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Comment reply on Forum Topic "Just some stats to show you if you are sick to avoid contact with people over 60 years old (covid19)."

  • 29 days ago
  • 1 point

Generally if you are sick it is better not to spread it to anyone regardless of age group. Of course this is easier said than done but reducing the chances of spreading it is the best bet.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Noctua Battle : NH-U12A VS NH-D15"

  • 29 days ago
  • 1 point

There are many factors that goes into a CPU cooler performance. IIRC the u12a has a much more dense fin stack and the way the heat pipes are makes it very efficient transferring heat into the air. Also Noctua has a newer style of fan they developed for the u12a and to us fans are fans but Noctua put 4 and a half years into RnD developing these fans and it shows in the performance of them. There is way more to fans than max air flow, pressure, and noise. Noctua considers those stats at every RPM of the fan and optimize it to have the max airflow across the chart. They even had to change the type of plastic they used on the fan blades which is why you see more of a spotted pattern in the plastic compared to the D15. It is a more rigid plastic that has less long term droop so they can have the fan blade closer to the housing of the fan for higher efficiency.

If you want to learn more about the fan that comes on the u12a check this out: https://www.pcgamer.com/noctua-spent-four-and-a-half-years-designing-its-quietest-strongest-fan-yet/

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Sorry, I'm a first-time builder. Q: If I use a 2nd M.2 slot, will it slow down my storage speeds?"

  • 29 days ago
  • 1 point

Also just to add onto this is that there are very few workloads where you would be able to tell the difference. Comparing the speeds of 3x NVMe drives with their own dedicated PCIe lanes vs 3x NVMe drives sharing the same 4 PCIe lanes. Sure each having full bandwidth is faster but not much can take the full benefit of that kind of speed. Well if you are transferring large files from one drive to the other you will notice the difference then but it would only matter if transferring many GB at a time and very often. Loading up games however won't really have a difference either way.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Noctua Battle : NH-U12A VS NH-D15"

  • 29 days ago
  • 2 points

It needs to handle a I7 9700K at 4.7 - 5.0 GHz at around 1.2 - 1.3 volts.

I believe both coolers are capable of that out of the box using the fans they come with. I agree with ImperiousBattlestar on just get whatever is cheaper or you can go with whichever you think looks better.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Which m.2 card and will it make a difference."

  • 29 days ago
  • 3 points

When it comes to SSD performance if you use it to load games off of you are likely not able to notice the speed difference between them.

Source https://youtu.be/4DKLA7w9eeA

A few drives to look at that will give you the 1TB:

https://pcpartpicker.com/products/compare/h3tQzy,9nhKHx,vRWfrH,sDBTwP/

Has 2 SATA SSDs with the more expensive one having a cache and 2 budget NVMe SSDs that are well known good value drives. Even the most expensive SSD out of those 4 is still far cheaper than the Samsung 970 evo NVMe and in a blind test you won't be able to tell them apart with loading games.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Which of these for a second monitor?"

  • 1 month ago
  • 1 point

What is your primary screen? I would aim for a screen that looks at least similar to the main just for consistency. IPS is an interesting screen type as it gives the best colours and contrast out of the 3 main types (IPS/VA/TN) but if you want fast response times on them they do get very expensive fast. Luckily the uses you stated do not require over 60 fps and 5ms response time should be fine.

My work bonus did finally come in today and I decided to pull the trigger and order myself the Asus vz249he as it was a low cost IPS panel that met a few criteria of mine. I just ordered it online today so I can't give my review on it yet. I wanted it within 1" size of my main screen an AOC G2590FX and both displays have the same type of super thin bezels. My old secondary display from like 2007 is dated and it is time for it to go.

One thing I did notice when I got my 144hz 1ms AOC screen is that I really noticed the fast response time of the pixels. I mean if I play a video at like 30 fps on it (lots of anime I watch is) I can literally count the frames. I am hoping the new secondary screen will do better with video playback and a slower response time may help smooth that over.

That AOC screen you linked is the current lowest cost IPS panel shown on this site for USA and I am surprised it has freesync. Without digging into the specs I am going to bet its range is 60-75hz as that is usually what I see on 75hz freesync screens. You will not be using that feature for movies or web browsing so that quality of freesync isn't going to matter. If I had to pick between the 2 of them I would likely pick the AOC anyhow. Both Acer and AOC seem to have 3 year warranties. You also don't need anything super fancy for a second screen either.

