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Comment reply on Forum Topic "Nub at PCs Need help with monitors and gpus"

  • 12 days ago
  • 1 point

The 3rd gen Ryzen gets released on the 7th and they likely will not have any benchmarks by 3rd party reviewers out until then. Without actual unbiased testing done on them we don't know how they will actually perform. To be fair people have high hopes on them right now. As of today the R7-2700x is a really awesome gaming CPU and offers a fair amount of value vs the i9-9900k as the cost difference is larger than the performance difference. If the r7-3700x will beat the i9 or if not how close it gets is totally unproven yet. If it at least ties the i9 in performance it will be a HUGE game changer again from AMD.

The CPU pick is totally for the gaming aspect of the PC as your trading isn't going to be as nearly as CPU dependant. As you are only going to have an RTX 2060 you will not need the most powerful CPU on the market either. I would suspect a well priced 6 to 8 core will be plenty.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Nub at PCs Need help with monitors and gpus"

  • 12 days ago
  • 1 point

Well according to the Gforce spec page for that GPU it can support up to 4 displays and comes with 3 display ports and 1 HDMI. The Ryzen CPU does not have integrated graphics so you will lose that option as I was assuming on the i7-9700k. You might want to only designate one of the monitors that is using display port to allow freesync (can support 1 at a time) and make that your main gaming monitor as freesync is awesome for gaming.

I am eager to see how the 3rd gen ryzens perform but sadly I won't be in range for internet starting tomorrow until the 21st. Going on a camping trip in the middle of nowhere (north of lake huron Ontario canada) and won't even have cell phone service lol.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Nub at PCs Need help with monitors and gpus"

  • 12 days ago
  • 1 point

Pro tip: You can go into the bios and re enable the igpu in your CPU if you want yet another display hooked up to your PC. Whichever monitor you plug into that onboard video won't be good enough for gaming but for spreadsheets, web browsers, movies, etc it is more than ample for. That motherboard also has HDMI so any display that can use HDMI will work there.

Just saying in case if you ever want a 4th display. With trading screen real estate can be everything. Gaming you don't really need that many displays.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Nub at PCs Need help with case fans"

  • 12 days ago
  • 1 point

Well you can have the H150i as intake at the front and split your other 3 fans as exhaust, 2 top and 1 back. Not sure if it would fit (haven't checked compatibility) but if it does you could also do the radiator as exhaust in the top with the 3 other fans as intake at the front.

If you are looking to save money on your build you might want to check out the dark rock pro 4 cooler. That plus a bit extra for 3 more case fans and you have the makings of some really good CPU cooling. You will not have to worry about such a massive cooler crowding out ram as that MSI - Z390-A PRO ATX motherboard if using 2 sticks of ram needs to have the sticks in slots 2 and 4 away from the CPU. That cooler should have zero issues cooling an i7-9700k on a high overclock.

If you want extra case fans that are super cheap but really good for the price check these out: https://pcpartpicker.com/product/HPZQzy/arctic-cooling-case-fan-af12pwm

PWM so you can plug them into the motherboard 4 pin headers and allows the motherboard to control them, stick 3 of these in the top of the case and have them speed controlled by the temps of the PC. Also has decent fluid dynamic bearings instead of sleeve bearings at that price point. You can keep your nice RGB fans in the front or where ever you find them most visible. This is if you decide and go for an air cooler instead of an AIO as it can save you around $50ish.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Pet Update"

  • 12 days ago
  • 2 points

Ball Pythons are like the puppy dog of the snakes typically with their demeanor. They make a great starter snake and are generally rather easy to take care of. I only have a cat myself but my Sister has 5 ball pythons, a bearded dragon (featured in her build ), 2 dogs and 2 cats. I would not want to look after that many pets at once lol. She uses thawed rat pups for food for her snakes and doesn't do any live feedings.

