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Magnificent Intel Gaming Guide

by ThoughtA

NOTE: A more recent version of this guide is available here.

Description

Theme

This build follows a striking black and white color aesthetic. In light of that, a number of part selection decisions were influenced in pursuit of this aesthetic, while impacting cost and performance as little as possible.

CPU and Cooler

At this budget, we're running an i5-8600K. This hex-core CPU features an unlocked multiplier for easy and often significant overclocking. While not all games will benefit from overclocking, games like Overwatch and Battlefield 1 can benefit significantly from a faster CPU. Overclocking can also help your CPU stave off obsolescence for a good while longer.

To make the most of the overclockability, we're adding the Fractal Design Celsius S24 liquid cooler, which will really let you push the CPU.

Motherboard

We're using a parametric selection of motherboards that keep with a black and white theme. The parametric selection will actively choose the best-priced motherboard of the group. All motherboards in the group use the Z370 chipset, which allows the i5-8600K to be overclocked. Additionally, they all have 4 DDR4 DIMM slots and are capable of using the CPU's integrated GPU, in case you need to RMA your GPU or are waiting for a sale or upgrade of using the CPU's integrated GPU.

Memory

For memory, we're filtering for the best-priced 2x8GB kit of DDR4 RAM that would match a black and white build and also is 2666 or faster. Feel free to click the "From parametric filter" link to see the various options and pick a color that suits you.

Storage

We're also using a parametric filter that will actively select the best-priced SSD of at least 500GB capacity. Additionally, we're including a 3TB mechanical hard drive in a parametric filter for things like storing media and extra games. Everyone's storage needs differs, so feel free to change the capacity to your heart's desire.

GPU

Our GPU is the very popular GeForce GTX 1080 Ti. This is currently one of the fastest single GPU video cards in the market - you may want to look into a 120-144Hz and/or 2560x1440 resolution monitor for this bad boy. The parametric filter is set for the best-priced 1080 Ti available, but feel free to click the "From parametric filter" link to browse our listing of 1080s Tis. For those interested in VR, the GTX 1080 Ti will have no problem playing any and and all applications currently on the market.

Due to the high cost of GPUs and low availability, we are using a parametric filter for a GeForce GTX 1080 Ti with a max price set. With patience and vigilance, you can find a video card for around this price, and we want to provide a part list that is more accurate to this concept.

Case

All of our parts are on display in the Corsair Crystal 570X RGB. The first thing you'll notice about this case is lots of glass. There's glass on nearly every side of the case, including behind the motherboard backpanel! It really looks gorgeous in person, though you may wish to pick up a microfiber cloth for fingerprints (you should have one for your monitor anyway).

The Crystal 570X can everything you'll want for this build. It features 2x USB 3.0 ports, can fit even large PSUs and CPU coolers, and, of course, it can fit full sized video cards.

PSU

Powering the build is a sparse selection of some of the most well-reviewed PSUs available - all without breaking the bank. All of them are certified 80+ Gold and either semi-modular or fully-modular.

AMD Version

Here is the AMD version of our Magnificent Gaming Guide..

Part List Customize This Part List

Compatibility Check: No issues/incompatibilities found.

Estimated Wattage: 151W
Component Selection Base Promo Shipping Tax Price Where
CPU €289.00 €9.95 €298.95 Komplett Buy
CPU Cooler
Motherboard
No Matches Available
Memory
From parametric filter
  • Speed: DDR4-2666, DDR4-2800, DDR4-3000, DDR4-3200, DDR4-3300, DDR4-3333
  • Type: 288-pin DIMM
  • Size: 16GB (2x8GB)
  • Heat Spreader: Yes
  • Color: Black, Black/Gray, Black/Silver, Black/White, White, White/Gray, White/Silver
€110.78 €110.78 Custompc Buy
Storage
From parametric filter
  • Capacity: 500 GB - 10000 GB
  • Type: SSD
€65.96 €65.96 Custompc Buy
From parametric filter
  • Capacity: 3000 GB - 10000 GB
  • Type: 7200RPM
  • Interface: SATA 6 Gb/s
  • Form Factor: 3.5"
€86.55 €86.55 Custompc Buy
Video Card
No Matches Available
From parametric filter
  • Chipset: GeForce GTX 1080 Ti
  • Length: 224 mm - 403 mm
Case €189.00 €9.95 €198.95 Komplett Buy
Power Supply €210.19 €210.19 Custompc Buy
Base Total: €951.48
Shipping: €19.90
Total: €971.38
* Using your selected merchants and only including nearby in-store pickup prices)
* Some physical dimension restrictions cannot (yet) be automatically checked, such as cpu cooler / RAM clearance with modules using tall heat spreaders.

