As I prefer Roccat mouse and keyboards that would not make much sense for me, and the Couchmaster does the very same job with whatever keyboard/mouse combo I'd ever would want to throw at it :)
No thanks, MSI says you should with these cards, but it just looks too bad.. The sag looks better and also keeps top card backplate off the CPU Fan-bracket :)
The armored PCI-slots can take the weight even if it sags a bit :)
I'd pick the PC every time :D
Speakers comes in pairs :) or else I'd be silly to not buy two of those :D
My build was prior to the TR-4 Socket-release :D
And I went with fast cores over many - so quite the opposite actually :)
It seems you didn't read neither the description nor the comments before posting :)
It seem to have up to 120hz - not sure if it does so in HD, but it can do 120Hz. It also has an imput lag of avg 20 - which is acceptable for livingroom gaming (on par with Samsung TV's which are known for low input lag) yet it still is a bit behind gaming monitors which is preferred 2-4ms - but this is common, and for singleplayer, coop, casual multiplayer etc. it's perfectly fine :) My gaming monitors are also BenQ :)
Thanks for sharing this gem :D
This is what Love is right there, love for custom PC :)
I love the Bumblebee, and also the full setup with the tripple monitor for work, and larger TV for entertainment :)
what TV is it? what's the input lag? - I have a somewhat similar setup, so I'm curious :) I love playing on the TV, but for competitive FPS gameplay I still prefer my 144hz 4ms gaming monitors.
:D Even the Wii U benefits from the rest of the setup indeed, split screen Mario Kart is very nice :) do you have any experience with the Switch? Is it worth... Switching? ;)
Beauty and the Beast :)
For a comparison of the water-build you have I've done a build in the same case, but on air.
My build runs around 50 degrees Cpu and Gpu when not gaming hard on it, and 70 on both when gaming hard.
When not gmaing hard the computer is completely silent even when you put your ear all up to the case, while at hard gaming you certainly hear the build, yet a lot more quiet than any previous pc I've built.
I'm not well schooled in water cooling, but air is still used to cool the rads, and wont the reservoir block much of any potentional airflow-path? At least for my air-cooled build the main objective was to keep a good airflow between intake/outtake that would pass the heating components. Was just thinking maybe the airflow is the hinderance since you said removing top and front cover made a big impact, sounds like it's the air that is the bottleneck, and not the waterloop part?
Very good job on the build. Oh and mind that my build is a 7700K non-overclocked running two 1080Ti's - so my total heat production will be smaller than yours..
Here I could not :) I did spreadsheets of the cheapest available RAM for each speed from the Norwegian stores on the day I bought them, and got the ones that was the cheapest :) 'More powerful' means? Combined CAS and Speed could not have been better without upping voltages on the RAM. As mentioned many times earlier - remember Norway and the US does not have the same prices for computer parts.
Living and Dining area combined makes for a quite large Living-room for two people :) and I like the shape as it gets you close to the screen. For audio purposes the size of the room is also right (though he shape and placement isn't). Usually one would have a media room dedicated to the home cinema, and maybe later I will - however it's very nice to have it in the living room itself - as it makes us use it for everyday everything :)
I'm actually happy with the cable management :) No custom sleeves which bends easily etc. but does not clutter up and velcroed on the back
You're right, it's adjustable in tilt, roll and pan - and I had it rolled a bit to the right when I took the pictures :) Good observation :D
Sorry, don't have Team Fortress 2 :)
Congrats, that is one Epic build :D
I love the execution and thought that has gone into the build. and great to make her her own PC like that.