Once of her snakes was a rescue where the old owner got the snake only to watch live feedings and would often give it prey too big for it. It ended up getting a lot of scars and had scale rot when she got it. It is doing soo much better now and far less nippy than it used to be. Poor guy went through a lot.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "4th of July plans"

  • 12 days ago
  • 1 point

lol, I have seen numerous variations of that joke. Still had one hell of a Canada's day party the weekend before. Usually when drinking is involved we tend to use my place as I got extra beds for people to spend the night (drunk driving is not cool and neither is missing out lol) and 2 bathrooms. I had like 4 beers and about 1 liter of whiskey that afternoon (crown royal apple is awesome) and I was finally able to get a buzz for a change. GG high alcohol tolerance that comes from my mother's side of the family. We all bought something and we cooked homemade meatloaf and mashed potatoes done right for dinner that night. Glad I had a 6 gallon pot for boiling the potatoes so we had enough for everyone. I love those kind of potluck style dinners as I don't mind cooking and takeout cannot beat a home cooked meal. For dish cleanup I at least have a dishwasher so I can be lazy there.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "4th of July plans"

  • 12 days ago
  • 2 points

Well I am Canadian so we do not celebrate 4th of July here but 1st of July was Canada day and I spent the day working. Though as luck would have it I am going on a family wide camping trip starting tomorrow for about 2 weeks.

Already arranged a house sitter to look after my cat while I am gone and I still have to pack tonight.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Recommended replacement fans"

  • 12 days ago
  • 1 point

2x decent pressure fans will do the trick just fine. Noctua has some really killer 120mm PWM fans that will do a great job.

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/cFwqqs/noctua-nf-f12-pwm-chromaxblackswap-550-cfm-120mm-fan-nf-f12-pwm-chromaxblackswap

Picked a nice neutral colour one so it should look good in your build.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Incompatibilities with cpu and motherboard"

  • 12 days ago
  • 1 point

I would not recommend a b360 board for a k skew Intel as that is a non overclocking board for an overclocking chip. With a bios update it will work but you are paying extra for overclocking on the CPU and denying it with the motherboard.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "extension cord keeps kicking"

  • 13 days ago
  • 1 point

What do you mean by the machine "kicks"? I guess you mean everything shuts off. If a PC shuts off it is typical for the monitor to go into sleep mode. Try connecting the PC right to the wall and testing that way as suggested before. If that still happens then it is not the cord.

If the monitor is also shutting off and not going to sleep too then you may have to look at the power bar if you plug one into the extension cord to split power to everything.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Desire to Water Cool"

  • 13 days ago
  • 4 points

Not sure why you were downvoted.

The M22 is not a bad AIO but at least OP understands air coolers are a better value than the 120mm AIOs for cost to performance and is choosing this based on aesthetics. As long as the cooler can do the job and he likes the looks then it should be fine. I don't see any issues with the M22 cooling a 6 core chip with only a mild OC or not OC.

Myself I prefer the looks of a good air cooler but that is the great thing about the custom build market is that you can build it to your own preferences.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Ryzen Threadripper"

  • 14 days ago
  • 1 point

https://pcpartpicker.com/products/cpu/#s=63

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/cRDzK8/amd-threadripper-1920x-35ghz-12-core-processor-yd192xa8aewof

I see plenty on the CPU list. You must have a compatibility filter on with parts that do not support ThreadRipper. Threadripper currently is only in the x399 platform.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "How often do you build a gaming pc?"

  • 15 days ago
  • 1 point

Well I tend to upgrade irregularly. I had a i7-970 PC in 2010 but had issues in 2013 and needed replacement ASAP and got a super budget fx 8320 system (cpu+mobo was cheaper than i3 on its own at the time, gg sales) then upgraded my PC in 2017 to a much more needed Ryzen 7. In 2018 I upgraded my GPU and this year I upgraded my monitor.

I tend to do partial upgrades every now and then rather than building a whole new PC from all new parts. My next upgrade I am eyeing is a new chair. I have been "upgrading" my steam library though steadily through the year as I watch for sales on games and keep checking humble bundle (they are not a key reseller).

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Steam Summer Sale"

  • 15 days ago
  • 1 point

If you don't mind JRPGs then the Tales series is top notch for story content. Games like Symphonia, Zestiria, Berseria, Vesperia.

Doom 2016 is on for a good price and I enjoy that game as well.

I also just picked up Shining Resonance Refrain and World of Final Fantasy so I have yet to play through those.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Learning curve for custom water loops?"

