I explain in the description why I went with air cooling for this build :)
Sure is, I enjoy it every day :D
I blame Steam sales really... :D
And since I do all my recording in 4K, videos I shoot also eats up a huge amount of TBs :D
Thanks, it's working out real nice for it :)
Lovely comment :)
The DoomGuy Plush is actually a gift from a friend of mine. We have been making Doom-maps for each others for a few years now. (For the old Doom II, Hell on Earth) with new levels, monsters, weapons etc.
I like that you noticed him, he is watching over my setup :D
Oh yeah... I see it when browsing the entire board.. which has gotten long! I reply to all the questions coming my way in the message list, guess deleted comments just does not show up there :)
Hm, what do people write that gets deleted? I haven't gotten any message about deleted messages on the board.
It's not at all overkill? With modern games at Ultra settings and 4K you will not get much above 60 FPS minimum with 1080Ti SLI, usualy it's in the 70-80's which is pretty much perfect for 60hz gaming. as soon as 120Hz comes with HDMI 2.1 TV's, it will already be time for a GPU upgrade.
A single 1080Ti will in pretty much every demanding game run at minimum FPS well below 60, and some even with avg. FPS below 60fps :)
I believe CPU fan is connected to CPU fan, and pwu hub to fan1 or fan2 or whichever was the closest
yep, because it is better for my use :)
If you read the description you will understand why it is :)
No thanks, and my local theatre is running fine :D
quoting from the description of the build:
"but things are usually a bit pricey here in Norway compared to say the US, so depending on where you are the price for such a rig can vary."
Thanks, it has served me very well so far - but done a few small upgrades. Got more SSD storage now. I'm very pleased with how it's completely silent when not gaming :)
Ah, this really warm my heart :D Such an excellent build, excellent room and lovely work put into setting it all up as such. Most just get a build together and settle with that, you went not just an extra mile - but it seem you put down lots of planing and work into all of it, and it looks like a dream :D (the cooling looks like a pipe-dream too) :p
1: i9 didn't even exist when this build was made.
2: while it has loads of cores, each core runs slower than the fastest i7's, not making them faster for most games which does not benefit from all those extra slower cores. - hopefully this is about to change though :)
I don't have a car ;)
as soon as you are 30 years old and work 38 hours a week, 2500 bucks wont seem farfethed at all anymore _^
They do excellent. one would not be able to run most games on high settings at 60fps 4K, but two does it :)
it sags slitghtly, which helps the backplate keeping from touching the CPU-fan, so it's a much welcome sag :D I did look at card holders, but they just look too bad.. and the Motherboard has pci slots which are reinforced to hold heavy cards, so it's fine :)
Ah, Already got the New Roccat Equalant to the old one - with better M sensor, and better setup for keyboard - they are both awesome :)
Norway has a different price point than the US :)
glad you found my build useful :)
and if you read the text you will see why ;)
No, the setup is best shared :D
Instead of going to a special room dedicated to being just a theater, I can sit in my living room which is the natural meeting point for dining, talking, visits, watching TV, watch movies, play music, play games, have a party etc. etc. - the idea of a separate media room is good enough, and was my initial thought, but I really enjoy how it's now an integrated part of the living room rather than separate :) And rows of seats.. why would I need that? this is my home, not some venue I rent out :)
For 4K Gaming I'd say it's quite right on mark :) It can do 60fps on max settings mostly, but will stay between 60-70 which is fine on 60hz - As soon as we get 4k 120hz you'd want more juice, though it's hard to get at the moment. 2018 will be very good for HC-gaming I think :)
Show's you don't need a huge budget and the beefiest components to make an awesome build :) Love the color theme and the story of the build - Thanks for sharing this build :)
Dali Rubicon 8 is the largest member of the Rubicon family, one of the higher end speakers from Dali. I use those as the Gaming Home Cinema's front speakers, paired up with Rubicon 5 in the back and Rubicon Vokal in the center.
