honestly though, I thought for a while that when the bitcoin days were still prevailing, pc part prices weren't gonna drop, they grew so inflated that I thought we were gonna wait yearrrsssss to get things back up and running again to an equilibrium
Here's the part listing:
MAN have times changed, I got this ram at 60 to 70 bucks back then, now it's at 40
Intel Chip boost; it ran normally at 2.7 GHz. In-game I would see a higher boost.
Recently spoke with one of their representatives and he sounded cool and etc; however, they do not seem like a professionally organized company. If their repair and "RMA" services are chaotic, then how am I supposed to trust that their products aren't under the same disorganized influence? Just a thought. Also, Dominicc, thank you for the support! I will make sure this build comes back better than I even intended it to be!
Beautiful, thank you for the examples of different PSU's, I will make sure to pick up a much better one!
Contacted it 4 times, I just finished class and am going to call it immediately! Thank you, Tetsuclaw!
I gotcha lol
SURE AS HELL DON'T lol
Gotcha, will take that into account! Thank you!
A lot of KOTH, I played on the capture the island games with the 707 group (I think they're called). Codefourgaming took a lot of my time!
Thank you for the info Sean, I will do exactly that!
I took many, many pictures! The problem is that I'm using an old sd card reader and it doesn't always like to work or upload many images at a time so I'm waiting for a new one to come in!
Exactly, lol me neither!
I hope, no responses to anything I've sent their way!
Low cost, high risk of failure was what I was going for lol
Thank you so much, aqua!
EVGA is a definite yes! Right on, bengy!
PNY makes a realll nice card; yet, they make blower-styled cards so it may get a lil' toasty in your build!
I have tried to notify Msi on 23 different occasions with no responses to a single one of them.
My psu has done really well for the type and cost held; however, it is likely due the the area the fire arose
Comprendo ahahaha note taken
Thank you man!
Thank you for the background info! Awesome to see another person's experience with this issue :)
Gotcha! Thank you for the information man! Turns out it was mispriced by accident :)
Wow! That's surprising; although, I do see that you're pushing for the most cutting-edge performance --basically-- humanely possible. Have you tried the Titan XP? It's a very expensive card; however, with a budget for a 2080 Ti, you wouldn't be going wrong there. Let me know how those tests go with that card, I'm interested to see how it performs from a source that isn't either marketing or a paid sponsor :)
The day you get that 2080Ti, do a firestrike immediately and see how it scores. In case you don't know what firestrike is --although I'd figure you do since you're testing-- It'll test how your GPU runs & renders data, images, games and test its performance.
Also, I would be a little worried about that $1500 GPU, I heard that it' not really meant for games as much as it is a graphics production and visual design card.
Hold your horses there, no 2080 Ti w/o a new mouse, because I could've sworn I just saw the default gamer mouse for $15 on Amazon on that desk! Can't be running around with the best possible specs with the worst possible peripherals, am I right? Go grab a FinalMouse whenever one becomes available, they go out of stock instantaneously for a reason, they're around $60 - $90 each, I think :)
Found out somebody accident posted the price super higher, I was gonna say lol, why not sell that one and then buy 3 normal ones lol
May I ask, why did you get the Palit Gtx 1060? Is there something that justifies it's $981.65 price tag compared to models with a price of $279.99 with almost the exact same core, and boost clock speeds? Was your graphics card priced differently when you first made your build?
May I ask, why did you get the Palit Gtx 1060? Is there something that justifies it's $981.65 price tag compared to models with a price of $279.99 with almost the exact same core, and boost clock speeds? Was this GPU priced differently when you made your build around 22 months ago?
May I ask, why did you get the Palit Gtx 1060? Is there something that justifies it's $981.65 price tag compared to models with a price of $279.99 with almost the exact same core, and boost clock speeds????