  • 15 days ago
  • 1 point

Depending on the fluid you use you may need to empty, clean, refill the loop every 6 months to 2 years on a custom water cooling loop. If you add easy drain ports on the loop the task becomes much simpler to do. Usually you add a "T" fitting at the lowest point and have a way to open the loop to air at the highest point. That way at the bottom you have a drain valve for easy draining and letting air in the top just makes it easier.

Customer water cooling tends to get very expensive so generally it is not worth doing unless you are getting the top end parts. Higher end parts on cheaper air/aio cooling (cpu and gpu) tends to outperform lower parts on custom loop cooling. The cost of a custom loop cooling can make the difference in cost to the better parts and that is why I do not think it worth it to do a custom loop unless you are getting top end parts.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "AIO or AIR Cooler"

  • 15 days ago
  • 1 point

You know there are air coolers that can beat AIOs right? Take a look on how good a HSF can be: https://youtu.be/23vjWtUpItk

Comment reply on Forum Topic "My old setup had a G4560+MSI rx 470. I have now acquired a used AMD rx 480 and i5-6400. Which CPU & GPU combo would be the most optimal for me?"

  • 16 days ago
  • 1 point

How smooth the game plays can also be considered an aesthetic too or at least makes the game more enjoyable. Older games won't have an issue as they were designed for older hardware but newer games can definitely benefit from the GPU power.

Though yes older games and lower budget games don't have the latest graphics for obvious reasons but I would still stand by my opinion that I would rather have PC performance over the aesthetics of the hardware if I were forced to choose.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "PreOrder date on Ryzen 3000?"

  • 16 days ago
  • 2 points

Not historically. Usually prices start high and drop over time for AMD CPUs.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "NVME M.2 suggestions?"

  • 17 days ago
  • 1 point

The price per GB on those 660p NVME ssds are awesome. Sure they may not be as fast as the 970 evo but it is still faster than any SATA based ssd on the market. Though for OP's comment saying it is just for the OS then I can assume he isn't doing something with the M.2 that can really use it speed. Like not using it as a high speed scratch drive for content creation or for acting as a server cache or anything. If it is to just load windows and games a good sata ssd would do really well and anything better would be just gravy.

Larger capacity is always more useful as you can install your most played games on it as well.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Mobo, need advice"

  • 17 days ago
  • 1 point

Would help to know what CPU the motherboard is going to be for. Would make it easier to pick an appropriate chipset as we don't want to suggest a b450 board for an Intel CPU or an z390 for an AMD.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "PreOrder date on Ryzen 3000?"

  • 17 days ago
  • 1 point

I still would not recommend pre ordering any PC hardware. Always wait for benchmarks to see how good it is first. Remember RTX card launches? I have heard of people who had GTX 1080 cards pre order the RTX 1070 card only to find out that the RTX card was not actually an upgrade at all. Restocking fees suck on returning.

Of course all the rumours are looking great for 3rd gen Ryzen but it is not like you are going to save a ton of money on a pre-order. Since the release is on July 7th there likely will be benchmarks out on them within the same day as launch if not the next day. By then you will know if that is an optimum option price to performance for your nephew.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "My old setup had a G4560+MSI rx 470. I have now acquired a used AMD rx 480 and i5-6400. Which CPU & GPU combo would be the most optimal for me?"

  • 17 days ago
  • 1 point

Well that is assuming vram usage is not going over the card limit. If both cards are 4gb then there is no reason to use the 470. Though games that use more than 4gb of vram usually need a more powerful GPU anyhow than the 480. Also none of those games you listed needs more than 4gb of vram either.

In almost all cases there is a power difference between each tier of GPU in a particular series. For example you would not expect a GTX 1060 to perform close to a GTX 1070 or a RX 560 to match a RX 570. Manufacturers make the GPUs in different tiers to sell off so they make them to be different from each other or else the other has no reason to exist.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "My old setup had a G4560+MSI rx 470. I have now acquired a used AMD rx 480 and i5-6400. Which CPU & GPU combo would be the most optimal for me?"