Comments Sorted by:

arthurh 7 points 14 months ago

this is literally the pc im building in a week but im getting an i7 8700k instead

FurriiChan 1 point 14 months ago

How much more does that cost? Just curious.

RichardMalfitano 4 points 14 months ago

From $260 to $370, so $110 extra.

MechaToaster 1 point 13 months ago

dude same

droh 1 point 13 months ago

did you build it? if so, can I see a picture of it? I might build the same one this looks sick

Exavier11 4 points 15 months ago

Mate, thats a i5-8600k not a i7

ThoughtA staff submitter 9 points 15 months ago

Thanks for the correction!

acewingman 2 points 15 months ago

Need to update the Motherboard section as you mention the i7 instead of the i5...

Motherboard

We're using a parametric selection of motherboards that keep with a black and white theme. The parametric selection will actively choose the best-priced motherboard of the group. All motherboards in the group use the Z370 chipset, which allows the i7-8700K to be overclocked. Additionally, they all have 4 DDR4 DIMM slots and are capable of using the CPU's integrated GPU, in case you need to RMA your GPU or are waiting for a sale or upgrade of using the CPU's integrated GPU.

stalewind 1 Build 1 point 15 months ago

I know you meant i5 8600K, description said it all. Maybe the 570 White from New Egg would compliment the color scheme. Also the Trident (non RGB) black/white kit would also enhance the artistic appeal to the build https://pcpartpicker.com/product/4n648d/gskill-tridentz-series-16gb-2-x-8gb-ddr4-3200-memory-f4-3200c16d-16gtzkw but the white kit you have is 40 bucks less so never mind.

Metalwolfy 2 points 14 months ago

This build looks amazing and I'm considering building it, but are there any cheaper options for the GPU? Will going with like a 1080 6gb hurt the rest of the build at all?

grey_line 5 points 14 months ago

With all the crypto currency mining going on lately, it's generally a bad time to buy a GPU unfortunately.

llamafacelukas 1 Build 4 points 14 months ago

It's honestly one of the worst times I've ever seen to be building a new PC.

Be better right now to just go with building a 1050 Ti setup, or even a DDR3 configuration ,and wait a few years until the world is done being stupid crypto-mining.

Kyoma 3 points 13 months ago

Honestly, if you look up how people build these giants bitcoin farms on China literally hundreds and hundreds gpu’s farming cryptocoins, when i saw that it became very clear that this will not end anytime soon, the only choice we have for now is to go with Nvidia’s solution of buying on their online store, reference cards are not the best but it is better than an 800-1,000.00$ 1060-1080(i hope amd will come with a similar solution too), literally i worked so hard to save up for my new pc build and these happened. On top of that the ram manufacters are doing fishy stuff again(price fixing), things like that just ruin everything for new people wanting to enter this community.

llamafacelukas 1 Build 2 points 13 months ago

I notice if I watch Amazon close enough, I can get Amazon Warehouse prices for 1060 6GB's (~$290) and buy it pre- order. It seems the 1070's and higher I can never find for close to stock prices at all anymore. Bitcoin is in a big bubble right now, and as with stock markets, it will only be able to rally so high before it comes crashing down. Its own volatility will be its own undoing. Until it stabilizes, there are options but very limited. Since I can find ok prices for that 1060 6GB through Amazon I'll get that and slowly start over piece by piece, where ever I can find decent pricing. I'm not holding my breath these price spikes are going to end anytime soon, so I'm going to just dive back in and save as much as I can.

ImightbeaPineapple 1 point 13 months ago

Same here, I was gonna get a 1500 dollar setup with a 1060 6gb, then ram and gpu prices rose and i just went to a normal 1050

liimbix 1 point 12 months ago

I just finished my build with a 6GB 1060, I got it for $350 on Newegg like 10 minutes before it sold out, best decision ever, I love my PC

ImightbeaPineapple 1 point 13 months ago

Lol Agreed!

TomTheMan -5 points 13 months ago

the mining will never stop. ;)

Blu2K 4 points 13 months ago

I've been planning on a similar build with the GTX 1080 but I've just had so much trouble finding adequate prices or in-stock GPUs. I just hate how the crypto mining is just driving GPUs to such high demands.

llamafacelukas 1 Build 1 point 13 months ago

I'm going to be putting the blame square on the shoulders of those companies on Amazon and such pricing their 1070's at $700-$800. No matter what card it is, it's over-priced by at least $200 right now thanks to those companies. However, the Crypto mining "economy" is very over-inflated in a bubble, and just like the American economy did back in 2008, it will collapse to balance itself out. PC component prices will do so also in time.

