That wasn't there when I posted this. I checked the main page a couple times to be sure lol
umm... "How it works: Create your part list with a CPU, CPU Cooler, Motherboard, Memory, Storage, Video Card, Case, and Power Supply. The Motherboard and Video Card must be MSI components." I mean... its right there.
You contact them through their email support, or call them.
Dark souls 3 will run max 60fps on a gtx 970 or R9 390, I have the R9 390, max settings 1080p, 50hours of play so far, and never once have I seen my fps anything other than 60. save the money if you just want to play dark souls 3.
I would say you should have gotten separate 2x4 modules to save money since they don't need to be tested for quad channel compatibility when skylake only uses dimms.... however somehow it is cheaper for this ram to be purchased 4x4gb. Obviously you also wanted it for the looks :P
Probably could have gone with non-reference model 980 with a better heatsink as there is enough room for airflow with this mobo and case, however those 980ti will be great if you play on adding more (which probably isn't a great idea with 3 way sli issues vs 2way)
Good part choices, Power supply is super overkill, there also might be better options price/performance wise for a 1200 if you got it with the intention of having a third/forth card in sli.
Overclock this $hit! Skylake processors are super easy to push to 4.5ghz. You could easily hit even 4.9-5.0ghz with a 240mm rad (if interested in the future.) There is a pretty good overclocking guide @ http://www.overclock.net/t/1570313/skylake-overclocking-guide-with-statistics
Is that really how this motherboard has its dimms setup? Pretty sure thats wrong.
Edit: Also why samsung pro over evo? they have the same performance with the evo costing much less.
Its not overkill if he plans on doing any programming and sets up 16gb as a ram drive for faster compiling on any projects. same goes for any video editing, photo editing, ect. However I kinda sorta doubt hell use it for this considering the description. For a normal person though, ya, 200% overkill.
Makes sense if you already had the 2x4. I thought you bought them both at the same time. I like using giant air coolers rather than all in one loops (air coolers are more reliable in the long run as alot of all in obe loops fail 2-3 years down the road) and using those giant air coolers, i never actually see my memory :P but i definatly understand buying for aestetics :P
Yea i hope they will implement it soon, been waiting for a while. Its especially useful when your making custom cases.
Power supply is a little overkill.... I'm guessing you choose 850 so you can SLI in the future if needed/wanted.
Would have gone with a single dimm, like this one:
That way you can double the memory in the future if needed, + the cas latency is lower and frequency is higher. all for only 8$ more.
still nothing to really cmplain about.
I just bought fallout, as it was on sale :P. I have played for about 3 hours and have had no issues, running at ultra with some mods and running with x8 antistrophic & low antialiasing. So far always at 60fps, one exception was looking at shawn in his crib. I don't know why, but frames dipped during this part however not during concord death-claw fight, was solid 60fps.
Are... Are you not using the first pci-e lane for your graphics card because of the ****** cpu power cable?
If this person trolling? "I even put it threw a stress test, and haven't even looked into OverClocking"
I think your looking for one of these.
Just confirmed it with someone else, As long as you choose a motherboard that has the bios to overclock, you can still do this exploit. He did it with an i3 and asrock motherboard.
I actually don't have fallout 4 atm for pc. I originally went to buy it during a steam sale and my because of an issue with my bank I couldn't purchase it. steam support is garbage so they couldn't help me, so out of stubbornness I am waiting until the next steam sale :P
I would give up with actual proof. not opinion. Thats how I am. Read all the articles, all the links you posted. I also triple check my crap before posting. I do make mistakes but so far I haven't seen anything that makes this overclocking exploit "dead" or a reason not to do it if I can. I am glad you started this back and forth because it forced me to realize I need to make changes to get this working at the very least being a motherboard.