One thing I may add is that your Gpu isn't be utilized to the best GHz for the price. What I'm trying to say is that you're overpaying for performance. https://pcpartpicker.com/product/j8tWGX/evga-geforce-gtx-1060-6gb-6gb-ssc-gaming-video-card-06g-p4-6267-kr This superclocked 1060 is $299 and has a higher core clock speed as well as higher boost clock speed. Just something to consider :)
No problemo! One thing that I'm sad to see is that you're paying $314 for a 1060 that's not even OC... those pesky bitcoin miners and their fluctuation of the market tisk tisk
Slow Clap +1 Nicely done dixonerfais, you pulled ahead and made a build that got me commending people's masterpieces once again, so kudos to you. Now, forget about myself, let's talk about the build. The Cpu, Gpu, Ram, Psu, Case, Storage, Rog Monitor, Headset, and completely, crystal-clear Water-cooled Loop are perfect pieces of hardware that I couldn't have pulled together better myself. Your loop is pristine with the entirety of it going back an forth through the overkill 1080Ti, all the way inside of your mobo (which is crazy on its own let alone every other aspect of the computer), and through that beautiful 5.2 GHz Cpu. The 8086k is the perfect chip for any enthusiast builder, and let me tell you: you are an enthusiast builder. The fact that you threw in a whopping 12 Corsair LL 120mm RGB fans is another show-stopper on its own, too. The build wouldn't be the same without the stark Lian-Li tower. The way the components come together in a perfectly orchestrated harmony is stellar! What else is there to say! Just absolutely beautiful. Well done, bravo!
So far so good, I would like to mention that you should change those deep cool fans to the same NZXT ones you already have. You don't have to change the CPU if you don't want to since I can tell you probably won't want to overclock your CPU (it's hard and not worth the time if this is one of your first builds). You should definitely change the RAM sticks to the ones I showed you, even though, yes, RGB is cool, but you're gonna save a lot of money and you'll be able to utilize that money for RGB strips if you wanted to, or a new desk and gaming chair or new mouse and keyboard and other stuff that's after the fact. Also, change that graphics card to this one: https://www.amazon.com/Gigabyte-AORUS-GeForce-Graphic-GV-N108TAORUS-11GD/dp/B074PL43GQ?th=1 This card is less expensive and performs better (it's pre-overclocked for you and has extremely high speeds, higher than the one currently in there). I showed you American pricing for that card, let me know if you're not able to purchase that for $679.99
Also, do not worry about your fps or the settings for games when you build the computer in either of our configurations, the computer will always (if it's an in-game feature) set any and every game to the highest settings possible.
Most certainly, the fans on the cooler come out with screws and can be reused for the newer fans. To be completely honest with you, stock fans aren't that bad; heck, I still use the stock fans for my case cooling. I think the main concern people have with using stock vs new fans on the cooler is if the fans will be fast enough to keep up with the CPU load and maintain a good temp for the cooling liquid. Either way, if you do get new fans for the cooler, I would definitely suggest you try and use the same NZXT ones that you wanted to put around your case, that way you know that the cooler, case fans, and cooler fans can all work together on the same RGB software that you'll use. Another suggestion for you is that most motherboards don't support that many fans and I don't think either the one you first chose and the one I showed you have support for all 6 and the cooler. In order to combat that, you can purchase a hub that you can plug all the fans into and then have the single hub go into one of the fan inputs on the mother board.
Of course, this computer will perform great! One thing to keep in mind though is that you are wasting a lot of money. Now, you can go ahead and spend $3641.16 on a great build and disregard everything I'm about to say... or you can see what I have to show you that can possibly save you a lot of money (while still having a high performing computer). Keep in mind, anything that isn't the color you want is something that is simple to change and you will have plenty of extra money to customize those changes. Another thing to keep in mind is that I went from what I thought was the most important part down to the least important part (or at least I tried to, somewhat), so my list is out of order with how they're traditionally made on PCPP. Now, let's get into the build.
First off, the CPU. Your CPU is great, don't get me wrong; however, the 2700x benchmarks within the top 10 user-based benchmarked CPUs and another that performs slightly lower than it, yet benchmarks in the top 5 with a $109 cost difference is the AMD ryzen 7 1700 CPU. Here's the comparative benchmark for you to look at http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/AMD-Ryzen-7-2700X-vs-AMD-Ryzen-7-1700/3958vs3917 (What's important is the turbo overclocking when seeing the GHz) So, there's $109 in your pocket.