FredDenny 2 points 13 months ago

You can get a gtx 1080 for $600 from evga if you buy one of their bundles. I bought a gtx 1080 with one of their cpu liquid coolers for like 709, not bad at all https://www.evga.com/products/featured-bundles.aspx

llamafacelukas 1 Build 1 point 13 months ago

No kidding. That's good to know, thanks. If I get an ASUS brand from BandH company, that'll run me about $700 by itself. Might as well get the CPU cooler for around the same price.

Yognaught_Ace 2 Builds 1 point 13 months ago

wow that's nice to know, i'll have to tell my friend to be looking out for the restock cause hes been looking for a 1060 and there on there for $440 with a CPU liquid cooler

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darkben9 0 points 13 months ago

go to evgas site thay have the gtx 1080 for 545 or somthing like that

darkben9 1 point 13 months ago

opps i meant nvidia

Blu2K 1 point 13 months ago

I just went there and instead of an "Add to Cart" button it showed a "Notify Me" button. Out of stock maybe? This wasn't only in the Nvidia site, I saw it in EVGA for a while now too.

LenyLeninLen 0 points 13 months ago

Some pre-built PC's comes with their GPU at msrp prices.

rebel5cum 3 points 14 months ago

The 1070 and 1070ti are right in the 1440p 60fps range in terms of performance. The 1080 is kind of the overkill 1440p card. It won't play everything at 4k 60fps. If you are going to be playing at 1080p, the 1060 6GB will be great.

OneShotKillx 1 point 13 months ago

if you go for a gtx 1080 make sure that it isn't over priced. if it is over $600 then you should abandon the idea of buying a gpu at this time with the current market. In this part list the gpu used to be about $750+ now it almost the price of a Titan X. Sadly right now is the worst time to build a computer in recent times.

stormage 1 point 13 months ago

It's actually better price/performance in this market to just buy a titan xP, still not a good idea but it's just funny how that works right now.

Machine094 1 point 13 months ago

Won't hurt the rest of the build. Just be mindful that the GPU in this build is liquid cooled which requires the radiators to be installed somewhere in the case. I would suggest going for EVGA Hybrid 1080 as it is liquid cooled and almost the same dimensions.

sawyerboi 0 points 13 months ago

nope it wont at all tbh i see the 1080 it as a lil over kill but thts me as it costs the same as a car and im cheap

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Galligan 1 point 15 months ago

I want to build a pc but I have no clue parts are compatible. My concern is when I buy parts, they will not work or fit together. I want to be able to buy the parts, put them together and then install windows without any cutting or reordering of parts. Can anyone help me?

tragiktimes101 1 Build 8 points 15 months ago

2 things you can do. First is your build list on this website will throw up incompatibility warnings on nearly all items that aren't compatible (a few can fall through the cracks).

The second thing you can do is once you have a list, post it in the "part list opinions" forum section. Ask if everything is compatible. The people there will help you quickly.

Mtthwmths 2 Builds 2 points 13 months ago

I'm gonna piggyback on this comment to say that you can also search for the motherboard website using google (or similar) and under the support section they sometimes list a QVL for M.2 drives and RAM. :)

Lobsterareawesome 8 Builds 3 points 14 months ago

PCPP will usually automatically tell you if the part list is incompatible. But just to make sure you can post your part list on the forum here and ask for opinions

biggkenny 2 points 15 months ago

Chuck your parts list on the forums and people will let you know if they arent compatible

M1N1_Raptor7 0 points 14 months ago

I looked at ur save build every thing is good just get an good gpu and ur cpu should be like an 7600k or go up to the 8600k if u have more money

LonghornAlamo2040 1 point 15 months ago

I can get behind this. I would just swap the case and HDD for something of my preference-HOLD ON, A 650W PSU?! REALLY?? THAT'S OK?

ThoughtA staff submitter 4 points 15 months ago

Haha yep!

LonghornAlamo2040 1 point 15 months ago

O.O

What about two 1080's or 1080Ti's?

ThoughtA staff submitter 3 points 15 months ago

With two 1080 Tis, I'd probably be most comfortable with an 850W PSU. You definitely couldn't use a 650W unit.

You can add the parts to a list and check what our wattage calculator says and go from there.