(also nice with the homework/chores rule)
Absolutely well worth the feature - thanks for sharing :)
I don't have a car. And the speaker system and TV is crucial parts of the Home Theater Gaming Setup (which is what's listed) and the "couch" you refer to is the NerdyTec's CouchMaster, a wonderful addition which makes gaming from the couch a breeze, highly recommended :)
If both are 60hz, then 4K will be better (but look into input lag of said monitors also - I find that rather important). If you run 120 or 144hz, then the 4K monitor would require you to dial down settings to benefit from it, as the top games today run 60-70FPS on Ultra in 4K with those cards. Remember to run windows at 150% or so scale if going 4K, as some ui objects gets very small in 4K :)
Yeah very happy with the living room. it functions well as both home theater, music listening and gaming. It is the first proper TV and Stereo I've gotten after I was done studying, so I figured to go proper right away. Spent quite some time researching and listening to pick the right parts for the sound system - computer stuff I already knew much about from building lots of computers, but did much research on how to get the computer completely silent when not gaming (and yet quiet while gaming) while still being able to pull off 60fps at 4K on ultra settings in high-end games - and the TV was the right pick at the moment as it has a low input lag (for a 4K TV) - so I'm really pleased with all the parts in the living room :)
I've recently gone with Seagate Expansion Portable. And I always stay away from the drives which use external power. Most important for them to survive is to avoid vibration of the drive, and to safe disconnect (even if life is too short to safely disconnect drives). :)
For backup I'd likely go with a 1TB external hdd which can be stored off the machine. if something like overcurrent is to kill your data you anyway don't want it inside the same pc that got fried in the first place :D Myself I use the cheapest dropbox-account for 1TB online backup - but an external drive will be a cheaper sollution. :)
Love your build :) Nice components.
I'd not go with HDD's for upgrade as they will add noise and usualy block airflow - a NAS seem like a very good idea though :D
Haven't gotten to try that yet, so many games to play. I've bought and installed it though - but only gone through settings as of yet :)
88500 USD is what that car cost in Norway - to give perspective of the price differences.. (and that's the clean starting-price)
Lovely build, as custom as they get :D
I like how you used Sketchup to model the build before building it, I did the same with my build even if it's not custom at all - to ensure I had clearance for the parts.
Remember to warn people before entering your office ;)
Pretty thing :D
The cost is about what people spend on a car. I neither want or need a car. So it's really more about priority than anything else.
if clocked right I'm sure it can..
yeah, I figured this would be the best way to be able to both reach the underside of the Cpu Heatsink and top at the same time while tightening it - as I was building it alone :)
Sweet build :) nice parts and good looks.
I think it fits your cozy gaming corner very well :)
uhm, you also get a car for $3,000 US..
and you usually get what you pay for :)
There are 2x 1tb m.2 ssd as well as 1 tb sata ssd, so a total of 3tb. With already 25tb on the office computer I don't really need tons of storage on the home theatre gaming rig. And I avoided hdd as they would make sound, and likely malfunction as they are all up by the righ hand sub
More of the cables would be too short, but power is the worst to 'extend'. Even if it would go out mid-wall it would need 80cm+ extra slack as i often push the tv 60cm out from the wall, plus swivel it to see the tv from the dining area. Subs come with calibration setup through mic, plus I use audyssey on the Denon to solve much for the room lackings. Sure it will not be perfect, but it gets really good. One in the back would not work well with the room layout, itd simply look bad. No given setup is sure to be good with every room, with subs its often about moving and rerun the testsounds to see what the frequencies read, then move and try again, or more for this setup I did tweaking of the subs frequency settings to get a smooth as possible curve while also going as deep as they could.
For threatment there is just the curtains, blinds, carpet and sofa. I wont add bass traps or other abdorbees/diffusers as this is the common living room. I just dont find it fitting there. If I later build a room focused on media, then the room shape, setup and decoration would build more around that performance :)
I've done internal cabling for the rear speakers - and I'd love a whote/transparent cable for the TV - the new Samsungs come with this - however, the power cord is still black.. The issue with a cable hider is that I pull the TV 60 cm into the room - which makes the cords not long enough if they were to meet at the center then go back to where they need. I was thinking to make it internal in the wall - but since I plan on moving later down the road I didn't want to make a hole on the middle of the wall - after all I dont know if the next owner want the TV at this wall - the previous owner didn't - but I totally agree that it should be hidden.. I wish for the most part that white cables would become standard for all cabling - 90% of all walls are usually white, how many are black? For the JL one will have the power no problem - the reason I went with two is to even out these peak-frequencies - with two subs the tops and bottoms of some frequencies will be evened out by the second.