Now, onto the RAM. Wow, hey I don't blame you for wanting the cool, RGB ram sticks; however, these pesky sticks are the bane of the ram market. These sticks can perform just fine; yet, there are less expensive, higher performing sticks out there. What's the trick? No RGB. Another user-based test bench shows the facts. The Kingston Technology HyperX FURY Black sticks outperform the Trident Zs (theoretically as the Trident Z RGBs aren't listed on the site, but it's non-RGB equivalent is): http://ram.userbenchmark.com/Compare/HyperX-Fury-DDR4-2666-C15-4x8GB-vs-GSKILL-Trident-Z-DDR4-3200-C16-2x8GB/3570vs3550 So, there's another $120 in your pocket (and a better-performing stick) on Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/Kingston-Technology-HyperX-PC4-21300-HX426C15FBK2/dp/B06XNV44R5?th=1.
Again, onto the GPU. Asus makes a mean 1080Ti if I say so myself; on the other hand, there's money to be saved with a higher core clock card! Both the Zotac - GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB Mini Video Card(https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/dHcMnQ/zotac-geforce-gtx-1080-ti-11gb-mini-video-card-zt-p10810g-10p), and the Gigabyte - GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB Gaming OC 11G Video Card(https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/2TgPxr/gigabyte-geforce-gtx-1080-ti-11gb-gaming-oc-11g-video-card-gv-n108tgaming-oc-11gd) are overclocked GPUs. That's right, that means higher performance right out of the box without any effort necessary on your end. Let's do some comparing right here, but first off let's get organized. TO SIMPLIFY Core Clock (Out of box speeds) = CC, Boost Clock (Overclocked speeds) = BC, Cost (What's being taken out of your pocket) = $. Now that we're organized, let's compare some cards. Zotac's 1080Ti: CC-1.51 GHz BC-1.62 GHz $-899.99, Gigabyte's 1080Ti: CC-1.52 GHz BC-1.66 GHz $-869.99, Asus's Strix 1080Ti: CC-1.49 GHz BC-1.63 GHz $-969.99. So, out of all of this data, what did we learn. First, we learned that Gigabyte's card performs the best with the highest core and boost clock speeds alongside the lowest price. Second, we learned that Zotac's card perform's a little bit lower than the Gigabyte card and acts more like a middleman between the Asus and the Gigabyte card with great, but not the best clock speeds and a price that keeps itself competitive. Finally, we learned that the Asus card performed the worst with the lowest core clock speed (of course, it isn't OC stock) and the highest price. The one good thing about the Asus card is that when it is in it's boosted clock, it outperforms the Zotac. In the end, Gigabyte made a perfect competitor to the Strix and comes at the highest possible Boost and Core clock speeds with a price reduction of $99.91. So there's another $99.91 in your pocket (and a much better performing GPU).
Now, I don't need to be critical, but what was going on in your mind when you chose the bequiet PSU?????? $217 for a modular power supply that's bronze rated. https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/y88H99/evga-supernova-g3-650w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-220-g3-0650 Get this, please. Gold rated, 650w (so no power wasted with room for growth, still), and still modular. A reliable PSU, too. EVGA makes a long-lasting power supply, most especially when they're gold rated. So, $104.01 in your pocket (and a much, much better power supply).
Next, the CD Drive. It is 2018, going on 2019, soon. You should never have to pay more than $30 max on a cd drive. $51 for I don't even know, just not okay man. I'm sorry for being so critical on aspects of your build, but I want to instill with you that you need to take more time researching your parts before you spend money on them, because look... you're saving over $400 already and the parts are better (besides the CPU, it's still very high performing nonetheless). https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/2v9KHx/asus-optical-drive-drw24b1stblkbas This is an Asus Cd/Dvd drive. It does its job just as well if not better and is made by a reliable brand with great customer service in case it doesn't perform the way you want it to. So, $27.87 in your pocket.