LonghornAlamo2040 1 point 15 months ago

I figured the Ti's would be best with 850w. I know we have the wattage calculator, I just don't fully trust it because it's just an estimate and it doesn't account for the factory overclocks. Or does it?

ThoughtA staff submitter 3 points 15 months ago

If the manufacturer reports a higher than normal TDP, we factor that into the wattage calculation.

dwang040 2 Builds 2 points 15 months ago

Did you know, that a system with two 1080s in sli only use around 450W??? Well, now you know!

mfort312@gmail.com 1 point 15 months ago

Why don't the 8x00 series Intel CPUs show up on the list of compatible CPUs for this build?

Jaxyn_Logan 1 point 14 months ago

Hi I might say if you have the money for a build like that upgrade to a I-7 because it would be useful for other things also like myabe YouTube

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Lobsterareawesome 8 Builds 4 points 14 months ago

i think he means video editing

hwill12345 1 point 14 months ago

What are the thoughts on bumping to an i7-8770k, are the performance increases insignifigant? I've heard its better for multitasking and multi monitor setups which is big to me.

HarambeOurSavior 1 point 14 months ago

tbh i dont think theres THAT much of a diffrence in performance. But in cost theres a diffrence of $124 lol

ExtremeBeginner 1 point 14 months ago

Why that 1080Ti over the 1080Ti mini?

Lobsterareawesome 8 Builds 4 points 14 months ago

that Ti probably has a better cooler

ziffle 1 Build 1 point 14 months ago

Should really focus on an I7 in this build :P

HarambeOurSavior 1 point 14 months ago

why tho?

skoop321 1 Build 1 point 14 months ago

When you are already spending $1500+ on a PC alone you should just go all out already.

BettyBoo42 1 point 14 months ago

There is no such thing as have to. You might aswell say "Hey, why spend $2500 on an i7 8700k 1080 ti sli build when you can build a threadripper". There is a fine balance on parts when it comes to value over performance. In terms of value, the i3 8350k is at a value never really seen before, where an i3 beats out every old i5 and i3 on the board along with most of Ryzens low end lineup, but it doesn't have the perfomance of the i5 8600k. Sam can be said with i5 8600k vs the i7 8700k, theres less value in the 8700k but much more performance, but in games that performance goes unnoticed as very few games don't use hyperthreading. So the i5 8600k is the perfect middleground.

tragiktimes101 1 Build 1 point 13 months ago

Why?

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ryandonovan617 1 point 14 months ago

Hi,I've never built or even had a PC before so please have some remorse for me. If I were to get all these parts and build the PC, it would be able to run all new games and stuff really well right? I'm assuming I't does but I wanted a bit of clarification. I would be using this for simply gaming, and maybe a bit of typing for school work. Is this build the way to go or not? Please let me know, and like I said earlier, I'm 100% new to this so don't flame me. Thanks.

Edit: Is there any parts I could change so it's not as expensive but still works as good?

HarambeOurSavior 1 point 14 months ago

I would suggest mess around with youtube vids and making parts lists whle also looking at reddit for build help. Please dont buy this as your first setup because you could probaly spend less to just game, and of course the games you play matters. Please dont spend $2k to play csgo or something lol. Also use things like userbenchmark and other stuff. Just because this can game doesnt mean it will suit your and be cost effective. Please research :)

tobiasjh 1 point 14 months ago

Yeah what are the games you are looking to play on your future pc and how much would you want to spend? How fantastic do you want it to be? Definitely think about what you want before you start buying. A good beginning for a medium pc that runs most games pretty well for a low cost is Ryzen 5 or 7 series with a GTX 1060. This setup is much less money and a good start. If you play low graphics games you can go a lot cheaper. Send me a message if you ever need some help with stuff.

BettyBoo42 1 point 14 months ago

Try using userbenchmark in combination with Youtube to get average perfomance numbers along with price and value and you should get a very nice answer at almost any price range.

Krumble1 1 point 14 months ago

Shouldn't the SSD parametric filter be from 480GB+? There are some SSDs that are slightly smaller than 500.

GM007 1 point 14 months ago

Why a blower style card.

BettyBoo42 1 point 14 months ago

Probably because of the case setup. The crystal has a bit iffy airflow so a blower makes sure the case is cooler because it acts like an extra exhaust fan.

wheelerj 1 point 14 months ago

WOW look how the prices of this build have increased.

MADBADBRADYT 1 point 13 months ago

Thanks to the Crypto Currency Miners. They are ruining PC gaming.