  • 17 days ago
  • 1 point

The RX 480 is ~ 15% faster and that much is worth the change from aesthetics. Think of it this way, what is more important to you? The looks of the PC or the looks of your games? I for one would not sacrifice performance for aesthetics.

Though on a side note I found this thread a little ironic because my HTPC hooked up to my TV now is using a pentium G4600 and a RX 470 too lmao.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Noctua NH-L9i vs Intel i3 9100F"

  • 17 days ago
  • 1 point

Well the stock cooler that comes with the CPU should keep the CPU within the safe temps for operation. People often like to change the cooler for aesthetics or noise reasons but it is up to you. Now is there a very limited room for a CPU cooler? If you have room to fit a budget tower cooler there are lots of options in the $25-$30 range that does a better job cooling.

The l9i is designed to replace the basic Intel stock cooler but provide lower noise and a bit better performance. It takes up a bit less room than the stock cooler so it is for very space tight builds like in a super tiny HTPC case.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "My old setup had a G4560+MSI rx 470. I have now acquired a used AMD rx 480 and i5-6400. Which CPU & GPU combo would be the most optimal for me?"

  • 17 days ago
  • 1 point

The i5-6400 only turbos up to 3.3ghz while the g4560 is 3.5 GHz so a difference of 200mhz. Keep in mind the i5 is 4 actual cores instead of 2 cores with hyperthreading so in any game that can use more than 2 cores (almost all do) will better benefit from the i5 over the pentium despite the 200mhz clock difference.

As for GPUs this is more cut and dry, the RX 480 and 470 are from the exact same GPU generation and the 480 is the higher model. It is the clear winner.

Also both the i5-6400 and the g4560 can be used in the same motherboard too so if you just got the chip and GPU together and nothing else you can use it in your existing motherboard.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Is this a good deal or am I missing something?"

  • 17 days ago
  • 1 point

Amazon is the listed seller so I doubt it is a scam. If it turns out it is not as advertised you can return for full refund with amazon's return policy. You can check the seller by clicking "1 new from ..." link below the price.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/offer-listing/B07D97JWDR/ref=dp_olp_new?ie=UTF8&condition=new

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Don't purchase from PC outlet"

  • 18 days ago
  • 2 points

Yeah that does suck to not get any cables to use your monitor and I can feel your pain. I bought myself a new monitor this year too a 144hz g-sync compatible freesync display but it at least came with 2 cables, the power cable and an HDMI cable. The power cable it uses is the exact same one that plugs into a standard PSU so it is a very easily replaceable one but I have seen some displays need a special power brick to power and that is much harder to replace. Also in order to use the G-sync compatible freesync on a nVidia GPU you NEED to have it on displayport to use so I had to buy one of those cables separately.

Though this story made me remember why I never shop from Best Buy anymore. I pre ordered WotLK World of Warcraft expack from them online once and they did charge my credit card for it. A week before expack launch they canceled my order and never told me but the reason it was canceled was that it wasn't in stock (duh.. pre order). They also never refunded me either and this is where the real issues I had began.

I checked in a day or so before launch to ensure everything was okay and found out what happened. I asked why I was never notified and they had some BS answer which I don't fully remember. I did ask about my refund and they said it was company policy that they are not able to refund software. I refused to pay for something that I never got and after a long debate on the phone and then speaking with a supervisor they agreed to give me a refund with a 25% "restocking fee". Unacceptable. I had to call my bank and have them do a chargeback for the full amount. After that I got a call back from Best Buy demanding I re-pay the order so I told them to sue me. No judge would take that case because they have no right to charge me.

That is a royal screw up from a company and why I refuse to buy from "Best Try" ever again.

If you do have missing cables you may want to try to call the manufacturer and see if they might be able to send you the missing parts.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Is it worth it?"

  • 18 days ago
  • 1 point

Try 1.25v to start. If the system is stable then lower it a step and test again. If the system is not stable increase it a step and retest. The goal is to find the lowest stable voltage for the clock speed target you want to hit. I would highly recommend to never go over 1.4v and if it can't get stability for the targeted clock by that voltage then you may need to lower the clock rate. If lucky you might be able to hit 4.0 GHz.

