Great to see another Silver Q01 on here. Try opening up the top for ventilation, check out mine. You can fit the slim cryorig fan up there. Also, scale down to a SFX power supply to get a bit more room in there.
I am also curious how modding the box would affect performance of such a high wattage CPU!
I have a couple PC's and don't use this one a ton (meaning it is not powered on all that much). Due to RAM prices being so high etc I am waiting for parts prices to come down a bit before I switch it to my main used machine.
That being said, dust does enter the case very easily. I put a dust filter on the fan which helps, but it is very exposed and especially exposed with the top drill out for the fan. I would say, once a month I would blow it out and vacuum the dust off the fans etc. However, enough air moves through that it wont collect big balls of dust. More like a light layer that is visible when you shine an LED flashlight on the parts etc.
I wish I could provide a link for you, but I honestly took it off an old Lian Li PC case I had from around 2008. The case inside has fairly rough edges, so Lian Li put that U-channel edge molding on all the inner metal edges. I just took it off and cut it to size.
Maybe someone else will see your question and be able to point you in the right direction!
The monitors themselves are not mounted, they are just sitting on the shelf itself. Because it is a long picture ledge, there is a notch cut into it where a photo or frame would typically rest. It just so happens to fit the monitors at a good angle and I simply drilled a hole in the middle of it to pass the cables through.
Shelf was from Ikea: Mosslanda 45 1/4" picture ledge $10
Well the Zotac Mini 1080 is listed at 211mm and the official GPU support length is 210mm ...
Gauging from the image on Lian Li's website showing the GPU length, it displays metal to metal (end to end) as 210mm. So, perhaps you could shave off some of the mini 1080 and make it fit ... perhaps it would fit touching/pressing up against the sides of the case?
Seems though that the most practical to fit is the Gigabyte mini 1070 for the most powerful card.
Nice rebuild. I have the same PC as you and find it works well in the standard Dell case but would like to one day rebuild it into a mATX platform.
I assume you tore the inspiron apart and started with a fresh copy of windows 10? No migration of the old os?
This is a great build, glad you were able to overcome the temperature issues and stick with the case! There is some pretty powerful hardware in there.
I would love to see more pictures surrounding the final mods you had to make. I myself chose the silver version of this case and put a 120mm fan up top. I have yet to add a graphics card and may have to adjust the fans once doing so, but temperatures are very low (although the components are lower power in my build).
Thanks for the comments! I was originally going to build a PC and then learned my Windows 7 copy would not transfer once installed to a system. Not wanting to pay Microsoft $100 for a new OS, this pre-built system was a pretty decent deal.
The cables leave much to be desired, and I could spruce it up a bit, however there is not much point. The little 750 works pretty good for the few games I play (starcraft, tropico, civilization). Not too many complaints with how many components come in these systems.
I am guessing by the CPU that you were on Windows 8.1 with the pre-built unit. Did you upgrade to Windows 10? Did you have to re-install windows after changing so much?
Maybe you can elaborate a little bit on that since I didn't read in your description. Would like to know if you were able to retain your windows os/files etc with all these changes.
This is a nice little build! I like how you have it hanging under the desk also.
Did you do any "testing" before and after with the sound dampening foam? I have thought about adding some to my small Lian Li case and was curious if you felt it was worth it or not.
Nice build, welcome to the very small Q01 club on here!
When I built my case I drilled a hole for a top fan, fearing as you do the temps would get out of control once all the components are crammed inside. The temps in my case are similar to yours now, although my 6500 stays a bit below 58c. I imagine putting the graphics card inside will change things considerably down the road (I have yet to put one in mine).
I do however use a GTX 750 in another computer and the amount of load placed on them for photo editing is very small, heat won't be an issue there. But for games or video editing you may run into higher temps than desired.
All in all, keep working with the case!
Yep, it is very stable. I added a few more pics thus far and put another fan down on the bottom.
