They idle at the lowest possible for Mag Lev, though they do get loud once they kick in, and the system is under full load. It's the case and lack of additional radiator surface area.
I have more surface area than I need, just waiting for summer to see how hot it gets in 80 degree weather. I have everything setup so the CPU tells the top rad fans how fast to go and the system workload determines how fast the front fans run (Via software interface). Under load is with basic testing and while I'm gaming, I haven't decided to push it just yet, as I need to clock to about 5.2-5.5GHz on the CPU and finish fine tuning my profile, and then I'll go through more extensive testing. Runs great though!
Both are SE, I did have to drill holes into the backplate to mount the RES, but I would mount yours lower than I did mine, it was a pain to fill.
I find less dust with equal to positive air pressure, as dust is one of the killers of a PC, and therefore negative air pressure isn't suggested. I run equal on my system, and positive on most builds.
Just make certain your motherboard is utilizing the highest speed your memory can run at.
Nice. I'd have done RAID 0 512GB versions of the 960 pro, but that does cost more, and honestly you can add another 1TB later to run RAID 0. It's a nice setup though, take it easy and build it right, wire manage as best you can.
The H150i Pro is a nice AIO, but for $60 more might be a bit overkill, and you can put that $60 into the GPU. I've run the H100i v2 on 7900K systems that are lightly overclocked and get good performance. MSI is a solid GPU, so I wouldn't be too worried, you made a good choice though to save some money you could go down to the 3GB version. Just weigh on what it is you're doing and what you may want to do with what the GPU offers and go from there.
Save a little money and go for a Corsair RM750x? Assuming it's available, the last price I saw was about $109.99 USD. Otherwise, the setup is solid, assuming you can make the cooler fit. I'm a fan of AIO.
Check out EKWB's aluminum kits, they include a single GPU block and everything else you'll need to water cool. Don't bother attempting hardline tubing until you get more familiar, other than the cost of fittings later down the road, it's a relatively simple upgrade. I'd do the build that you like most honestly, though the last listed build would probably suite you better (Minus the water cooler obviously). Grab some solid orange cooalnt and you're set.
Pretty balanced for what it is. Make certain to clock your memory so that the APU benefits the most from it.
I keep forgetting about that. Rarely work with AMD processors. I'd grab an old working GPU or hope that somehow you don't have to RMA your board or CPU. You could also put your GPU into another computer, plug in the power and everything, and see if it works or not to determine GPU or MB.
Solid monitor, will function similarly to what I suggested, only difference is in size and it's curved. I don't see where it would impede on your gameplay any more than my suggested model would. And it's only $100 more so not bad. Remember to grab a good mouse and solid mechanical keyboard. I got a Logitech core 502 and g.skill blue cherry mx keyboard recently for work they seem pretty solid. Maybe look more into other similar models to fit your needs as well.
You can wait and see what the next generation of GPUs does to the market, but I don't believe it will make any positive impact, as crypto currency mining will still be an issue unless it crashes hard and more permanently.
I wouldn't wait to upgrade for RAM to drop, Samsung will finish their factory soon enough, but with GPUs now using the same modules the prices will probably be this way for some time. Entire new system, so i5-8600k, samsung 960 evo 250gb, 8gb single module ddr4-3000, h110i AIO if it will fit in your current case, and something like a corsair rm550 or rm650 (Other comparable brands as well). If you're current hard drive is 64mb cache and relitively new, I would use it as a storage drive later, otherwise a FireCuda or WD Blue (Price)/Black (Longevity and Warranty) in a 1TB or 2TB flavor. If you have excellent WiFi, pay for a better add on card, as that one is pretty slow compared to the faster WiFi routers on the market.
Nope. Maybe private sale to someone who's trying to be honest, but not likely, as the entire GPU market is extremely inflamed because of crypto currency mining. It sucks right now for anyone who wants to build a new gaming rig. Reminds me of when the Skylake i7 came out and instead of the $330 it was selling for almost $500.
Honestly, your current setup is a bit oudated, with a 960, I would at least consider upgrading the CPU, MB, and RAM and then upgrading the rest later provided what you have now supports everything. Do not do Windows 7, go 10, and if you use DVDs then get the drive but otherwise drop it. Only get wifi if you don't have ethernet available, the connection is more stable, and your router doesn't have to be a decent aftermarket model to make it work. Gaming you might be able to pull off an i3 k series and a decent board, you'll pay a similar price for DDR4 memory, and the power supply should be enough. I would budget another $400 for some extra room and look into upgrading a bit bigger than what you have here. For streaming, you'll want the 8600K suggested by howitfeelstochew5gum, an ASUS Prime board or better, and start with 8GB single dim, go to 16GB when you can afford it. An SSD would be another upgrade to go to later, make your mechanical drive (HDD) your secondary if it's newer.