Those are what prices are in Norway. Gpus are down $30 here now since then
and for good reasons, watercooling wouldn't have made the cut for this builds goal. :)
you'll see why in the description. I spent much time looking at both air and water cooling, and while water is the best thing to do if you look for pure power and overclock while staying quiet - it can't beat a air-cooled system running at moderate power which get's completely silent. If I wanted an even more quiet system during heavy gaming - then water would make sense - but it would also result in minor sound during idle, which was not ok for me this time around.
you are right. though the pci slots are both "armored" and should handle it - and the sli-bridge also helps stabilise.
since the top gpu already touch the fan-pin of the cpu-cooler I'm not really looking to make it get even closer.. so the small sag will stay :)
Well, it's a good thing it will be just as sweet to play with when one get's home :D
Thanks, you rig looks nice too :) And I like the pika hiding in one of your pictures :D
Even the Xbox One plays 4k blu ray movies, however 4K gaming is another story indeed :)
That seem like a nice product, I also looked at the Roccat Sova - however both these designs have an integrated keyboard which is locked in one position - I game with the keyboard at an 25-30° angle - and like to be able to use my Roccat keyboard which allows for unique key-combos together with the Roccat mouse.
But if those things are not a concern the Lapdog seem very nice.
CPU is 50°C at idle, 60-70°C while gaming.
GPU is also 50°C at idle, bottom card 65°C and top card 70°C while playing Wildlands 4K Ultra - though in many gaming scenarios the top card will reach 80°C and the bottom card will then be 5-10°C below this.
prisjakt.no shows the lowest possible price over time in Norway - (this is not a key reseller - prisjakt does not sell anything but only picks up prices from all around the country to display the cheapest) thats a good place to go if you'd like to compare those prices.
The graphics cards were bough from the first shop that could deliver them here in Norway, as I bought the card day 1. which is also the largest seller of pc-parts in the country. Their price for the GTX 1080 Ti MSI Gaming X is still the same '1020$'. I can't post a direct link as pcpp then deletes the comment, but it's really easy to look it up if you are that concerned about the prices put up. There are today possible to get the card for as low as 985, meaning that if I had waited for a week I could have saved 35$ per card - but when I put up the build I place the cost of the parts where I bought them, at the time that I bought them.
It's rather easy to look this up yourself by going to the Norwegian websites.
I bought it for 12999 nkr here in Norway, which translates pretty much exactly to 1500$. It says in the description that prices in Norway in general is higher than for instance in the US.
I was also looking at water cooling, but the fact that I wanted a completely silent idle build ruled that out. :) as I dont do any overclock it's also not neccesary, the quiet air cooling keeps up with everything perfectly :)
I' using HDMI through the reciever, which then sends the picture to the Tv, and sound to the speakers. This is the simplest, but also the best way to connect as it carries a much higher bandwidth than s/pdif, and supports higher res audio.
Not here in Norway, here the price of that card comes at 1000$, and is not in stock.
In general prices for all things are more expensive in Norway than most places, though income is also generally higher. So I'd be able to save 20$ by going with a card I could not control with the same software as the motherboard - which would be a bad deal as I see it.
For me it was either going with MSI both for motherboard and gpus, or Asus for both - as both of these are compatible with the same lighting setup as the Case - Evga does not have that, and as far as I know they also do not have a motherboard that allows the two gpu's to be this many spaces apart. (the last point could be wrong, but I've not seen such a motherboard from them with Z270).