I believe this mobo has 8 fan headers. I'm actually not using any of them though except for the CPU fan header to plug the dummy plug from my aio into. Three are connected to the aio and the other 6 are run into a corsair commander pro which allows me to control them all individually.
Nice build! That's a beast of a system
I've been seeing some pretty substantial differences with people's 9900k load temps. Even with matching coolers. I'm curious as to what's going on myself. What temps are you getting and with which mobo and cooler?
Looks amazing. Great work. Out of the two, I think the dominator ram setup looked best
I was meaning the already warmed air blowing through the radiator, if I had it as exhaust, would/does decrease the cooling ability of the radiator. That sets the temperature delta much higher than when its pulling in fresh air from outside. I do tend to agree with you on general fan setup though. You can see my previous builds follow the standard airflow path setup of intake in the front with exhaust at the top and back. But they are in more traditional style of PC case.
I'm torn on the warm air rising argument. I understand that it's a hard fact, and it seems like it would make total sense when applied to PC cooling. But I've brought it up before in a few discussions on here about case airflow and was immediately shot down with the reasoning being that it doesn't have enough of a chance to make any difference with all the airflow going on already. It doesn't get a chance to rise naturally. So I just dont know what to believe there lol. I'm going to need gamers nexus or someone like that to give a definitive answer
Evga's dark line is pretty fantastic. Not big on the frills but is wonderfully over built. I have the x299 dark. That and the z77 sabertooth are the my favorite boards that I own so far.
I have seen UFD tech vids in my recommend but haven't ever watched one. Sounds like I wasn't missing out on anything. Kind of makes me want to skim through a few just to checkout the shilling.
Phil's is more of a niche channel. He focuses a lot on older hardware, SFF rigs and some budget options. He makes great content but he doesn't ever focus on new hardware so I think that keeps his channel smaller.
Another more niche channel I forgot to mention is F2F tech. If you are at all into older GPU's his channel is a must watch. It's right up my alley as I collect GPU's. I had a crazy idea one day after I was really starting to get into PC hardware that I wanted to collect nvidia GPU's. I only have a couple of the really old cards, but starting at the gtx 285 all the way up to the 1080ti I've managed to collect about 90% of them so far. Im only missing a few of the lower end cards. Its almost time to start on ati/amd lol.
You dont have to believe it, but that's what I paid. Bought it about a year and a half ago.
The top three on the radiator are set as intake, as well as the bottom three. The three on the side are exhaust. I have more intake than exhaust to keep a good positive airflow going. I did try a few different combinations and this setup yielded the best thermals for both my CPU and GPU. The radiator fans pull in fresh air to keep the rad cool, and even though they are dumping the hot air into the case, it exhausts well. The bottom fans are blowing fresh air directly onto the GPU which is helping to keep it about 5c cooler than it was in the last case I had it in. If I set it up the way you mentioned it would be pushing all the hot air to the radiator fans and through the radiator, which would greatly decrease its ability to cool my CPU.
I hadn't seen or heard of that board until you mentioned it. So I just looked it up and man that's nice! I may have zero issues with mine, but now I'm strongly considering getting that Asus once they become more readily available here.
Heres hoping the beefy vrm helps out with your thermals!
Off topic but which tech channels do you usually watch on YouTube? For getting actual info and trusted reviews I like to go with gamers nexus and hardware unboxed. For more niche stuff or just entertainment I've found Phil'sComputerLab, craft computing, and good ol LTT to be pretty good watches. Theres many more I watch as well, but off the top of my head theres my main ones
I guess it really just comes down to this, are your temps in the acceptable range when you're using your rig for what you actually use it for? This is really all that matters. Though, believe me, I completely understand wanting the absolute best from my chips. Especially in your case having gone through two chips and silicon lottery. It's the enthusiast in us lol.
Other than trying a different mobo, I'm completely out of ideas. Like you pointed out it really must just be my chip being something of a golden sample.
I look forward to seeing your custom loop! I really want to try my hand at one, but man they can get spendy. And as often as I upgrade or change things around, I could see it just being a major headache for my use case.
I couldn't be happier with this Lian-Li case. I cant comment on how it works for a custom loop, but I do see it used quite often for that. Seems like it has a fair bit of room for the reservoir and pump though. One negative that doesn't impact me but I could see being an issue is noise suppression. There really isn't any lol. The trade off for great airflow I suppose
The way I have my fans setup, the three on the radiator are controlled through corsair cue on the radiator tab, and then the other 6 are also controlled through corsair cue except I have them all run through a corsair commander pro, so they are controlled separately/different cue tab. I've built several rigs with a ton of fans like this and so far this setup has been the easiest to control them all exactly how I want (despite me not liking cue very much lol). In the past I've used speed fan, motherboard controls, and seperate fan controllers, but for pure ease of use and effectiveness this is working amazingly. With the caveat of needing the commander pro for this to work this way.