Your operating system. Windows 10 is great, but you know what's even better and gives you higher performance and options to customize on your computer (for example, add more ram and gain higher core clock speeds on your CPU)? Windows 10 Pro. You win some, you lose some... to upgrade to windows 10 pro you'll spend $46.04 (aren't you happy you have all this extra money to do so, though?)
Your Cpu cooling and case fans... I'm gonna let them be, I won't ruin all the fun in your build or make you have to cut all prices since NZXT does make a very nice fan and water cooler; however, you are wasting a lot of money doing so. Just keep this in mind for later if you want to cut down on the $$$ spent. (UPDATED: It doesn't make a whole lot of sense to have both 3 deep cool and 3 NZXT fans? If you truly need 6 RGB fans, ditch the deep cool ones and get another 3 of those NZXT ones; therefore, you'd save $40, so put $40 in your pocket)
Now, onto your storage devices. Western Digital makes an incredible Black edition hard drive. I have no argument against how cool that thing is; however, you're playing video games, you're not a computer scientist who needs storage in order to save large files from CAD or ai or rendering. You can still have a very, very nice storage solution, this kind of solution doesn't make sense with what you're doing, though. So instead, remove both the HDD Black and the SSD by Samsung since there's a better option than a traditional SSD, too. M.2 and NVMe drives are insanely fast (for this current moment in time lol in 5 or 10 years I'll be laughing at myself since technology just rapidly expands). Ever pee lightning? Well, grab one of these and you'll know what the surge feels like! https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/wd97YJ/samsung-860-evo-1tb-m2-2280-solid-state-drive-mz-n6e1t0bw 550mb/s read/write speeds and a whole lot more with this guy. Also give yourself a hybrid HDD/SSD mix for another Terabyte of unmatched performance: https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/w6x9TW/seagate-firecuda-1tb-25-5400rpm-hybrid-internal-hard-drive-st1000lx015 Altogether, you'll be saving $86.79 and to be entirely honest with you, you don't really need more than the M.2 Evo if you're just gaming, but the hybrid HDD/SSD is still there for all the extra space you need and it saves you tons of money while still being a high performing option. A tip is to put windows and all of your games on the M.2 Drive, as well as the install for google chrome --I'd presume. That way you can maximize the performance of your computer by speeding up boot times, game starting/opening times, the game performance itself, and internet performance. So, put $86.79 in your pocket (and a smarter storage solution).
Thermal Paste... niceeeee. You can keep that, there's normally thermal paste that comes in a little silver packet when you get those CPU water coolers so it's a waste to get this, but hey I did the same thing when I built mine too (sometimes the thermal paste that comes with these products is pretty pathetic/not the best to use), so I don't blame you. One thing you should consider though is that the NZXT water cooler has pre-applied thermal paste on it I THINK so, for now, I won't say you saved any money here, but still, you might be able to.
Moving forward, your case is perfectly fine. Can you save money? Yes. Will this case be more than what you'll need? Yes. Does this give you room for expansion, though? Definitely. When I built my first my computer, I made sure the one part I cared about "looks-wise" was the case, because in the long run what will you be looking at the most (even though it's tempered glass, but I digress)? The case, so it's important to make sure you have one you like and you certainly chose a nice one.
Finally, the motherboard! My god, when I saw all 8 USB 3.0 slots stacked up together I took a double take and that wifi antenna thingy that I know the technical name of, but you know what I mean when I say antenna thingy. Okay, so... for starters, most people don't spend over $200 on their motherboard, but you seem to like to just burn your money so the ROG Crosshair V... would be a great option if not there was a most certainly better option for almost half the entire price. https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/8Wzkcf/msi-x470-gaming-pro-atx-am4-motherboard-x470-gaming-pro Get this and you'll save $187 without any true compromise unless you planned on plugging in 8 keyboards at one time. So, finally, put $187 back in your pocket (and go return 8 extra keyboards to wherever you bought them). Now, one thing to keep in mind is that the ROG motherboard had wireless wifi built in with that antenna... yeah, you know what I mean, so you will have to purchase a wireless network adapter which is not only very inexpensive but will help fill your expansive new computer nicely.