You really need to research more, at this point your giving me some false information. Here is a list of people overclocking with skylake. http://www.overclock.net/t/1570313/skylake-overclocking-guide-with-statistics Its less common for people NOT to reach 4.5ghz They either a) stop because they had a goal and reached it, b) they don't have proper cooling for the overclock, c) their power supply has terrible ripple suppression or d) they got Unlucky. Heres a video with some non-k overclocking for you: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TqWNyhjhE6I
Intel has never liked overclocking. If you want to be spoon fed their bs, eat up, you will perpetuate this misconception. They want you to buy the K processors to MAKE MONEY, and I understand that from a business standpoint with really no other competitors at the same performance (Sorry amd :( < much better prices though) that is also the reason why the "K" processors cost more. This sales tactic is evident from their reports of lackluster sales in computer hardware and the use of cheaper materials like their crappy thermal past on the IHS. The life time on these processors are crazy long. All of these motherboards have options from reducing ram speed.
After all of this I have to ask: Have you actually overclocked a computer before?
Obviously I'm not going to change your opinion, but its not a bad idea. Its a cheap processor that when overclocked a) stays within thermal limitations, and b) performs at the same single core performance of an i7. and c) a strong single core performance is what is most needed for a game as most games don't take advantage of multi-core processors and hyper-threading. Because of the unique advantages of skylake you can basically push ANY processor EASILY to 4.5ghz. I have 4.7ghz on my current cpu and its cooler isn't as powerful as this one. Also side note, many people overclock already with a mix of multiplier and blck it is an exploit but its not hurting the processor.
As for rolling back I can't see there being any issue unless it was with the motherboard. So if you did your research and found that the bios was stable without issues, you could roll back without it having any issues at all. Is this motherboard stable and has no issues with the overclockable bios version? I'm not sure and that's something I will defiantly look into. I guess that will definatly help for this build guide :)
Edit: I'll probably have to find a different mb, this one doesn't seem to have a bios update for overclocking.
From what i'm reading in these links as well: All I have to do is use the bios version that allows the overclocking. The motherboard on this part list is not new so it will come with an older version of the bios, and I "Assume" (not completly sure of course) like how msi keeps previous bios updates (everyone that was ever released for a board) that I could find a bios update from gigabyte that allowed overclocking on this board. That said, will there be anything that physically would change on newer a non-k processor to prevent this overclocking?
If nothing changed with the processors all I have to do is never update my bios to continue overclocking?
Quote from PCWorld: "Intel’s microcode update apparently hasn’t been issued yet, but it’ll likely be given out to motherboard vendors who will integrate the update into BIOS updates. That probably means those who are using the exploit now could keep rolling it—if they never update the BIOS."
Edit: apparently I would possibly not be able to update windows if I did this as well as apparently from a comment on the article intel incorporates a micro-code update through windows to cause a bsod on startup... if thats true.
This site says otherwise for overclocking: http://overclocking.guide/gigabyte-z170-non-k-overclocking-guide/
Can't get the H7 in canada. :P damn cryorig doesn't ship outside of usa. I knew asrock, I was just kinda hoping other brands would follow suite... Know if you can still overclock with asrock boards?
Going raid 0 will give you even faster speeds. Should really overclock your cpu. Every skylake cpu can easily hit 4.5 with that kind of cooling. I'm pushing 4.6ghz on i5 6600k with air cooling and solid temps. Good parts. Good wiring comes from patience, time and zipties.
Holy cow! overkill psu! I was going to say, okay he'll get two cards in sli/Xfire but you don't even have 1 card.
Why pro over evo? I'm pretty sure the evo and pro have the basically the same speeds and While only having 5 year warranty vs 10 (Which both are very long) it a HUGE difference. Evo currently 308$ at newegg vs pro currently 426 at newegg. Thats alot of extra cash in your pocket for something that you won't need for 5 years. Hell, the interest you could make alone on the savings over 5 years lol.
