The mobo does have onboard video. What this build guide lacks is a boot drive.
Yes, you can, but you still have to have a boot drive to install it on.
How are we supposed to rename saved parts lists now?
The motherboard's page here on PCPartPicker shows that it has onboard video. The video, then, would becoming from onboard video, rather than from the processor or a graphics card.
Onboard graphics seem to being a dying thing these days, but they do still exist. The ECS board has 'em--Radeon HD3000 according to ECS' website.
It is. My point was basically that it just doesn't matter, really. He can just leave it as is without any noticeable impact.
Out of curiosity, I looked up current RAM pricing. Corsair has some great 2x4 GB RAM @ 67.99 right now. RAM's pricing has gone down since I last did a build.
The impact of performance as a result of RAM speed difference for a non-APU system will be pretty insignificant.
Consider Linus' video on RAM Speed: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWgzA2C61z4
Or JayzTwoCents, if you prefer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yG8HoewIO_s
No, I haven't had even the slightest of issues with the motherboard. I love the MOBO but will have to sell it when I complete the shrink. It goes without saying that its replacement will also be an ASUS board.
If you can go over $200 a little bit, you probably should consider the GTX 760. EVGA's version is $220 on Amazon at the moment.
As for the 16GB--yeah, I chose that 'cause I didn't want to have to do too much in the way of upgrading in the future (but I wanted options to upgrade if I chose to). Ended up having to shrink ray it instead of upgrading.
I love the system and the GTX660 is really great for what it is, but if you're going to be purchasing a new card, it'd probably be better to go with something a little more current, like a 700 or 900 series card.
I'm actually going to have to rebuild this system as a Mini-ITX build pretty quick here--I just bought an EVGA Hadron Air to start the process off. Unfortunately, while the Fractal Design Define R4 is an amazing case, it's just too big for a college dorm room--or for carting around on a plane.
I have the NF-A14s myself in my build, with the LNA. They're quite quiet, and the fact that the motherboard can control them means they can be fully silent if necessary without any fiddling on my part.
Having the same problem with my new build:
It took over twelve hours to show up, and it did, briefly, but it's no longer listed.
Oh, tell me about it. I fought myself for almost a month over whether to put an SSD in the build versus a standard 2.5 in drive. But between the heating concerns and the noise issue, the SSD won out.
Oh, yeah. I forgot about "Monolith". Dumb names, the both of them.
It was just over twenty after fresh install. Not sure if that includes the page file or not.
Heh, thanks, and yeah, it's a challenge to come up with a good name. It seems like over half of the builds on here are "beast" this or "beast" that. Smh.
Nifty colour set. That'll look awesome.
That's a pretty schnazzy name. I like it. It took me quite some time to decide on "Delenn" as the name for my new build. In fact, it took me a very long time, 'cause I still hadn't even named my current one at the time.
That's a pretty nice parts list. I hope to get "Delenn" (my new powerhouse, mentioned in the article) fairly soon, too.
(Parts in that list marked with a $0 price tag are being salvaged from Dukhat)
Ha. Thanks. A cheese grater seemed the closest comparison. XD
I haunted this site and YouTube both looking at every small build I could whilst I was picking the parts. Took a few months, but I feel it was quite worth it.
Ah, then it makes perfect sense that it wouldn't be able. It probably can't under Windows, either, is my guess.
Interesting. Is it a fairly new Pentium 4? Either way, I suppose we can almost certainly identify Intel's Integrated Graphics under Linux as the culprit.
I suspect the Pentium probably could handle it, but I'd be interested to hear your results anyway.
I suspect it's a result of Intel Integrated Graphics in some way. I wouldn't be surprised. I can't complain too much, though: the motherboard & CPU cost $70 together.
Yeah, it's pretty great. I like Ubuntu in particular, but there was just something about the graphics under Ubuntu that the little Celeron did NOT like. Even at ~480p, YouTube videos would turn into slideshows. Under Windows, even at 1080p, the videos play perfectly well. I probably could have found some workaround to make it work properly, but, in the end, I needed Windows for other stuff anyway.
Yup. Had I gone with a mechanical hard drive and Ubuntu, I could have dropped it down to $230. I did play around with the idea some, and even live DVDed it, but I just prefer Windows in the end, especially on a machine that suppose to be serving as a backup for another machine that runs Windows. Office (proper Office) is just too critical for me.
I know, right?
Yeah, the PSU is very low wattage, but, in a way, that was kind of the point. The whole machine at full load theoretically (I don't have the means of testing it) only draws about 26W from the PSU.
That said, with as little electricity as it's using, it's doing really well. Not a stutter to be seen with regular use thus far.
Just finished installing 8.1 on my new build and can confirm that 20GB is accurate.
Love metro myself. It's fast and accessible.
Windows 8.1 has Windows Defender (MSE) built right in. I use it myself and quite like it. It's unobtrusive and resource light.
Windows Defender (MSE) here.
Yeah, the case I have for the build (that I actually have in already) is the Define R4. I'll probably be going with a fairly mild overclock anyway--so it'll all be good.
Considering my current AMD-based build is using the stock cooler, I'm sure a wood shredder would be quieter than what I've got--I'm really glad to hear it's quiet and cool, though. I'd like my new build to be inaudible, if possible.
Thanks again. That cooler must be dead silent if it can run at that low of an RPM and still keep the CPU cool.
Thanks. Curious, though, what did you end-up setting the minimum RPM to?
Thanks for your commentary on the issue the motherboard has with that cooler. I plan to be using that exact combination here shortly--and it will save me time, for sure.
I do, but it doesn't really matter, does it? They work damned well and don't make a lot of noise doing it.
I have that same case--I used it for my first build when I knew jack all about building computers--I despise the thing. I have a Fractal case coming in today to replace it, in fact.
The case sucks to build in, but, it has a rather bad design flaw for people that aren't too tech savvy. That dust filter under the PSU has to be cleaned frequently or it will cook the PSU. With a decent case, the filter would be easy to get at, but with it being inside instead of outside, it's not as obvious or as easy to get at as it should be. I'd give him a heads up or plan to clean it out for him at least once a month, to be safe.
Yeah, USB3 seems to have a mind of its own header-wise--when I built my mum's computer, the damned header must have come out half a dozen times during cable management.
Good to hear the board is good and easy to work with. It's the one I'm leaning toward for my major update build (haven't made any substantial changes to my build since 2010).
Thanks for the info!
How do you like the motherboard? Is the onboard Wifi worth a damn?
If I were you, unless you're desperate for more storage, I'd prioritise scrapping that PSU. I used a TR2 for my first build and it wasn't a pleasant experience. Completely fried and it wasn't even close to drawing its rated capacity. Took the video card out with it.
Does that TV Tuner work reasonably well? I'm considering it for my next build.
It's a DAW. That should answer every last one of your silly questions.
You also mentioned his kids would be playing games on it. RAM that slow murders the potential graphical power of an APU.
Talk about cutting corners.
Or toward faster RAM. I'm amazed to see such slow RAM in an APU build.
Not sure what you're talking about regarding Windows recognising SSDs on install. Just did exactly that when I built my mum's editing rig--without issue. (Windows 8.1)
How does the A6 handle Blu-ray playback? Are you just using Cyberlink?
Not anymore, he doesn't.
How do you like the wireless card? Has it been reliable? Are the drivers good?