Once I get my new monitor either later this week or early next week I will reply back with how that one is working for me.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Air or Liquid"

  • 1 month ago
  • 1 point

Even the Fuma 2 rev B cooler would be ample for that CPU and it is at an even lower cost. Definitely not a loud cooler either and as no pump or flowing liquid also has less "possible" points of failure compared to an AIO. Though some people will spend the extra on an AIO because they prefer the looks of it and there is nothing wrong with that either.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "HDD to SSD"

  • 1 month ago
  • 1 point

Just to add on to this say OP needs to get things like internet shortcuts and other stuff that is much easier accessed from booting from the HDD he can always boot off the HDD again after installing windows on the SSD as nothing was erased off the HDD.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "2x 1TB SSD or 1x 2TB SSD?"

  • 1 month ago
  • 2 points

I do prefer to have my OS and other important softwares installed on a separate storage from my games.

To be honest I doubt you will be booting windows while you are playing games so I would not worry about a bottleneck on data throughput from programs and windows causing loading problems with your games as you almost never load multiple things at the exact same time. Also once the game finishes loading a map/zone/etc it generally does not even need to load anything until another map/zone/etc needs to be loaded so there is a lot of downtime on drive usage while gaming.

As for quality of life if you have 1x 1TB drives and one starts getting full you will then need to move stuff from one drive to the other. If you have a single 2 TB drive then the free space is available for whatever you need. Say you got 200GB of what you would normally have for windows and basic programs you will have ~800gb free on the main drive and say you got 90% of the second drive full of games then you have to be careful where you install games to. Now mix in games getting expansions or content patches they will take up more room. If it were a 2TB SSD then that won't be a concern but if it was 2x 1TB then you will need to move games to the other drive or uninstall some of them.

Also with a 2TB SSD you can partition the drive, 500gb for windows and programs and 1.5tb for your games. If 2x 1TB and 1x 2TB SSDs were the same price I would go for the 2TB. Another consideration is future upgrades if you have 3 M.2 slots and use only 1 slot then you have 2 empty ones available for future upgrades instead of just a single slot.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Difference on qualities and performance between non-wireless networking motherboard and wireless networking motherboard"

  • 1 month ago
  • 1 point

Well if you are looking at a specific motherboard that has a wireless version and non wireless version then I am not sure what performance spec you are looking to compare. Wireless network will have different performance than wired network as far as data transfer rates and latency is concerned. As far as CPU or GPU performance it does not matter if you are using wireless or wired those will still run as they are.

The specs of the VRMs on a motherboard can affect the performance of a CPU. Generally more phases is more control of the power for stability and better quality VRMs can handle higher wattage than lower quality ones. Better VRMs usually means better overclocking and better support for higher core count CPUs. Pushing bad VRMs too much could also cause premature board failure too. Just thinking of all those 3x2 phase VRM b350 chipset boards that had no VRM cooling where dropping in a 8 core Ryzen trying to OC with it. That is a recipe for disaster there.

Now there are other features that may be a consideration for motherboards such as number of SATA ports, NVMe support especially if you want 2-3 NVMe drives, RGB/ARGB headers built in, USB type c internal connector for front panel, etc. These get considered around your use of the PC.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Is the Intel 19 9900k any good?"

  • 1 month ago
  • 1 point

It will be interesting to see,how its succesor compares to the mighty 3900X in price and performance.