The initial bios that came on the board was pretty poor and I think that is where many of the negative opinions on it came from. They did redesign it a little while back, and while definitely not my favorite bios, Ive had no issues with the updated version. The UI is meh, but as far as options go it has everything I've needed, and the board itself is fantastic. I really don't think it can be beat in its price bracket. I've always stayed away from gigabytes products just due to their reputation, but if they can keep making quality stuff like this mobo, I can see them turning that reputation around very easily.
Yeah keep me posted if you can, I'm really curious now myself. If the reseating doesn't help, fingers crossed it does, but if it doesn't you may want to check and see if there's any convex or concave issues going on with your IHS or the cold plate of your cooler keeping you from getting good thermal transfer. Pretty rare that it's bad enough to need lapping but is worth a check before going through the hassle of a mobo swap
No problem! So I went and double checked everything last night. I only had time to run prime95 for about 30 minutes, but I have indeed been running the small fft and blend tests. I have yet to try large ffts. My 95w power limit had been removed and I'm at 5ghz across all cores. One core hits 67c, but all others stay at 65c and below. I took some pics with hwinfo, cpuz and prime95 up. Not great pics but I'll post them to my build anyway. I cant think of anything I could be missing here, just a pretty decent sample of a 9900k I guess. My case has really good airflow, but my rad is at the top, pulling air in through it, so that shouldn't be making much if any difference to my CPU temps, only GPU.
Nice build! Looks really clean. You have a ton of CPU headroom should you decide to upgrade your GPU sometime down the road
Nice work and good choices of balanced parts +1
Clean, simple aesthetics, and capable. Nice work. Enjoy that upgrade/new rig! +1
I completely agree with the USB 3.0 issue. I got lucky this time not needing any more, but in the past I've used an internal 3.0 hub. Found one that worked well and added 3 more internal 3.0 headers and 2 standard 3.0 plugs. It's fairly small and magnetic, so is easy to hide. I looked it up just in case you need one someday -
Sabrent 5 Port Internal USB 3.0 Hub Controller (HB-INTR)
I was going to mention your motherboard. I initially was going to get the exact one you have until I started reading about Asus going fairly anemic on the z390 VRMs. This is the first gigabyte product I've ever purchased, and I did so purely on all the high praise its gotten for its VRMs and 9900k overclocking prowess. Normally I go straight to Asus when buying high end.
I think you are correct in trying to reseat your cooler. At least for a first step. It does really seem like your temps are a bit high for being delided. I also read something about some people reporting their 9900k temps getting significantly better after updating to the most recent bios, but I'd guess you tried that already or it may have been a completely different mobo I was reading about.
I am definitely going to double check all my settings tonight to make sure in posting the correct info, but I am pretty positive about which prime95 test I was running and I do know for sure I removed the power limit. My 7700k was a poor overclocker so maybe it was just my time to get a good chip lol.
I definitely removed the 95 watt tdp. I will double check that I'm running the blend/small fft test first thing when I get home this evening. I am almost positive I was though. I do remember for sure that I am at 5.0 across all cores @1.285 volts. I'll see if i cant get some screenshots this evening with cpuz and prime95.
Before I manually dialed in my oc, I let my mobo do its auto OC just to see what it came up with. It went to 5.2ghz but with some ridiculous voltage. Around 1.4 I think, and that had me hitting 92c in prime95. I immediately disabled that crap and dialed in my own
That was with blend and small fft. I'll double check that when I get home tonight though. I was thinking I got pretty lucky with the thermals on this chip.
They are phanteks brand extensions
The sennheisers I use for fps gaming since they seem to work best for hearing footsteps and gunfire direction. The steelseries I use for all other game genres and watching movies. Same with the keyboards kinda. I use the corsair for fps games and the logitech for everything else
That is a nice, well balanced build. Excellent value. Great work! +1
Nice build. Heres just a few ideas on your temps- Is your CPU overclocked? 86 is pretty warm, especially with such good airflow to your radiator. 76 for your GPU isn't great, but not all that bad either considering your rad is exhausting onto it. Maybe an undervolt on the CPU, or try turning up the pump and fan speed a bit on your rad. Also could try adding a few exhaust fans to the case if you dont have any in there already.
That's one clean and visually pleasing build. Nice work!
Nope doesn't seem stupid at all, it's just hard to tell what is going on exactly in the pics. And you are correct, it is in push pull, so there's fans on both sides of the radiator. The outer fans you are seeing are the non rgb corsair mag lev fans (the ones visible on the inside of the case are the LED version of the same fans) and have the phanteks halo light rings on them
The amount of performance that can still be had from some of these older parts never ceases to amaze me. You have a lot of great quality components in this rig. I’d love to see more of a description, I’m curious to hear the story behind this rig.
