Would this build run on a Corsair SF600 SFX PSU? I'm just thinking with a SFX PSU and a adapter bracket you could regain volume for airflow in such a crammed space.
Awesome! Another Level1Techs fan putting Threadripper through it's paces! Maybe you can aid Wendell and the rest of the Linux community by helping debug the Linux Kernel with the current issues with PCI-E errors and reported incompatibility with some cards like the old first gen TITAN X.
Let's make sure AMD hears our cries about the IOMMU grouping.
How's the latency on the TCL TV? (BTW, they're one of the higher tier Chinese brands, next to Haier and Hisense)
Frankly, I'm impressed the PSU cables and the drive cage still fit together considering the clearance. Whoa.
Ooh. I hope you're doing dual system gaming/streaming machines in a single box.
Good cable management, but the Define Mini C has a way to make it even better. Notice the cutouts on the PSU shroud directly below the motherboard? They're meant for front I/O, power, reset, USB and fan headers on the bottom of your motherboard. You can hide those cables on the other side of the PSU shroud for an even cleaner look.
Also, you can completely remove that 3.5'' drive cage just opposite the PSU to regain more space to cram cables better and put the SSD on the 3x 2.5'' bracket behind the motherboard.
Just to be frank, putting an SSD in that removable 3.5'' cage is IMO a waste of space. There are 2.5'' SSD caddies in the back to put your 850 EVO, then you can gain more volume for your intake fans to provide airflow by removing the center removable 3.5'' drive cage.
With that many NICs, you could run an entire router off of a virtual machine with PCI passthrough and pfsense.
Step 1: You have a NAS
Step 2: Create a home network using pfsense
Most likely, if it's an identical set, it will quad channel.
Take advantage of Quad Channel, dude. A 4x8GB kit will help immensely with x264 CPU based streaming while gaming.
Proper overkill means a Rampage VI Apex. It only has 4 DIMM slots with less RAM traces on the mobo so you can OC your memory higher.
128GB of RAM really is overkill, even for 4K video editing and Blender/Maya.
Where it isn't though is running 8+ VMs at the same time. You should learn virtualization if you haven't already.
Also, cable management.
That is very impressive tube routing for the radiator tubing. I don't see many builds with all RAM slots occupied and the radiator tubing for the Kraken on the right side.
Those 1080 Ti cards are just asking for a Powerlink on each. Will help immensely to tidy up the PCI-E power cables.
Awesome! Just be careful with VAC based multiplayer games, they require bare metal or you get VAC banned. (Crappy, I know.)
If you play a lot of Steam based VAC multiplayer games, Fedora would be a better hypervisor cause you can game in the host OS without VAC worries.
Add a Vega 56 and it is already better than the Xbox One X. (especially with the CPU overclock already on it, and Ryzen 3 1200 is meant to be overclocked)
This. Low clocks even if there's tons of threads just doesn't work for gaming. The 1920X from what I heard OCs to 4.1Ghz on air with a Noctua.
I really hope you're planning Virtualization or unRAID/QEMU on Fedora on this. having enough for 4 Hyperthreaded cores per VM with 8 cores leftover for the hypervisor sounds really nice.
Be careful with BIOS updates as this motherboard was one of the ones that dangerously overvolted if you left it on dynamic Vcore.
I noticed the position of the Dark Rock 3, and it's most likely RAM clearance interference that made you choose that orientation. You can likely solve this by using a slim 120mm fan like a Prolimatech Ultra Sleek.
I did it.
Holy crap. I tried to find those figures and I just found out they're sold out everywhere... These look like the best ones, but why was this a limited run?!?
I wanted to get the Summer one and use a label printer to stick her and the spaceship to my 280mm rad with the label "KEEP SUMMER SAFE."
Really? Update the BIOS if you can. For content production quad channel isn't negligible in terms of performance. Premiere and Blender benefits greatly from quad channel.
You may have to set it to the XMP profile to get it to post. Put 2 sticks in at first in Channels A and B, then gradually add more sticks where the mobo recommends for Channels C and D.
Yeah, that's a vanilla kernel. It's sounding like it's back to a motherboard incompatibility. Poke MSI about this to see if they could release a BIOS to fix this or make a post in the VFIO subreddit on this.
Um, DUAL system...
PCPP does not allow mismatching multiples of motherboards.
People have reported performance issues with nested page tables. Maybe try disabling that? Are you testing your Titan on a vanilla kernel?
Just for the record, here's Wendell's post on the PCI-E Errors on Threadripper: https://forum.level1techs.com/t/threadripper-pcie-bus-errors/118977
Well there you go. 10 cores with single core performance faster than a stock 7700K! :D
Are you on 10.12.6? That was the first macOS with native Kaby Lake support so I wouldn't blame you if support is a little spotty.