I am curious about that too and will be watching with a bowl of popcorn knowing the recent track record of CPU launches from Intel. Would love to see an actual new architect and not a rehash on the existing one. Intel promised a new architect before and withdrew it due to development issues and gave another rehash so I will remain skeptical until I see it.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Overwatch 240hz Monitor"

  • 1 month ago
  • 1 point

So you already have the computer and were not asking if it can do 200+ fps on overwatch for a 240hz screen? We were under the assumption you didn't have the computer yet. If you are getting 250-300 fps now on 1080p the old display will only shows 144 fps of it and a the new monitor will show 240 fps of it. If the resolution and game settings stays the same the FPS will also stay the same. Would be a different matter if the resolution changed to 1440p or 4k.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Overwatch 240hz Monitor"

  • 1 month ago
  • 1 point

Well CPU performance is a key factor when trying to push a game to a high frame rate and 240 fps is usually a tall order. The infiniti fabric that connects the cores in that Ryzen CPU is directly affected by ram speed so spending a little bit more for much faster ram I thought was a good suggestion. As far as CPU frequency better cooling means you may be able to get a higher clock rate out of the CPU which in turn means more CPU power too. Those suggestions were to squeeze out a bit more power for a higher average fps and more importantly the 1% lows which can make the game feel smoother. This is why I suggested those things as a $20 cooler and an extra $12-$13 on ram is not a huge price increase.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Overwatch 240hz Monitor"

  • 1 month ago
  • 1 point

The thing is with a 240hz screen you need your computer to be able to feed it that many FPS to be able to take advantage of it. It should be a given that you can plug that monitor into your PC and get a picture on the screen but we thought you wanted to know if your supposed hardware can take advantage of the high framerate the screen can show. That is why we answered about the framerate of the game on your hardware. If you play a game and your PC can only play it at 60 fps then your monitor will only have 60 fps as the input and the extra 160hz is essentially wasted on a 240hz screen. We answered if overwatch can get that many FPS to keep up with your screen.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Overwatch 240hz Monitor"

  • 1 month ago
  • 1 point

Using a r5 2600 and a 1660 TI I found this video to show how well overwatch performs on that setup:

https://youtu.be/IHEejyGh6L4

Drop your settings to low settings on 1080p and you can get a FPS range of 250-300 fps. You should be able to increase some settings and still maintain an average of 200 fps. I see in that video the GPU never runs at 100% load and it is likely a single CPU core may be the bottleneck. Due to ram prices though you should be able to find decently priced 3200 or 3600mhz ram kits. Try this ram kit here. May be ~$12 more but it is low latency 3600mhz ram which may help as that Ryzen scales with ram speed.

Also adding an upgraded cooler may help get more out of turbo boost and overclocking. Even a budget tower cooler will do a better job than the stock cooler and could translate into a bit better performance. These two coolers from Deepcool and Scythe are actually some really good price to performance ones. The Scythe may be a bit overkill but the Deepcool will do much better than the stock cooler.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Free sync on an Nvidia card?"

  • 1 month ago
  • 1 point

Not all freesync panels are created equal. With a G-Sync display to claim gsync they need to meet some strict standards from nVidia but with freesync AMD does not have a certification test/process. Freesync tends to be much cheaper as a result but your mileage varies screen to screen.

One of the largest parts of freesync I see is the range freesync will work on the screen. If your FPS drops below that amount and you no longer have freesync. I have seen screens that have 60 fps as the low and those are bad as there are many games that will dip below 60 due to quirks in the game engine regardless of your PC hardware. The screen you linked has a range of 48 to 144 and the screen I am using right now is a 30 to 144 range. That was on a AOC G2590FX, it did need some serious colour calibration when I got it but after that it's been good to me.

Now GTX 1000 series and greater cards can use the freesync in all freesync panels through the displayport cable but how good that freesync monitor is depends on the monitor. When nVidia released the freesync option they had tried to show the "problems" of non-certified gsync compatible freesync but all the issue shown were just because those screens were just bad screens.

That Acer screen you linked does seem rather decent and is for sure not the worst I have seen. I am also pondering the idea of a new second screen so I have been doing some research myself.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Upgrading from a Skylake G4400 Pentium to a Kaby Lake i7 7700k"

  • 1 month ago
  • 1 point

Keep in mind used i7-7700k CPUs still cost too much for the power they give these days. They usually cost ~$300 USD used unless you can find a killer deal. At that price you can buy a new CPU and motherboard that has even more cores/threads. This is under the assumption you are using a video card.