Not just a bit overkill. At least hell be able to run two desktops with 16gb if he used vmware? It would be good for playing games with friends I guess. (Playing games with friends in real life? Is that a thing? jk)
Don't start this. You know where a positive/negative argument will go. It is his choice for positive vs negative vs neutral
I don't see any leds. needs both leds and water cooled :)
It also needs to be led lit and water cooled. lol
I also think you really should have gone with 2 sticks of ram, Dual channel would have given you much better performance. and with that matx board you would still have been able to put a different type of ram in the future in dual channel mode when needed. If you bought it local and can return without any issues I would change it. You can't simply add another of the same type of ram in there to make it dual channel, they are sold in pairs for a reason.
Whatever you want to do, I just don't think you'll be chipping paint and it happening to fall into your USB port lol. You know the world hates you when....
Always read the reviews for all parts before you buy. That Power supply will perform very well, just keep in mind that the quality is pretty bad which makes sense at the price point. keep your fingers crossed you got a good unit.
I also would have just gone with Intel Core i5-4690K, I know its 35$ more but you do have a z97 chipset board already. At some point you have to say no more right? lol
Why didn't you paint the black plastic around the front IO? I have had this case before and you can take it apart if that was something you were actually interested in. Plus Thermaltake would replace it if anything bad ever happened for like 10$ plus shipping.
All we need now is a super impressive cardboard box case... Where it actually has drive mounts, side panels etc.
Sony & Microsoft have the same amount of cache for the Xbox 1 & PS4 as this processor has. 0 L3, 2x2 L2. I don't think performance differences, as minor as they are, warrants a 50-100$ cpu upgrade for with L3 and without. This processor would be perfect for gaming at this level of performance.
Do you still have the adata drive? I fixed my sssd in the past by reflashing the firmware. sucks still :P
Have you had bad luck with adata? I've never used their ram, however the ssd I had never gave me issue for my laptop I used it with. Obviously there are better performers but these were cheap.
Can we have a gigabyte sweepstake now?
This is why the contest should have been 2 random winners :P. The entire contest isn't really about who can build the best computer for 2000$ using msi parts, but who promote their build the best through social media.
Yep, and it will remain that way until I have installed my leds :)
Its actually a monitor sized TV. At least they advertise it as a tv, I love it, it was cheap, 1080p and I have used 3D a bunch of times, it works well, just wish it had more than just 2 hdmi ports. The speakers sound like your standard cheap tin speakers, but I use my surround sound so It doesn't really matter to me.
From canada, Where I live its currently -35 degrees outside celcius or -31 Fahrenheit. Can't paint any time soon.
In the completed build section, the paragraph width is more narrow compared to the forum. I tried it, its way longer on the completed build page. Plus I'm going to be adding more to this page
Deadpool would indeed love this color combination :)
I JUST CAN'T STOP :'( Ohh wait my transactions on steam arn't processing, nevermind I can stop. (not by choice)
Do I get to keep the chair you hit me with if I don't? I'll post pictures of the finished cable management once I get my sweet sweet leds
I also call this the wallet drainer. Ill save money over time though :P
I'm mostly referring to the issue with the issue for the xbox 360 where the first gens had such a huge rate of failure, Some people have bought more then 1 console. I for example have had 4 xbox 360's over the life of that console. If you think about the saving over always getting the next console, its about the same. (New xbox and playstation are announced already)
If you bought 4 PS4's Then this would still outperform each one. This computer will also last me years, I will be able to upgrade what I need and I should be able to dual boot into mac os, additionally this computer can use multiple monitors like having 4 ps4's :P and I will only need one device, rather than 2. Do I really need to list all the benefits of having a good gaming computer? I will write you an article lol.
That mostly depends where you live, in some places like Toronto or ottawa some people host them as frequent as once a month or even once a week. Its just for playing multiplayer games together. I went to many at my college and its why my newest computer is using the corsair 380t so I can take it around easier, not the smallest case, but it works and looks nice.
just because you can lug it over doesn't mean they'd let you take up that much space. Plus you can't really just hold it in with one hand and the computer with another. Unless you have like freakishly long arms. or are really tall.
Other then picture... You can take it with you to a lan party? I'd like to see you try bringing that 40" with you. lol