BACON_MAN, I had fun spending the last half hour to hour or so looking at parts for you and hope to see you make something great. just remember, don't purchase something just because it looks cool, because chances are it has to look cool in order for people to buy it and mask its true identity: lack of performance. One thing to take out of this is that when you want to make your own computer, you should be doing some of this research on your own alongside the help you're receiving. One great resource we all have access too (I'm guessing you do since your budget was so huge) is called the internet and that's where you can find reviews, and test benches, and video proof and gameplay/usage of the products you're looking at. You need to make sure you know the inside and out of each component before you make a commitment like this as it's a lot of money to be spending and all it takes is a misunderstanding or simple mistake that could not only set you back time on building the computer, but deem an entire part unusable. In the end, this is your build with your own money, so do whatever you would like as it's your stuff, not mine or anyone else's. Speaking of money, you saved $728.54! Your build would come up to around $2913.62 and there's even more space to save without cutting on performance! I wish you good luck and that the build comes together nicely!
First off, I am very biased to Intel chips over AMD ones as I've had a lot longer history with using them and understand/know their performance over an AMD chip. With that being said, I would recommend the Intel chip as its going to serve you better with "gaming" over the AMD chip. One thing I will say is that the AMD chip would be great if you're trying to make a "workbench" type of build; however, as you've stated above, it seems that you will not be doing anything like CAD, or rendering and rasterizing software-aided designed projects. Overall, I would go with this build: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/9Z7P8Y
One thing to take along with you though is that everyone has an opinion on this website, and those opinions can be very, very one-sided to a specific manufacturer or type of product, even if it isn't the best option or your sake. Like I said earlier, I am biased over an Intel build; however, I had reasoning to back myself up (and, of course, these types of people will try to too). What I'm getting at is that even though it's nice to have help making these kinds of decisions, it is smart to do your own research alongside these opinions in order to not only have transparency in what you are buying, but also knowledge on what you will be building so that you know exactly what you are doing with it when it arrives at your doorstep.
Another beautiful Shift-X Build! +1 I have to say --I have to say-- these shift-x builds look sooooo incredible. I've never seen someone pull a half-a** job on one of these. Give yourself a nice pat on the back sam, because you killed it! I made a build somewhat similar to yours in the aspects of power, storage, and performance. I built my current pc with a 1060, 1tb hdd, air cooling (just for the cpu), and 16gb 3200 ram. I love how you pulled off the same sort of somewhat budgeted build with medium/high tier parts that will altogether last you a long time and perform exceedingly well. I notice the i7 you put into this build and really like how you evened out the overkill aspects to you rig. The components are something that's top notch, but not mainstream overkill like 2 1080's and 64gb ram. Your loop looks beautiful, the color of the liquid finishes off the build with a cherry on top! Overall, I have to say that this build has most certainly had some thought put into it and proudly deserves some +1's. Nice job!
Very niceee. This is a very clean build, I like what you've made man!
My god, what a setup +1 I'm loving this build. Although the images you took weren't of extremely high quality, I noticed all of the details that you had in your setup. The chair looks mmm mmm mmmmmmm mm mmmmmm with that desk that beautifully clashes your floor (nice). The software that you're using matches up great with your components. The 10TB hdd will do great with saving a plethora of your CAD designs and the processor will maximize your rendering speeds as well as your gaming experience. The RAM and GPU pair nicely as a 32gb pair of sticks is plenty for every game on the market and the 1080 can handle any obstacle in it's way. Overall, this build looks beautiful and is one hell of a machine to be using! Nicely done!
Viotek isn't known for having the greatest monitors of all time --literally just their marketing isn't very known too well, not that they aren't good monitors-- (take note I don't own one or ever have); however, this company prices their monitors (like the one above) at a competitive and great price for what's being offered. I will say that it has a 4/5 star review on amazon so I'm just going to assume it's a good monitor with few issues that most likely can be resolved with a warranty.
Comprendo lol, WOOPS