PCPartPicker Part List

Type Item Price
CPU *AMD Ryzen 5 2600 3.4 GHz 6-Core Processor $124.99 @ Walmart
Motherboard ASRock B450M PRO4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard $83.98 @ Newegg
Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
Total $208.97
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-03-05 16:51 EST-0500

I would only recommend paying for the i7 if it were a decent price drop than what I just listed. You can use your old ram on the new motherboard and only 2 things that need to be purchased is CPU and motherboard. Sure the i7-7700k has higher single core speed (not by much especially if not overclocked) and the Ryzen has 6c12t instead of 4c8t. Games that can scale with more than 4 cores will generally play better on a higher core count CPU than a 4 core CPU.

I would pick the r5-2600 over the r5-3400g (4c8t with internal graphics) unless you don't have a GPU and the r5-3600 will perform better than the 2600.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "How Much Storage Is Needed for a Gaming and Streaming PC?"

  • 1 month ago
  • 1 point

You need to figure out how many games and what games you want installed and then check the space requirements for each game and add it up. Add another 120gb for windows and basic programs. It does help buying a size larger than you think you will need as say you calculate 500GB needed get 1TB for growth. Now you do not need all your games on your SSD. You can easily install less played games on a HDD to save SSD space too.

Streaming on its own does not take much storage space at all as all you are doing is uploading a live video feed to the internet. If you record your own gameplay to your system then you will take up a lot of space. For this I would recommend enough SSD storage to record your gaming session and a second HDD for bulk storage. Depending on how much video you save you may need multiple HDDs.

For myself I don't livestream much but I do sometimes record my own gameplay and upload it on youtube. Back when I still played WoW I used to record all our boss fights and upload our boss kills so I often needed to record an entire raid night that lasts 5-6 hours so I can then take clips out of it later on. I easily ended up with over 100gb of video in a single night before I cut out the footage I didn't need. I recorded in 1080p 60hz using a program called Action!. I liked it more than OBS.

I also have 3x 3tb HDDs that has mostly video on them and debated about saving up for a pair of 12tb HDDs but I have not been recording that much anymore since I quit playing WoW. I likely will livestream my monk leveling for season 20 in diablo though. Hope I get lucky on a good cube rare upgrade on a diabo for a solid leveling boost.

Though I cannot say if what you have is sufficient because I do not know how much you are saving.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Can I use my old cooler on 3900x?"

  • 1 month ago
  • 1 point

https://pcpartpicker.com/products/compare/8GBrxr,FRYLrH,ZLtQzy,w3c48d/

I would recommend a better cooler than the 1700 stock cooler on the 3900x. Even with gaming it might get hot. I linked a few coolers to look at. The Deepcool cooler for $23 is more powerful than the stock cooler and will work BUT the weakest cooler of the 4. The Scythe Mugen 5 cooler is going to be your best value at $49 for price to performance and even though I didnt link it the Fuma 2 from the same company is awesome too. The other 2 are a bit more expensive where the dark rock pro 4 has a nice black aesthetic and silent cooler and the beast of the Noctua u12a. That Noctua u12a beats out many AIO coolers.

If the 3900x broke the bank and you need a cooler now then get the deepcool cooler. It will get you up and running until you can get a better cooler later on, of course not the ideal method as once you get the better cooler the cost of the deepcool cooler is kind of a waste. If you can stretch it the mugen 5 is the best value and will do a good job and let your CPU cut loose more.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "AIO Cooling, Custom Liquid Cooling, or Air Cooling?"

  • 1 month ago
  • 3 points

Custom loop:

  • Most expensive option
  • Provides the absolute best cooling out of the 3 types but hardware today does not require this level of performance
  • Requires regular maintenance that can get annoying
  • More points of possible leaks and failure as you need to assemble everything
  • Only reason to get a custom loop is for your epeen

AIO:

  • Not the best price to performance but FAR cheaper than custom loop
  • Still has pump and water so pump failure and leaks are something that "can" happen. Not necessary "will" happen within the life of the PC.
  • Does not have the same maintenance as a custom loop
  • Many people like the looks of these coolers
  • often great cooling performance except for the 120mm radiator versions
  • If pump dies entire cooler needs to be replaced

Air Coolers: (my favorite type)

  • Best cost to performance
  • There are air coolers that beat AIOs
  • Often the most silent as no pumps or flowing water to make noise
  • Most reliable cooler type as only possible point of failure is the fan and fans are easy and cheap to replace.
  • Can be very bulky and take a lot of room in your case, need to ensure enough space in case to fit it.
  • Some people prefer the looks of air coolers, myself included

All in all there are pros and cons to all 3 types and which one is best for you depends mostly on you. All 3 types have viable options and if it does the job keeping the CPU cool then that is the biggest factor. Air coolers are most cost effective and reliable while AIOs are great if you don't mind spending a little more and want the aesthetics while custom loop is mainly for enthusiasts.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Is this OC for an i7-9700k ok?"