Right now it is just waiting for a graphics card to play games but I mostly use consoles to be honest. I also have another PC that I use for my main stuff. This was a little side project that I finished too quickly!
Most likely, I will end up with a 1060 6gb in it.
Sorry if I missed it, but can you share where you got that front fan cover from? Looks like what I need.
Appears to be a circular insert that is magnetic with the mesh cover.
Thanks, and great build!
Great system! While fun to have, I am curious if you even hit that swap disk having 32gb of ram already? I used an old SSD as a swap disk as well, however mostly it holds cache files etc.
Well, there are a couple black PC-Q21's on here, it appears there may just be enough space under a graphics card to mount a 12mm slim fan. However, seeing as how close the GPU sits to the floor of the case with a natural fan opening, the fan may or may not have any effect at all. You would have to do some tests.
Placing a fan up-top would do the most good to get the hot air out of the case. This case however is quite slim, so you will be left with about 1/2 inch space on each edge of the case once a 120mm fan is mounted. If I turn my fans to their full RPM, the aluminum panel vibrates like crazy. At standard speeds (between 700-1.000 rpm) there is no vibration. Your case may have more vibrations due to removing so much of the top panel to include the fan.
If you go with one 120mm fan on top, and there is vibration, I would suggest padding the entire upper panel with sound dampening material (I thought of doing this on mine, if the problem arrives later on). Short of that, I don't really know what else you can do. You are attaching a spinning mechanism to aluminum. Tighten the screws tight to get most of the vibration out.
I originally thought about using a slim 92mm Noctua fan and then contemplated using 2 of them to equal the size from the bottom 140mm intake fan. For my case, it worked out that one large fan looked best etc, but you may consider this as an option as well. Stack two of them along the top!
I looked at the PC-Q21 (looked at all the cases Lian Li has on their website actually) and I think there would be a couple problems with that case for the same concept.
1) The bottom fan does have factory supported mounts for a 120mm fan, although the graphics card mounts so low these may touch. The thinnest 120mm I can recall is 15mm and that might not clear a graphics card depending on which one is chosen. You would need to really buy the case and measure the amount of space you would have to work with ... and it may not work.
2) The PC-Q21 case width is 149mm, once you center a 120mm fan up top, it only has about 1/2 inch of aluminum on either side left over. This may cause rattle/vibration noise, but it should work. You would maybe lose the ability to use the DVD tray (if you wanted that).
Is there a reason you chose the PC-Q21 case or want to use it?
I did order a second Cryorig XT140 fan and put it in. It doesn't do much until there is a graphics card but it was cheap-ish so I ordered it and the fan splitter.
Runs great, and will help feed the GPU with fresh air. I updated the pics to show with the fan, should be up now for you to check out.
Hey, we are parts twins "almost!" Nice setup, should be playing tons of games on this.
If you are looking for a longer Sata cable, the only one Corsair will reference/confirm that works with the SF series at present, ironically, is a longer version sata cable from their AXi series systems. It will be a 700mm Type 3 ribbon Sata cable with 4 connectors. Should be just what you need for a longer run to add storage. I bought one for a Dell system I upgraded with an SF450 to run 2 sata cables chains, works flawlessly.
Glad to see you got that 1070 delivered and installed! Have you done any significant/standard tests on performance?
I would be curious to know the difference between having the bottom fan running vs. just opening ventilation (the hole) on cooling performance. Sort of the same on that side mounted fan.
What you are describing with the inner front panel would be possible. It would require rivets and a rivet gun to re-assemble and of course any modification ruins the pre-made SSD/HDD mounts. Once the top/side panel is attached it does cover the gaping from the inner front panel and the front panel itself but does not perform structurally in any way.
You could drill out some small holes in the front structural brace and the side/top panel to move air out. You could also drill small holes in the front to let air escape (similar to how your side panel was made from the factory) but going through all that trouble would be better to let a front based fan act as an intake.