The other part to consider is thermals. CPU max 100% load temps I like to see at 80c or lower for long term use. If you see a split second spike of 85-90c before it drops right back to 80c then you can generally ignore those. Idle temps do not matter as much as max thermals. Prime95 is great for pushing a true 100% load as games do not do that.

Auto voltage sometimes can add more voltage than needed and the 2 things that can hurt a CPU long term is voltage and heat. Degradation is a thing that can happen to a CPU and I have seen that happen before. Generally degradation is not a worry if voltages are kept in check and the CPU doesn't run long periods of time near thermal max of 100c.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Is Intel i9-9900 good"

  • 18 days ago
  • 1 point

I don't care if somebody "needs" that extra 1% performance, it's idiotic.

Yeah but there are people out there who will pay double the price for that added 1% performance and it is their money so it is their choice. Some people want the best and don't care if they have to light money on fire for it. I wish I had money like that lmao.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Western Digital - SN750 250 GB"

  • 19 days ago
  • 1 point

i am looking for read writes from some 1 other than wd spec sheets

Hence why I linked a tomshardware review instead of the WD site. Tomshardware also listed the IOPS which is an important factor when considering SSD speeds. Transfer rates are great and everything but the ability to locate and start pulling a ton of small files is also important when you plan on loading windows/programs/games off the drive. That is what really set SSDs apart of HDDs for loading speeds.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Is it worth it?"

  • 19 days ago
  • 1 point

Yeah I know this is the CPU forums but people post in the wrong forums all the time. For example question about adding more ram in the storage forums right now. But I do agree more information would be helpful for us to help OP better. I suspected ram because why tell people the ram specs and next to nothing on the CPU when you need CPU help?

From looking at that error people do get that when OCing the CPU and not using enough voltage to make it fully stable. So what I would like to know if this is actual CPU overclocking is the clock rate of the CPU, voltage applied, and CPU temps OP is getting so far with that.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Western Digital - SN750 250 GB"

  • 19 days ago
  • 2 points

https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/wd-black-sn750-ssd,5957.html

250GB model:

  • Sequential Read 3100 MB/s
  • Sequential Write 1600 MB/s
  • Read IOPS 220k
  • Write IOPS 180k
  • Endurance 200 TBW
  • warranty 5 years

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Is it worth it?"

  • 19 days ago
  • 1 point

Since he is listing timings+voltage+speed of his ram I take he may be talking about overclocking ram instead of the CPU.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "How many monitors do you use on your home and/or work computer"

  • 19 days ago
  • 3 points

For my home PC I have the same use mostly for my 2nd display but I got dual 1080p screens. Main is 144hz freesync and 2nd is 60hz and very basic.

I work in an inbound call center as a customer service rep and I also get dual monitor as well. We have our main tool for managing most of what we need to do but we also have a program that manages the phone and other programs we use to track things in. We simply do not have enough screen real estate on a single screen for all that so we split it between 2 screens.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Raspberry Pi 4!"

  • 19 days ago
  • 1 point

I only wish they had a built in sata based m.2 as those are far better than a microSD card for a boot device. Though I guess power is a concern and adding a DC jack and a built on power supply for a 12v or so power brick would make it more expensive.

The other part I am curious about is how well would it work for a basic desktop replacement. Say if I got the 4GB ram version would it be possible to load windows 10 or linux on it and use it for basic internet and media streaming use? I know that the Pi3 struggled with that and youtube for example had a really hard time playing on it. The faster CPU and HEVC support should make a huge difference with that.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "ADDING RAM"

  • 19 days ago
  • 1 point

Generally for speeds I would suspect it should run at the speed of the lowest performing sticks in the board. Say if OP has 2x8GB @ 2666 and buys 2x16gb @3200 it would all run at 2666. I don't ever recall seeing separate ram speed controls per channel in a motherboard bios.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Amd A10-5800K vs. Amd A8-5800K"

  • 19 days ago
  • 1 point

Even the athlon 200ge is a better CPU than either of those. I would look for a used i3 or i5 2000 series or higher if you can find a low enough price as Thinshaw18 stated. Now as a question what is this budget build going to be used for? Is it for basic web browsing and watching videos on youtube/netflix/etc? Is gaming something you are looking to do? If so what games?