  • 1 month ago
  • 1 point

I usually increase voltages by the minimal amount at a time, say 0.01v - 0.02v at a time if possible. Yes a higher voltage will increase heat but it can also improve stability if it is crashing. 1.37v is an okay max voltage but you do want to use the lowest possible voltage that keeps the system stable. If you run into a case where even at 1.37v you cannot keep the system stable at 5.0 GHz then you may need to drop the clock rate to 4.9 GHz. I don't think you may have to do that but with the silicon lotto there are chips out there that can't hit 5.0 GHz all cores.

9700K 5.00GHz 4.80GHz 1.350V Top 90% https://siliconlottery.com/pages/statistics

Basically from statistics on your CPU ~90% of them can get to 5.0 GHz with a 4.8 offset. If you are part of that 10% that can't hit that then you lost the silicon lotto and need to do 4.9 which all of them can do. I do believe yours should be able to get 5.0 GHz stable as long as temps are good since it is mostly stable at 1.3v with the odd crash. If temps do get too hot under AVX workload then keep the offset to 4.7 or 4.6.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Is this OC for an i7-9700k ok?"

  • 1 month ago
  • 1 point

what is your voltage at? If the CPU is not stable you might have to up the voltage a notch and retest a stress test for both stability and temps.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Is this OC for an i7-9700k ok?"

  • 1 month ago
  • 1 point

So what is the clock rate you got the CPU to?

Comment reply on Forum Topic "How much power can you pack with a 650w PSU"

  • 1 month ago
  • 1 point

Not always. There are cheap crappy PSUs that many of us recommend to avoid like the plague that cannot output their rated power.

Examples: https://youtu.be/f6snWfd1v7M

Comment reply on Forum Topic "I need advice with first build"

  • 1 month ago
  • 1 point

Considering ram prices at the moment try looking around the 3200-3600 mhz range.

Now as for bottlenecks on CPU to GPU look at it in another way. Does the CPU you want to get hit the performance target you want for your game and does the GPU you want hit the performance target for your games? Now the R5 3600 is a good option too.

Now this is what you stated you were originally going for (changed the i5 to a cheaper version without igpu and used cheapest 2070 available):

PCPartPicker Part List

Type Item Price
CPU Intel Core i5-9600KF 3.7 GHz 6-Core Processor $199.99 @ Amazon
Motherboard Asus PRIME Z390-A ATX LGA1151 Motherboard $171.96 @ Amazon
Memory Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory $79.98 @ Amazon
Video Card Gigabyte GeForce RTX 2070 8 GB WINDFORCE 2X Video Card $399.99 @ B&H
Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
Total $851.92
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-03-01 11:38 EST-0500

And here is an AMD equivalent with 3600mhz low CAS latency ram:

PCPartPicker Part List

Type Item Price
CPU AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor $174.99 @ B&H
Motherboard Gigabyte X570 GAMING X ATX AM4 Motherboard $154.99 @ Amazon
Memory G.Skill Ripjaws V 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory $82.99 @ Newegg
Video Card Gigabyte GeForce RTX 2070 8 GB WINDFORCE 2X Video Card $399.99 @ B&H
Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
Total $812.96
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-03-01 11:41 EST-0500

Now the actual gaming performance difference is going to be very small between the Ryzen and OC Intel and both CPUs I would recommend an aftermarket cooler but you can easily get away with a Fuma 2 cooler on either CPU and the Ryzen you can let its self turbo take over instead of a manual OC. The Ryzen also has multithreading so it will have more multicore power than the Intel.

As for how high of GPU you need it does depend on the game paired with what resolution and FPS you are aiming for. CPU becomes less important for gaming the higher the resolution as the GPU becomes the bigger limiter on FPS as resolutions get higher. Even with this said I still recommend a solid CPU for 1080p gaming so you know it can handle all your games from 1080p and higher resolutions.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "seperated pump & res proper fluid flow."