I chose these speakers after having many trips to various hi-fi stores and listening to speakers from a lot of different companies. In the end there where two set of speakers I liked specially, and those where the Bowers & Wilkins CM10, and the Dali Rubicon 8. I got an arrangement and got to borrow a set both the series to listen for a weekend in my own livingroom, and set them up for a good long music listen - I connected thm to A and B output on the amp so I could swap back and forth and compare those speakers. I didn't actually pick a clear winner by any means, but found Rubicon 8 to be very the "winner" in mids and lows, where B&W had an edge on the highs - but ultimately went with Rubicon 8.
Sorry for the wall of text :)
They are priced relatively similar to other speakers that perform about the same, and where you can go down to a cheaper serie and save a good amount of money, you also hear the difference right away when you compare them. I'd say the Rubicon 8 is certainly good for music lovers, but they are not up there with the "crazy enthusiast only" segment :) - As I live in Norway, and Dali originates in Denmark, it's also a fairly known brand here, while in the US maybe not so much - though the subwoofers I got should be fairly well known over there, and was not as easy to get a hold on up in Norway.
Faulty build list.. parts are not compatible, prices are wrong, and most of it wont even fit on the motherboard.. why even post such a list..?
Then who will you enjoy movie nights with? :o
I installed the RAM before the CPU-cooler, which is always a good thing, and I also made sure to have low profile memory. I also only went with 2 sticks of ram since it's only dual channel on this socket anyway - and thus I should be able to swap out memory if needed without having to remove the CPU-Cooler. (I'd only have to temporarily remove the plastic fan hovering over the two RAM-sticks) This is also since I installed the RAM into the two slots I did (2 and 4) rather than 1 and 3. About Case you should check bequiet's website and just check the measures towards the max clearance for fan coolers on the case-website. And also google (or look here at pcpp) to find people who already built with the combo you look for to ensure you won't have issues. As my picttures show my closest calls were the GPU1 backplate, and SLI Bridge corner - both of which almost touch the CPU heatsink (cpu-fan pins actually touch backplate, so I placed tape on them to ensure to shortout, but should not be needed) - But this is all a result of me picking a motherboard with the rare setup of placing GPU1 in Pci-slot 1, this is almost always placed in Pci-slot 2 which will then give plenty of space for the GPU :)
It's built and gotten a few minor upgrades. It works very well :)
These are just the first that pops up if I search for 7700k vs ryzen in gaming.. - so aparently you can no longer say that in every video you seen the ryzen were better for gaming..
Benchmarks can actually favour the multi-cores as they tens to be based around testing gpu and cpu power combined, though in actual gaming performance few fast cores is simply better, and the reason is simple, game engines are rarely utilizing loads of cores.. it's been like this always, and while we have expected it to change for a few years, it hasn't. It is getting close, and with the new multi-core cpu's being able to run fewer cores at a higher speed when needed they are closing in.. The important thing to remember is that for things like rendering or compiling media, a threadripper is likely to be up to 10 times faster than a 7700K, so in no way is the new ryzens bad by any means, but saying they beat 7700K in gaming is just wrong :)
I hope that explains the picks for the build, in addition to those parts not even being there when the build was done (the 7700K also beat all the more expensive multi-core intel parts, as they just like the new ryzen, has core-count but not the core-speed to show for)
Nope, I think of how games dont care much about throwing more cores at them, but high single core clock speeds they love. Fact is that games don't spread the workload over lots of cores, and thus the few cores it is able to use pays of running faster. Check some youtube videos on 7700k vs 1800x or even threadripper 1950x and you'll see both get's smoked in game-tests simply because they are too slow on clockspeeds . the same goes with intels cpu's with high core-count but lower hz, they simply underperform in games.