If you are planning on using another video card instead of the igpu and you happen to live near a microcenter than one thing I can suggest is see what in store deals they have. You might be able to get a good priced r5 1600 and motherboard which will be far better for gaming in the long run over any of the 2 or 4 core CPUs. Sure it may cost a bit more but it will be a far better value.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Speakers"

  • 19 days ago
  • 1 point

I suppose "Filling a room" with music has lots of room for interpretation. I got a set of Logitech X-530 5.1 speakers with my PC now and even at half volume they are loud enough you can't have a conversation in the same room without yelling at each other. I would consider that "filling a room". Those speakers are only a max of 70w. If you can get 200w+ of power (not saying it is practical with those speakers you have) that would be ridiculously loud. The room I am referring to is the first floor of my townhouse. Mostly open floor from the livingroom to kitchen. I also don't like turning it up too much as I am in a townhouse and I try to be considerate to neighbours.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "PrimoCache vs HDD"

  • 20 days ago
  • 1 point

I will test that when I have more time, I got an Intel 660p NVMe SSD and that should be a good test. I should have time this weekend on sunday to do so.

I doubt I could fill such a drive up

True and that is a consideration as from what I can figure this is not for everyone. Many people will be best served by a 500gb or 1tb SSD with today's prices over using this kind of solution. This would be more for someone who needs over 2TB of storage when they got a massive steam library and a ton of large games and wants them all installed at once. Of course other people can install their most played 10 or so games and be fine with 1TB.

TBH what really drove me to test this was the fact I found that SSD for $20 CAD and wanted to see what I could do with it lol.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Raid nvme m.2 ssd"

  • 20 days ago
  • 1 point

Home users are not always raid 0. There are people at home that run a NAS or a plex server for media so they can store all their videos and watch it on their TV or other network attached devices. In cases like that depending on the number of drives they would usually use RAID 1/5/6/10 as for data redundancy. Others absolutely don't want to lose data so they may raid 1 for reliability but my big warning is still backup anyways. Backblaze is a good option to pair with self backups.

Raid 5 and 6 are awesome if you got 3 to 8 HDDs in a NAS server. Raid 5 keeps one drive worth of data for redundancy so if you lose one drive you don't lose any data and raid 6 is for 2 drive redundancy. 8 drives in raid 6 will have 6 drives of capacity and if you lose up to 2 drives at once you don't lose any data no matter which 2 drives they are. You are not really getting much speed with that especially when compared to SSD speed but it is more than fast enough for storing a ton of video.

The speed of NVMe SSDs today like the samsung pros is crazy fast. Sata SSDs are still really good today and is fast enough for the vast majority of home users. Just keep in mind the actual speed difference between SATA ssd vs NVMe ssd feels much smaller in actual use loading programs and such than the speed difference from a HDD to sata SSD. Going from a 3-5 minute windows boot time to 15-20 seconds is a larger difference then going from 15-20 seconds to 10-15 seconds.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "ADDING RAM"

  • 20 days ago
  • 2 points

and besides being plagued by boils, sores and demons and damning myself and any offspring for seven generations to hell for committing a mortal sin, not an issue to speak of.

That gave me a good laugh lol.

As for mismatched ram sizes it only matters if you are trying to run them in dual channel. In a 4 ram slot consumer motherboard you have 2 separate dual channel slot sets. They are not the same for every motherboard so do check the manual. My AB350m Pro4 board however is like this: 12 - 21 - 32 - 41 for the dual channel slots. Slots 2 and 4 is for first memory channel and slots 1 and 3 are the second. If I put in an 8gb stick in slot 4 and a 16 GB stick in slot 2 I would not be able to run dual channel. If I run 2x16GB in slots 1+3 and 2x8gb in slots 2+4 then each pair of ram will run dual channel and run just fine as GeorgeReorgeRartinMartin stated. Again your motherboard may have it different than mine so check the manual.

Though this ram question should be in the memory forums instead of the storage forums. Ram isn't dealing with HDDs or SSDs.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "PrimoCache vs HDD"

  • 20 days ago
  • 1 point

Although the license for the PrimoCache software is $29.95 and while it might be cheaper, I dunno a lot of folks seem adverse to buying utility software. Arguably with the way SSD's have been dropping in price that $29.95 can take you from a 120GB SSD to within a few dollars of a 500GB SSD.