  • 1 month ago
  • 1 point

If you dry run a pump you can break it. You must have water in the pump when it runs so that is why the reservoir needs to be before the pump intake so it can feed water directly into the pump. The order of anything else in the system does not matter from CPU/GPU blocks and radiators.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Windows Compatibility with Build"

  • 1 month ago
  • 1 point

AMD is just not supporting or guaranteeing that win 7 will work on Ryzen. Also Microsoft had already fully cut support on it as well so there will no longer be security updates for it now I would not be looking to use windows 7 at this time. It is still possible to get windows 7 working on Ryzen but not recommended.

https://www.anandtech.com/show/11182/how-to-get-ryzen-working-on-windows-7-x64

Is there a reason not to go with windows 10? The usual reason I hear is due to privacy concerns but you can download a utility that sets all those options off to keep your privacy. Since Spybot anti-beacon is no longer free there is another free tool that can do the job for windows 10: https://wpd.app/
https://youtu.be/lZDL-OuLjn0

Comment reply on Forum Topic "i7 8700k worth it in 2020?"

  • 1 month ago
  • 1 point

Learning that 95w TDP from Intel is actually higher TDP than 105w TDP from AMD. Also about the difficulties in actually testing for this.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "first pc build scared and need to know if my parts are good for modern gaming such as fortnite etc."

  • 1 month ago
  • 1 point

i would get a bare minimum of an FX 8320

I would stay away from the FX line all together. My Pentium G4600 got better FPS in games over my old FX 8320 OC to 4.7 GHz. The R5 2600 or 2600x (whichever is cheaper, right now 2600x) is the best value choice right now. That being said I would still take the athlon 3000g over any of the FX line of CPUs and only costs $55 USD.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "i7 8700k worth it in 2020?"

  • 1 month ago
  • 1 point

The only 2 things I could find that the 7700k had over the Ryzen was that the Ryzen was a new platform and had some expected initial growing pains with new BIOS version being dished out every couple of weeks for a time and that the 7700k had better single core speed. Of course the future upgrade options, lower price, extra cores, even if lower than the 7700k it still had awesome single core speed were things that made me decide to get the CPU I have now. This is what I meant by considering pros and cons between the CPUs. I knew new platforms have "growing pains" at first and after a few BIOS versions stability was improved greatly to were I did not have to worry about it. Now Ryzen is a mature platform and no longer has it's original growing pains it had early 2017. Due to having 8c16t I feel it is also aging better to where now I am still happy with my current CPU and if I did get the 7700k I may be starting to itch for an upgrade already.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Transferring data"

  • 1 month ago
  • 2 points

If you use Steam client and have a ton of games in there then you can make a game folder on the new drive. Once that is done you can right click a game and properties. There should be a tab for local files and gives an option to move the game to another steam folder. I use this method to move games from my SSD to my HDDs so my most played games are on the SSD and when done playing them they go back to the HDD.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Stock paste on Kraken X63?"

  • 1 month ago
  • 1 point

Usually high end coolers comes with decent thermal paste and the difference in performance from that and the best on the market may only be 1-2c at most. As long as there is nothing obviously wrong with the paste that comes with the cooler you won't need to worry about buying new paste.

I got a dark rock pro 3 cooler myself and I just used the paste that came with it but it was not pre-applied and came in a tube. I get some awesome temps on my CPU and I still have more than 20c of thermal headroom to what I consider the ideal temps for a CPU so if I could shave another 1-2c off it would not benefit me in any way.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Suggestions for a Dell Optiplex 960MT?"

  • 1 month ago
  • 1 point

The motherboard in that case is not a standard motherboard. The CPU is on an angle in that motherboard and the holes that connect the cooler is in a non standard place so I don't think you can fit another cooler without some form of modding to make your own mounting bracket from scratch. This is why I am not a fan of prebuilt PCs.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Make PC Quieter/ Which CPU Cooler"

  • 1 month ago
  • 2 points

I find good case airflow and a decent tower cooler will reduce noise by a good amount. Not a fan of the front intake on that case as it looks like the front fans fight for air from the narrow vent on the left side of the front panel but it is better than nothing.