If you're absolutely strapped and you have to upgrade now then tell me and I can do some digging around. Honestly look to upgrade a lot more though.
AMD can run hot, I find that most stock coolers only keep up with day to day tasks, and aren't great for much more. Aftermarket will always be more beneficial than not.
At least an AIO would improve things, definitely a 650W PSU for those light overclocks when gaming, as well as the loads on the GPU. Possibly a different case, I have good luck with the 400s and AIO, but editing video might want to go with something by Corsair or Fractal.
Try booting with just the onboard video, see if that works, if so it's your GPU and if not you'll want to start taking it a part and putting back together to make certain everything is in place. Your GPU does need to be plugged in, so make certain it has power, otherwise that's your first problem.
Re seat your CPU, make certain you don't have any bent pins, and then start moving on to your memory if this doesn't fix it. Swap and change parts slowly, add the GPUs after if everything works, if removing them didn't do anything then it's not likely to be the GPUs. Clear the CMOS when you re seat the CPU, most of the time it's the CPU or motherboard that causes the issue, and if it persists consider RMAing both unless you have a second board/CPU laying around that you can test with.
You could go with the 140s, I wouldn't use an AIO at that point, as I find 240mm radiators fit better in most cases. So if you go air cooler, go for it, you'll have positive air pressure which helps keep the dust down.
The blue and black perform similarly, it's mostly longevity that the black has along with the warranty to back it, hence why I suggest it. If you're not worried or plan on upgrading later down the road anyways then go blue.
Are you on a budget and if so what is that budget?
Also, what kind of gaming would you be doing, and what would you like to be able to do in the future with this system?
Upgrade your PSU to about 600+ Watts for full stability. Change out the CPU cooler, the additional cores tend to run a little warmer under normal conditions, and it will be nice to do a basic overclock for gaming. The case should be fine, it is a little bigger, but not nearly as bad as the 900D. It will allow for future upgrades. Change the Barricuda you have selected for a newer version, 2TB should be more than enough. Pay $20 more and get the M.2 version (960 EVO 500GB) of your SSD, save yourself having to route the SATA and power for it. Run Windows 10, it's stable, and will actually utilize your hardware.
Possibly swap the Blue edition for a Black to get the best read/write with your SSD. Also, go for an aftermarket cpu cooler, that way you can get the most out of your processor. Otherwise, this should work, I use Intel for the performance in gaming and water cooling myself, but that will depend on your budget as well. nonoesimposible has some decent setups to consider.
I would consider and AIO, swap the 1TB Blue for a Black, maybe drop the 500GB and upgrade to the 2TB and keep the 500GB as some kind of backup. I think it's only $50 more for the 500GB M.2, so consider that so you're not looking to upgrade later, install games on the 2TB to keep space on the M.2 to a minimum.
I believe the ideal airflow is intake at the front, use 120s static pressure fans, and the other two fans exhausting out the top and back for a balanced flow that works with your thermals. If you stick with the air cooler, make certain the fans are directed towards the rear facing exhaust fan for best results. I like AIO because of the extra room you typically gain in the case.
Tell me, what is it that you use your computer for, as the CPU and memory, as well as storage setup you have suggests 4K video editing. It will definitely handle gaming just fine, I've worked with a couple similar systems, it's just overkill. Let me know what workloads you'll be putting this through.
Yeah, the CPU is important, but most people go overkill when building in this area. 8600K or an AMD equivelent, gives you room to consider an M.2 SSD or maybe a larger SSD, and you could also use the money to get a slightly larger PSU if you're not certain.
You can run the 1080 with the 550, but I always build my client systems with at least 750 for future upgrades, which is overkill but doesn't cost too much more. Also, consider using ethernet for your internet connection, more stable and faster, but this is if you don't already have a great wifi router and strong signal strength from where your system will be in regards to the wifi router location. This would also save some money, then again if wifi is your only option, then ignore my ethernet suggestion.
The Eclipse is a good case to start with, I swap cases every few months, and I've used that one in numerous builds. The Meshify C is a great case as well, so go with what you like and feel you need for now, cases aren't too costly and it isn't too much work to swap cases in the future. I will note however, the Eclipse airflow is a bit restricted because of the front panel.
