent on what settings you use and at what framerates you aim to achieve. The R9 Fury is about ~10% faster than the RX 580 at full boost. That puts it about on-par with the GTX 980 which is a proven 1440p capable card.