Gigabyte just announced a ITX version of the 1080 with the same dimensions as the 1070 you currently have. You can't say no to that...
You know this build is bleeding edge when PCPP doesn't even have a listing for this motherboard yet.
Congrats on getting it to 4.8Ghz with the delid! That can compete very well with a 7700k in single threaded. Mind sharing Cinebench single core numbers?
Fedora and the virt-manager GUI have made this easier than before where it was all CLI based. Fedora 26 is what I use to run my passthrough VMs by combining nano, virt-manager and virsh.
If you miss Mint's interface, Cinnamon CAN be installed in place of GNOME Desktop Environment on Fedora.
I think that 1080 Ti is thirsty. You planning a EK block for the STRIX?
Awesome! Another Fedora QEMU user! How's the IOMMU grouping?
It's fine. IOMMU situation is still flaky on Ryzen and Threadripper anyways. Intel and X299 just works when it comes to IOMMU.
They've addressed the Ryzen segfault issue by issuing a new hardware revision of the CPU without said issues: https://www.techpowerup.com/236621/amd-resolves-linux-marginality-performance-issue-on-newly-shipped-ryzen-cpus
Threadripper is immune to this problem, but Intel still kinda wins when it comes to latencies and IOMMU grouping for GPU passthrough.
Oh hey! A fellow Linux user!
You should really try GPU passthrough on Threadripper. But Ubuntu is not the best distro for Threadripper at current cause you need a bleeding edge vanilla kernel without any of Ubuntu's modifications to make Ryzen and Threadripper fully work.
The errors you're experiencing could be due to the PCI-E errors Threadripper currently throws under Linux, regardless of what kernel you have. You'll need to add "pci=nommconf" to your grub kernel arguments. Thanks to Wendell from Level1Techs for this info at this timecode: https://youtu.be/cDbn98QTAbg?t=1h41m24s
Not personally a fan of Unity as a Desktop Environment, I switched to Cinnamon and it was like a breath of fresh air, especially with Nemo vs Nautilus.
KDE and Plasma is still kinda buggy if you don't strictly install Kubuntu (Migrating from Unity to KDE isn't as smooth as it should be) but Cinnamon just works.
I was gonna say, has he been watching too much Hardware Canucks?
1060 is not the best choice for older kernels unless your client is going to not use Nouveau and use the Nvidia proprietary drivers.
FWIW, The RX cards on Linux have amazing open source driver support.
Ah, okay. Remember to take advantage of the I/O cutouts in it to hide your USB internal and front panel cables.
Was there no room to put the radiator exhaust fans, despite being slim, on the other side inside the case?
I'm using Fedora 26 using Wendell's guide on Level1Techs: (Just replace AMD/Ryzen references with intel_iommu=on) https://level1techs.com/article/ryzen-gpu-passthrough-setup-guide-fedora-26-windows-gaming-linux
BTW, Pics or it didn't happen: https://i.redd.it/bmuxg5fosdiz.jpg
Have you tried to get ESXi running on this rig?
As a Air 540 owner, I have to agree here. I put Silverstone fine mesh on the locations you just suggested and have a 280 radiator expelling the heat. My PSU was still starved for air, but I didn't want to have negative pressure, so I put a 92mm in the rear compartment.
I was just about to say this doesn't have enough pickle... then I saw your next build will be a pickle...
I'll be waiting.
P.S: I'm making a Linux Host OS in Schroedinger’s universe (S02E01) managing a QEMU hypervisor and a Windows VM inside a simulation. (inside a simulation)
If only Rick was taller and bigger, he could potentially be an anti-GPU sag device.
No, I'm serious.
Very curious to if there are compatibility issues with the Oculus tracking cameras and the USB controllers on Ryzen. I know those cameras don't work well with third party USB 3.0 controllers. It has to be a PCH based native USB 3.0 or 3.1 controller.
Have you tried the reverse? a Linux Host OS running Windows 8.1 in a VM with GPU passthrough? Fedora 26 has really made the package installation for stuff to start VMs really easy now.
I'm thinking that PSU is blocking airflow for the GPU. You can get a SFX PSU like the SF450 and a Silverstone SFX to ATX adapter to make sure the 1060 has more airflow.
"Finally, for virtualisation, Intel is still the more mature and better supported platform. Ryzen/Threadripper can certainly do it, but Intel is much easier to get up and running with minimal fuss."
Actually, this is true with the IOMMU grouping on Threadripper right now not being optimal. For some reason NVMe drives are grouped in the same group as graphics cards, so you have to do an ACS patch to get Threadripper virtualized PCI passthrough working.