I wanted to provide some answers in my write up as this case is seldom used (on here at least), other Lian Li cases are similar and I had to sort of piece together the info myself on what would work looking at the other few builds listed on here. Back when they were made, the smaller PSU's weren't as common and that is really the key in this case to getting airflow back. Naturally for my design, venting out the top was the best solution (I think even without a fan, just a cut grill on the top would work as well).
Not sure how soon I will buy a 1060, but going for a single fan EVGA unit. Should not add much more "clutter" to the case at all.
This would be a yes/no answer. The unit you used w/ the fan seems to be in total 37mm in depth, which is just too much to mount directly.
No, because the top fan clearance is about 24mm (standard 25mm fan just hits/rests on the top of the power supply). So you really need a slim 13 or 15mm fan up there.
Yes, if you were to modify the spacing where the power supply bracket/PSU rests. If you could shift it down a bit and get it to mount properly then you would have clearance. This would require quite a but of cutting/grinding however the small Corsair PSU weights nothing so removing the "holder" brackets would be ok.
You could also mount the radiator on top of the case, and drill holes for the tubing to go through and then mount the fan on the bottom. However, then you have a a radiator sitting on top of the case.
I also originally took the case apart (it comes entirely apart beside 2 stubborn rivets) and looked at drilling a front mount 120mm fan, however you would need to drill both the HDD front inner panel and the outer shell. While not impossible, a ton of heavy modding. If you did that, you could maybe then squeeze in the AIO liquid cooler you used. Big maybe however and then you would lose any way to mount SSD's or HDD's (assuming you use a bottom intake fan, which blocks all bottom HDD mounting spots).
Thanks for the thumbs up and the comment! The airflow issues as of current are non-existent due to the smaller PSU leaving a lot of space. However, once a graphics card gets in there and things are running 60-100% load I have a feeling the airflow will be more than necessary!
Very nice build. Quite similar to how I had to modify my small Lian Li box (they get it so close to perfect, but not quite). Your unit is about the same physical size as mine, however with that top handle I wasn't quite sold for my uses. This box however allows for you to mount that liquid cooler which I could not do without sacrificing a graphics card or perhaps having 1mm of clearance with everything mounted. I think you have just about maxed out what that little box can currently do as far as top end components!
Thanks! Will be adding more pics soon hopefully.
I have not known about the case for very long, but I found it after not being 100% settled on what is available. There is that Lian Li quality look, the cost (at least now) is quite low also.
Depending on the SFX PSU you choose, you can probably get away with not doing custom cables. You may decide to add them later. Although, this will also be driven by what you want to install. If you get a motherboard with an M.2 sata on the back, you can mount an HDD in the lower slot on the front wall and the cables will have plenty of room to be covering the top front panel HDD mount. In the end, I think for the amount of cables I will need to use, there is no reason to spend the money on custom cables) other than for looks. They don't clutter like a standard ATX PSU does.
As for temps, I cannot judge 100% the final outcome as I have yet to install a graphics card. But, using a standard handbrake conversion for 30-40min gets my system up to about 60c (I have seen it around 71c with the room 'warm' but that is not typical so far). Once the GPU is in there, and you have been running both simultaneously playing games etc, you will probably start to see the cooling inefficiencies of the case.
Anyhow, stay tuned for more pics and you will get an idea of the 'clutter' you are in for.
ACVoong, thanks for the suggestions.
I forgot to put a budget because I sort of picked everything out there, but I would say around $600-700 range.
I know I wouldn't need another cooler but I would like one that is more efficient and quieter with directional airflow rather than sitting ontop of the chip like the stock ones do. So I budgeted for a nicely priced cooler.
I have built a few computers before and used Gigabytes MB's so picked that one, but I know ASRock gets good reviews also ... Thoughts?
Same goes with G.Skill ram, My intent would be to scale to 32gb for future use, so would like chips that would be easily matched. Thoughts on PNY quality?