On top of that high core-count means more power drawn, meaning more heat produced, resulting in a louder and hotter computer, which does not count well towards a silent build. So even if I see why you think loads of cores could be better, it simply isnt for this build. Going with many cores would be the right way to go for any non-gaming oriented builds, but this isnt one of them :)
Both which has slower clocks and makes more heat, making them worse for silent gaming :)
Not to mention none of those existed in april :)
Ah, The core computer should be no more than 4-5000$ with hifi and tv adding the big chunk, and it wasn't really intended to get all the attention for it's price, but more for the high performance combined with silent operation which I'm really pleased with. :)
Not sure why non-game related builds are posted onto the wall of my build - how does it relate to my build?
I didn't want it flashy, I wanted it to match the speakers, and with the led's turned down or off it does so very well :) It also provides a good airflow :)
All that load of bull**** is the heart of the Home Theater Gaming Setup, the case with content is indeed just a fraction of the price, and also the part that is likely to need an upgrade first - Tv, speakers etc. is likely to last for a long time.
I prefer Roccat over Razer :) Awesome gear
That build would be inferior for gaming though, which is what this build is centered around :) And quite likely far from silent
I should also mention that I got a Logitech M235 mouse and a K830 Illuminated Living-Room keyboard which both run on Bluetooth, though not listed here as they are secondary, used for when listening to music etc, and not used for any gaming - well except games like Heartstone etc.
I could have gone wireless on the mouse, as good gaming mice start coming up without cable, however none proper gaming keyboard with mechanical switches and custom profiles seem to exist as of yet, so that's the reason it's still wired. And since the cable to the keyboard then already goes to the couch master, there is no point to use a cabled mouse as both keyboard and mouse use the usb hub inside the couch master :) That also does not restrict my choice of mice, as the one I preferred and wanted does not come in wireless version :D Also, I'm not sure I'd go with bluetooth if I were to go wireless, there are better tech's that are not as easily interfered (signal). :)
One card is able to do 4K with a few compromises on settings, two does 4K 60fps ultra, I got one rig running a single card and one running two. In order to play with res-scale on for 8k I need to turn down some settings in heavy games, but 4K monitor 2,5 meter away (75") looks very sharp in 4K :)
Do you have a car? then you likely already spent more than I did on this ;) And if you also got kids, then you likely spent way more..
It's about priority really :) I love computers, music and movies, so that's what I invest in :)
ooh, this in nice and custom :D
The second best of the ones I tried was pretty much the same price - as with most things you get what you pay for (certainly when you get to a point you pay insane premium for very little gain - but this is far from enthusiast class speakers, it's not even the highest in the Dali series, which cost quite a bit more). I've done several months of speaker-listening before deciding for those, and I brought multiple speaker-sets of the ones I liked the sound of back to my own living room for live testing. So I certainly know that for 10% of the price I would not get the sound I have today. A car costing 10% will also get you from A to B, but spending more to get one that actually performs alright is not a waste.. :) A waste would be spending on something you don't need, or wont use - I enjoy the sound of this setup every single day - so it's hardly a waste ;)
For gaming... yes.. 2.3 GHz isn't really great for much gaming. - but it has tons of monitors and harddrives _^
has some compability issues it seem though, with graphics cards requiring drive bays to go out, which will then be a problem since it seem to use all the drive bays for storage
I'm not a master race, I just love gaming, regardless of platform :D
I currently got a Wii U, but look to possibly grab the Switch.
Also I was looking at the PS4 Pro, but finding out it can't play UHD Blu-ray (which even the current Xbox can) I skipped it. I may go for the new Xbox upgrade when it launches, as I want to go for a console rather than buying a uhd blu-ray player.
For PS we will have to see.. I MUST have Final Fantasy VII remake when it comes, while Red Dead Redemption I hope will release on PC as I don't really enjoy FPS on a gamepad, but still the previous RD was awesome. The Wii U is btw amazing on the large TV, splitscreen is mint as both can see everything clearly - same goes with Dirt3 on PC there. - for driving I use the gamepad, even on the PC :)