You've done pretty good otherwise finding a price and performance balance, unless you went to a pro 960 there's no point in going m.2 other than you wouldn't have to route cables for your hard drive (maybe $20 more for the m.2 960 EVO 500GB).
For your budget, consider maybe not going for the LL fans, as they're pretty costly and your budget could open up a little if you did RGB strips instead (Your MB choices should support RGB). Or consider possibly doing one of the Crystal series cases by Corsair that include LED fans if you want some RGB and more airflow.
I have two 24" ASUS VG248QE 144 Hz monitors that are treating me quite well and are great for gaming. They price at around $280 so consider these along with your other peripherals.
I would go 8700K as suggested before, the additional cores alone make it worth it, and the additional HDD would be a great idea. I run a similar setup with my 960 pro, software only, and all my games/files stored on my 2TB HDD. facelift13 is right with the multiple dimms as apposed to single, you get a bit more functionality out of it, unless you plan on going to 64GB eventually which would be overkill.
In short; 8700K, maybe the ASUS Strix Z370-E Gaming or the Prime for budget (Maybe the MSI equivalents), swap over to the 2x8GB dimms, and add a 2TB WD Black or Seagate FireCuda.
Otherwise a pretty solid build with some room to grow for sure.
The whole thing is definitely overkill, but then again it depends on what he's doing, and if he is making money streaming and video editing it might be a long term investment piece.
The Ryzen CPU is definitely a great buy with all the additional cores for video editing, the twin 1080Ti's might be a bit overkill unless he's doing 4K videos and/or wants faster results when editing video. The m.2 makes sense, at least he didn't go pro, but 2x 512GB pros might be nicer for speed, and the 8TB is more than enough for most things. 64GB of memory is quite a bit, again back to the how much multi tasking and video work he's doing, 32GB should be more than enough for most. The power supply is total overkill, a 1000 watt or 850 watt is more than enough. Swap out the 115i for the 150i pro for more radiator and improved cooling wouldn't be a bad idea. Motherboard might be a bit much considering, then again at the price of the CPU, if he has the money why not?
How much his workload is is important to how much he needs, there's some minor future proofing to consider of course, and then overall how much he can spend or wants to spend. I say go all out if you have the money, play it smart if you're on a budget, or be frugal to exactly what you need if you're not getting any of it back and don't really have the money.
Two pc's streaming would be ideal, but then again costs quite a bit since you're buying two or more of everything, and so one mid range system for light streaming and video editing tends to be normal.
I don't do as much video editing as I'd like, rarely enough time, but I'd look into other builds on here more geared at what your friend is doing to get an idea of what he could go with. Just remember, if he is heavily video editing, streaming, etc... he should consider a dual system and/or a monster system.
Maybe do some Aluminum, clear, or white cable combs too. Ugh, so much more greatness to be had of this build, and so many directions it can go.
Looks great, love the Tiachi board, though I'm a fan of the ASUS ROG Strix Z370-E Gaming board personally. Definitely add the shroud, though I would cut a small pass through in it, get some rubber grommets to make it look nice, and pass the PCI-E cable through it for a nice clean look. Maybe do some sleeving on the AIO tubing to make them white if there's a compatible kit online. I just wish this case had a little bit more room for cable management, mine's cramped, but then again I do have a full custom loop in it.
Honestly, considering there's only the CPU on the loop, the fans will be more than sufficient even when overclocking.
UPDATE: Got the heat spreaders upgrade from Cable Mod finally, in black of course, and I think I'll swap the min to see how they look using the clear bars for the lighting. I think I need to replace the LED on two dimms, though I think my Corsair Warranty will do that for me if I feel I can live with only 16GB of memory. Thoughts? I do plan on replacing my sleeved cable extensions with actual PSU cables in a different color scheme and going away from all the excess red in this build. I love my ROG product, but the dominant black look with accents looks much nicer, and I want to eventually make this a clean show build.
Sorry, no, I'll be holding on to these bad boys until the market stabilizes or an opportunity for a 1080Ti comes up that isn't double it's price.
I plan on swapping out to a black case, the lights currently transition so later I'll set it to static white.
I had one 1070 under budget when I started building and ran into a second one later. A 1080Ti wasn't the idea at first because of cost. Now I want 2... lol....
Thank you. I'm a ways away from how good I want to be and so this will be a stepping stone. I also have a lot more to do in order to make this a solid build.