Anyway, nice work. +1
Edit- I’ve been trying to hunt down that exact motherboard at a fair price for quite a while now. Any chance you could tell me what you ended up paying for it? I just want to see if I’m even in the right ballpark
I’m a simple man, I see batarangs in a pc build, I instantly +1.
Nice clean looking build and excellent photos. Great work +1
Looks really nice and clean. The 4790k is still quite impressive despite its age. I imagine you can get a pretty decent overclock going on the cpu with that mobo and cooler. If you were to ever want to upgrade that gpu, you won’t have any cpu bottleneck issues either. Nice work
Very clean, simple and effective. Nice work +1
Jayztwocents did a really good video the other day weighing the pros and cons of buying a current gen card or waiting for the next gen. Here’s a link to the video. Worth a watch, he brings up some good points and articulates it better than I would be able to here
Not the op but have had a fair bit of experience with that same card. It’s really not bad at all. It isn’t as cool and quiet as my strix model of the same card, but overall it performs really well. When paired with a case that has adequate airflow it stays in the mid 60’s. It isn’t the quietest card but the noise levels are acceptable. If you can find the strix model for not much more money, I’d recommend getting that instead, but this one isn’t bad and I’d choose it over the similarly priced msi card hands down
The gaming enthusiast in me turns his nose up at it, like you mentioned in the write up.
But then the hardware enthusiast in me that isn’t such a **** and appreciates things much more says, great build! +1
I don’t know much about the pc requirements for audio production, but it looks like you have a great rig going. And should you ever want to turn it into more of a high end gaming rig, you are a simple gpu swap away as you are already loaded with great parts.
Great write up! Nice budget build as well. On the pubg issue- I agree it’s most likely the cpu causing the issues or at least adding to them, but in addition, with some of the recent patches the game seems to utilize a ridiculous amount of system ram and will start dropping frames and hitching/stuttering on systems with 8gb or less. Hopefully they will patch the issue soon as 8gb of ram should be more than enough to run it smoothly.
I ran across the same issues myself the other day when benchmarking some budget parts on my test bench. I had started out with 8gb of dram and pubg played poorly. Added another 8gb with changing nothing else and it started playing very smoothly.
Nice build, looks great.
How are your gpu temps? I did a build in that same phanteks case and found it to be quite restrictive with the airflow. The gpu temps drop greatly when you remove the front panel. Otherwise a great case though. Just wondering if you’ve had the same experience. The 1080 that is in the system I’m talking about also already runs a bit warm to begin with though so I’m sure it’s just compounding the issue
Nice work, looks good.
It’s crazy how well the 4790k has held up over the years. I am currently running one on my test bench with a small overclock and notice little to no difference in performance when switching between it and my 7700k system
Out of curiosity, why would you want to put another 32gb of ram in there? The 32gb you already have in there should be way more than enough for whatever tasks that pc performs
No. You were correct in calling your build mid range. It’s a very solid mid range build btw. Nice work.
The terminology can get pretty subjective I guess. To me a high end build would need to have an unlocked i7 from the last two gens, a 1080 or 1080 ti, maybe an nvme drive, and so on.
An enthusiast build would need to have an enthusiast chip like an i9 or threadripper, a 1080 ti or Titan and then maybe a custom loop.
But like I said it’s pretty subjective and there’s more to it than I listed, I just wrote down the main components
Nice work! The paint job looks great. +1.
One question, did painting the radiator reduce its effectiveness at all? Not criticizing, simply curious
Great looking build! And those sleeved cables are absolutely beautiful. +1
What is the issue you are having with overclocking the cpu? I’m sure someone here can help
I’m not all that knowledgeable on NAS systems as I’ve never needed or set one up, but regardless that was a great read! Glad everything worked out, sounds like you put a great amount of work into it. +1
How do you like your SteelSeries p800’s? I bought a pair to replace my Astro a50’s and haven’t regretted it for a second. The two battery system is a lifesaver!
Makes sense. I was just curious as from your comment it sounded like the only issue was the temps, wasn’t trying to criticize
Looks great, nice work!
Why not just put the new cpu cooler on the i7? Or is that what you did and it was still reaching 90c?
Edit: either way, nice work. I love seeing older hardware getting repurposed and enjoyed. It can be surprising sometimes just how much performance can still be squeezed out of some older hardware
I bought the same red dragon keyboard as a cheap backup to my Corsair kB in case I spill something on it yet again. I wasn’t expecting much from such an inexpensive mechanical kB, but man is it impressive! Key presses feel great and are comparable to a much more expensive kB
Nice well balanced part selection. Nice rig. +1
Not meaning to criticize, just genuinely curious... why just a 1060 in a rig that is otherwise full of high end parts and has a 165hz monitor?