Not many CPU cooler options for 155mm clearance but a good choice is Scythe Fuma 2 cooler for $60 USD. It will be more silent than a dual fan AIO as the AIO will also have a pump and flowing water for added noise beyond the fans.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "AMD RYZEN upgrade"

  • 1 month ago
  • 1 point

I can't help but think a 3900x is complete overkill for Fortnite lol. Good to hear that it is working out for you though.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "i7 8700k worth it in 2020?"

  • 1 month ago
  • 1 point

Actually the overheating issues for AMD did apply to the old FX line of CPUs. Seeing stock setting TDP listings for 220w on some of them like the FX 9590 as an example and max temps from AMD often had them a lot lower. That same FX 9590 AMD listed it's max temp at 57c. You needed a lot of cooling power to keep 220w under that temp. Intel was clearly the CPU choice until Ryzen hit the markets. I believe I made the right choice early 2017 when I got my 1800x instead of the 7700k that was available at the time. I know I spent a lot of time debating between the two considering pros and cons of each CPU. I can assure that the brand name did not have weight on my choice.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "i7 8700k worth it in 2020?"

  • 1 month ago
  • 1 point

Yes if you use a Ryzen processor on a bad ventilated Case, insufficient motherboard as VRM concerns, try to OC it with the stock cooler and do stupid things with the voltages then that makes sense.

I could not help but laugh a little as I saw a video from LTT testing the actual heat generated from Intel vs Ryzen and found the Ryzens actually produced less heat than the Intels. So if we were to compare apples to apples on motherboards with the same VRMs, CPU coolers, and case airflow then the Intels would have a harder time than the Ryzens.

https://youtu.be/6u4ew6IT4Vo

Comment reply on Forum Topic "my OC'd 6600k is only getting up to 40 degrees??"

  • 1 month ago
  • 1 point

I would say 4.5 GHz is a good target for now. IIRC the average OC limit to that chip was 4.7 GHz, though few were not able to hit your 4.5 and a few lucky people got theirs to 5.0 ghz. And extra 200 mhz for the average may not add a lot of performance so if you are happy with 4.5 performance then I would stay there. I can't complain about temps as your peak thermals are low enough to have some extra headroom. That extra headroom will be useful in the summer if your house gets hotter then so you still don't have to worry about your CPU getting too hot.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Ports on a motherboard"

  • 1 month ago
  • 2 points

Well CSGO can play on a potato but even your video showed it vary from 70-90 fps instead. Now take a more demanding game like Doom 2016 and you get 40-55 fps on 1080p low settings on that same igpu. Now Doom 2016 is a great example as it is a really well optimized game and is still one of the easier games to run by today's standards. It has a FPS cap of 200 because any higher the physics of the game glitches out and much of the higher end hardware today easily maxes that game out. This is why I say that looking for 144hz gaming on an IGPU is a little unreasonable.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Ports on a motherboard"

  • 1 month ago
  • 2 points

Also most videos play at 30/60 fps and as far as gaming is concerned any game that could really benefit from 144hz over 60 because igpus can't really output 144 fps in most games. Well I can understand wanting to run an IGPU at 60hz on a 4k TV for a media PC which iirc even the vega igpu only does 30 fps @ 4k resolutions.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "my OC'd 6600k is only getting up to 40 degrees??"

  • 1 month ago
  • 1 point

Cores got up as high as about 72 for short periods here and there

Those are some good CPU temps you have there!

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Need help with choosing CPU for my build please!"