Yeah I thought about that as well as for costs I would still think a 1TB SSD would be a better than buying a 120gb ssd+program+HDD but if someone needed more storage 2TB or more for games this might be a more viable option. This is why I wanted to test it.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Dark Rock"

  • 20 days ago
  • 1 point

Well if the ram is to tall to fit under the fan or if it is fancy RGB ram that you want to see and you must put it in the first ram slot then due to how the dark rock 4 is designed you can simply move the fan to the other side in pull config. The cooler comes with 1 fan but is compatible to install one on each side.

I got the Dark Rock pro 3 myself and the from intake fan for sure covers the first ram slot on my board but I use vengeance LPX low profile ram and it fits under the fan with some room to spare.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Non k cpu overclocking (i5 6600k vs i5 6400)"

  • 20 days ago
  • 1 point

Perhaps but there are better value CPUs out today already. At least by the 7th we can see benchmarks on the higher CPUs which will give us something to base the actual performance gain of the chips will be.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "3600X or i5 9600K"

  • 20 days ago
  • 1 point

3rd gen Ryzen release date is july 7th. There likely won't be benchmarks before then.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "3600X or i5 9600K"

  • 20 days ago
  • 1 point

Hopefully we will have benchmarks in about 2 weeks time.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Non k cpu overclocking (i5 6600k vs i5 6400)"

  • 20 days ago
  • 1 point

Considering that is several generations old hardware I would not really be buying that today. Ryzen 3 is meant to release around july 7th a couple weeks away so I would wait and see how those turns out. It may be cheaper to get a much more modern 4 core CPU or 6 core CPU than what you were looking at and get better performance than the 6600k.

Also to answer your question some z170 boards (not sure if that is one of them) if you can find the original bios from skylake release you might be able to increase the base clock on a locked Intel to overclock it slightly. As for the multiplier you will not be able to adjust that for the CPU.

I would still recommend to get at least a 6 core CPU with gaming these days as more and more games are using more than 4 cores and the r5 1600 beats the i5-7600k in games that can use more than 4 cores. Games that use 4 cores or less does get better performance on the faster clocked 4 core though. Check out this video from Hardware Unboxed that tested that.

I would suspect the stock speeds suggested on the 3rd gen ryzen 6 core CPUs even with no IPC gain over 2nd gen (AMD promised 15%) it should have a huge advantage over the 4 core i5 CPUs.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Is Intel i9-9900 good"

  • 21 days ago
  • 1 point

I totally agree that the R7 2700 or 2700x is a far better value than the 9900k. The cost hike for the 9900k is a larger hike than what you get in performance. My argument is how will 3rd gen ryzen compare to Intel before you consider costs. I consider that because sometimes people will pay the premium cost for a slightly better performing part. There is a chance it may match or beat it but even if it doesn't and the gap is far smaller it would definitely be a killer value at MSRP pricing.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Overclock or Not"

  • 22 days ago
  • 1 point

I know, that is why I suggested to use XFR 2.0 as that is a feature of the 2nd gen Ryzens.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Overclock or Not"

  • 22 days ago
  • 1 point

For the GPU Toms Hardware outlines that when overclocking you can get some gain but power usage skyrockets. It can gain ~20% performance according to their tests but at double the power draw. Though that vega is about as powerful as the GTX 1070 ti so if you are gaming at 1080p 144hz the stock speed of that card should have no issues at that resolution. If running a 1440p (more than 60hz) display if you don't mind the extra power usage then sure you can OC to better handle your display. I use a GTX 1070 (non ti) myself and it runs a 144hz 1080p screen and does really well on that when not overclocked.

As for the CPU if gaming is all you are using it for use the XFR 2.0 as it should auto OC depending on thermals and does so per core. As stated before per core turbos on XFR sometimes hits higher than you can manually OC all cores too and that may be more beneficial to games. If it was a K skew intel I would wholeheartedly agree to overclock to a minimal of the max single core boost to all cores as Intel overclocking is not like AMD overclocking.

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