SamsPcmasterace 1 point 14 months ago

you did just choose the cheapest parts you want by setting the low to high filter without caring about performance

zsedwards2020 1 point 14 months ago

This would be nice, I just feel that they went way out there when it came to the GPU. No longer a budget option IMO with a near $1,000 GPU. You can get GPUs for 200 or 300 and then it'd be worth it.

ThoughtA staff submitter 1 point 14 months ago

Unfortunately, the price of GPUs has blown up big time very recently.

BettyBoo42 1 point 14 months ago

It seems like importing from overseas might be a good option. Prices in northern/central europe have risen very little after the crypto currency rush (due to much higher taxes, lower profits, etc.)

Lobsterareawesome 8 Builds 1 point 14 months ago

Can sb explain what i missed with GPUs? why are they so expensive?

BettyBoo42 1 point 14 months ago

Crypto currency mining. It is getting bigger by the day and people buy high end GPUs for their relatively inexpensive hashrate compared to dedicated miners.

hakunamatata21 1 point 14 months ago

I have a strong hatred for the case

Refusinq 1 point 14 months ago

Will this build also work with my GTX 1050 Ti?

Lobsterareawesome 8 Builds 1 point 14 months ago

Yes it would

Steve1466 1 point 14 months ago

idk why u picked these parts cuz they r **** boiii

hmdanx 1 point 14 months ago

The price of the video card is exaggerated, because the price of the company was only $ 699 I suggest waiting for a moment before buying a video card, because its price will be reduced after months

BettyBoo42 2 points 14 months ago

It might not, as crypto currency is becoming more popular by the day. Ever since bitcoin hit a value of near $20,000 the amount of miners has skyrocketed so don't be too sure that prices will change for the better. The same thing is happening to Nvidia and their resellers as happened to AMD Vega.

Jyrone 1 point 14 months ago

Pretty dope... but I would still prefer an AMD CPU since the whole bypass with Intel's. I don't trust Intel anymore.

Colob1473 1 point 14 months ago

Hey guys is this good for a first pc?

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/WxbMGf

Also do I need to pick an operating system and software?

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Colob1473 1 point 14 months ago

Thanks heaps, that list is cheaper too! Will this be able to run most games at high settings with a solid FPS?

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Colob1473 1 point 14 months ago

Thank you, this is my first time building a pc, that is why I don’t know much. Hopefully I don’t break anything trying to put it together.

dalgrim -1 points 14 months ago

AMD.... not even comparable to an Intel build... I completely agree with the 1070 choice but you'll be MUCH better off with a M.2 SSD instead of a SATA one. Yeah it is about $100 more for the same size but it is 4-5x faster.

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KhaosxTitan 1 point 14 months ago

People should step away from an Intel based system due to their hole in their security. With the new patch to fix the hole it slows your processing power to 2/3 or 1/2 of the original performance depending on the CPU. This goes for anything with an Intel based processor. With the update to fix this you can't deny updates on windows 10 so any other OS you are fine. Another problem is that if you have Windows 10 the updated turns AMD based systems into a brick making them not boot.

dalgrim 1 point 14 months ago

AMD and ARM have the same flaw....

KhaosxTitan 1 point 13 months ago

What flaw?

Ilikecoputrs 1 point 14 months ago

Jeez, GPUS are expensive rn

dalgrim 1 point 14 months ago

Only follow this guide if you've got money to burn. could build a similar performing system (still Intel) for about $1500. Lose the 1080ti, get a 1070 and upgrade the SSD to a M.2 960 evo. You'll save money and get better performance unless you've got 3 monitors and are trying to game on them in super wide screen.

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Hifihedgehog 1 point 13 months ago

Note: All GTX 1080 Ti's are out of stock, including the one listed at the displayed price, unless you want to spend $1200+/Titan-esque prices.

BarbeChenue 1 point 13 months ago

I followed your guide, purchased all items in Canada, except the disk drive (non-SSD) and the GPU. The 'Mining Rush' made prices impossibly high for the GeForce GTX 1080 Ti, and for just about every other option as well... I compared cards, weighting the costs vs performance, and I ended up buying a cheap (but weak) GeForce GT 1030, because I simply couldn't afford anything higher. There's a huge price gab right now between butget cards, that are still quite affordable, and midrange cards that miners also purchase. It was roughly 99$ in Canada. Going anywhere higher meant trippling costs.

I'm still looking forward to upgrading the GPU as soon as costs change, (if that ever happens)... The GPU being such an obvious bottleneck right now.