  • 1 month ago
  • 1 point

I only chose the WiFi board because OPs original part list had a motherboard with WiFi so I thought there was a chance OP may have been wanting that feature. Prices to change day to day so what was once under 1800 could be over 1800 the next day.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "What processor is good with the rx590"

  • 1 month ago
  • 1 point

I see. I suppose I had the Canadian prices in mind as the 2600x is more expensive than the 2600 in Canada. Interesting that it is the other way around in the US. Also funny that the r5 1400 is more expensive than either of those 2 in Canada yet the newer ones are clearly better lol.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Intel 660p or Sabrent Rocket"

  • 1 month ago
  • 1 point

The Sabrent Rocket is the faster NVMe SSD but in all honesty you can't go wrong with either one of them unless you over pay for the drive. I did get the Intel 660p 512gb NVMe drive myself early 2017 and it is working like a champ for me BUT I do wish I got a larger size lol. That is my only gripe about the drive.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Stock cooler vs. Noctua NH-D15"

  • 1 month ago
  • 3 points

Aside from the awesome advice from Mark5916, just to answer the question in the title:

Stock cooler vs. Noctua NH-D15

You cannot compare the two, the Noctua would blow the stock cooler away. pun intended!

Comment reply on Forum Topic "What processor is good with the rx590"

  • 1 month ago
  • 2 points

I see you have a build saved on your profile with an r5-2600. If you already have that CPU then that is a solid CPU to pair with that video card. If you haven't purchased yet then it is a strong value option atm.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Testing my 6600k OC with only games?"

  • 1 month ago
  • 1 point

AIDA64 also has a checkbox for stress GPU too when you run its system stability test.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "i7-7700K vs i7-9700K? Which to buy?"

  • 1 month ago
  • 1 point

IMO the i7-7700k is still a good CPU. Sure it is only a 4 core CPU but it does have hyperthreading. Well it really depends on what you are doing, if you are doing a task that really scales with having more cores/threads will have a huge impact in your work then it may be worth it to look into a r7-3700k or r7-2700. If gaming is your biggest concern the upgrade to a 9700k will be minor for FPS.

The extra 5-10 fps gain when you are over 100 fps already in my opinion is not worth the cost of a new CPU and motherboard.

https://youtu.be/MTL95WnNhCc

Comment reply on Forum Topic "WD 4TB HDD screws and mounter - Urgent plz advice. Placing a order."

  • 1 month ago
  • 1 point

When you build a PC the motherboard comes with SATA cables. PC cases comes with a bag of screws and such for installing things in them and screws and/or brackets for HDDs comes with the case. Any time I build a PC I keep the motherboard box and toss in all the extra hardware incase I need to upgrade in the future. If you are lacking any of these screws or SATA cables then either buy more online or go to a local PC store and get them there. These things should be rather cheap.

Edit: Glad to see after all this time you are finally going to buy the HDD!

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Need help with choosing CPU for my build please!"

  • 1 month ago
  • 1 point

Then you should go with either Ryzen 7 3700X or Ryzen 7 2700X

Just to show an example build with the R7-3700x using the base build OP listed as a base. I also changed the cooler to a more cost effective one that will still allow the CPU to go all out and changed the ram to faster 3600mhz low latency ram. The change will make the overall PC cost $70 less. As for gaming performance the Ryzen will be lower than the intel but we are talking a tiny margin so you most likely won't be able to tell them apart in a blind test and as for multithreaded workloads the 3700x has multithreading as well so that pushes the multicore performance over the i7-9700k. If you really want to go Intel then the i7-9700KF is about $10 cheaper than the 9700k but lacks integrated graphics which won't matter as you are getting a 2080 super. The extra money saved on the Ryzen however can go towards a secondary HDD or a larger SSD for more storage space as 500gb by itself will run out fast.

PCPartPicker Part List

Type Item Price
CPU AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor $299.99 @ B&H
CPU Cooler Scythe FUMA 2 51.17 CFM CPU Cooler $59.99 @ Amazon
Motherboard ASRock X570 Steel Legend WiFi ax ATX AM4 Motherboard $169.99 @ Newegg
Memory G.Skill Ripjaws V 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory $82.99 @ Newegg
Storage HP EX950 512 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive $79.98 @ Amazon
Video Card EVGA GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER 8 GB XC GAMING Video Card $509.99 @ Newegg
Case NZXT H510 Elite ATX Mid Tower Case $148.99 @ Amazon
Power Supply EVGA BQ 600 W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply $70.70 @ Amazon
Monitor Acer VG271 Pbmiipx 27.0" 1920x1080 144 Hz Monitor $234.46 @ Amazon
Keyboard Logitech G512 CARBON Wired Gaming Keyboard $99.99
Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
Total $1757.07
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-02-28 10:28 EST-0500

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