Thank you for your guide anyhow. The PC looks truly magnificient and I've managed an extremely stable OC @ 4800GHz with only 1,25 Vcore, and temperatures under Prime95 v26,6 under 73 max, averaging around 63.

MADBADBRADYT 1 point 13 months ago

Darn Crypto Miners are ruining PC gaming for us all. This build seems amazing but the GPU prices have spiked. I hope Bitcoin flops and GPU prices go down. Man this sucks so bad. :(

LiefMac 1 point 13 months ago

Is this a good pc build? I would appreciate any advice! https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/dV7ybj

KhaosxTitan 1 point 13 months ago

Yeah If you can afford it lol

supermattdab0ss 1 Build 1 point 13 months ago

This build guide: 8/10

I would personally go with an NZXT H series case I would also uses a samsung SSD and a 8700k and a Corsair cooler instead.

FreedomFighter4 1 point 13 months ago

Sadly the first thing I noticed looking at the part list was the price of that 1080Ti taking up half the cost of this build alone.

Asus - GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB STRIX GAMING Video Card | $1190.89 | [As of 1/27/2018]

Just oof. Anyways, the build is quite nice and nicely thought out. Thank you for the revisions and sharing.

lrobshaw 1 point 13 months ago

Beautiful Build! :D

ScenicJaguar101 1 point 13 months ago

what is the best 32gb memory for this build?

Gabesucks 1 point 13 months ago

$1199.78 What ?

RagingGamer1358 1 point 13 months ago

If you want to save $500 on this build, just buy the graphics card from Nvidia's site

https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/products/10series/geforce-gtx-1080-ti/

matthew.skrzycki 1 point 13 months ago

Is it worth building a $2000 PC if I have a ****** monitor? $2k is my hard limit, and my original plan was to build a $1500 PC with a $500 monitor, but now with RAM and GPU prices so high I wouldn't be able to get a PC with nearly the specs I could at this price. If If go for a $2k build, I probably wouldn't be able to get the monitor for another 1 or 2 years (college is expensive, man), so I would be stuck with this 720p, 60Hz, 16in, Viewsonic from 2009.

ThoughtA staff submitter 1 point 13 months ago

I would absolutely recommend adjusting your budget to make room for a monitor upgrade in your case.

andhypno 1 Build 1 point 13 months ago

i have all the parts now and i will build tomorrow but im unsure on how i can overclock is there a guide or something? cause i dont really know anything about overclock

Mineral 1 point 13 months ago

The Graphics cards out of stock on Memory lane. And now I can't even find the card on any other site for less than $1500 CAD.

Chinese 1 point 13 months ago

nvidia is selling gpus at rms prices on their website or so ive heard but you can only get stock cooler versions

demonslayer 1 point 12 months ago

Hi! I'm kind of a noob at computer building, I know this is a bad time for it with cryptowhatever, but my laptop is busted and it seems a desktop would be a better choice for my needs. I'd like to get something nice if I'm going to bother at all, but in the interest of affordability I was thinking about sticking with the 1060 6GB GPU for now, with the option of upgrading to something better in the future. I'd also like to do the i7-8700k CPU instead. Would following the rest of this build still be good for that?

RoundDuckMan 1 point 12 months ago

First, if you're just gaming, stay with the i5. These i5s are very capable at gaming and aren't far behind the i7 except in titles that are optimized for crazy amounts of cores, like Ashes of the BenchmarkTM :P And even then they aren't far behind, though those are also the kind of games that i9s and Threadrippers would win in.

If you aren't just gaming, take a look at your needs. In some cases, a Ryzen 1700 is better with more cores and being cheaper. In some cases, you might want the balance of high CPU power in the cores and single-thread performance instead, as you have more use cases besides gaming and at the same time got to have every dang frame, which is then where the i7 comes in.

Also how did your laptop got busted?

demonslayer 1 point 12 months ago

Thanks for your response! If you're terribly curious, the laptop was getting frequent BSOD which deteriorated to the point that it no longer boots. I tried to reinstall Windows but it just made the issue worse. I suspect it was a problem with either the SSD or the ram (the crash was always caused by the file system driver), though neither chkdsk or memtest were able to come up with any problems. Unfortunately the type of laptop I have does not make it easy to swap out individual parts, which was why I figured it might be better moving forward to build a machine with parts I can swap.

BattlePooP 4 Builds 1 point 12 months ago

Magnificent price

RoundDuckMan 1 point 12 months ago

It's so magnificent, that even the price is magnificent! :P

WyrmWolf130 1 Build 1 point 12 months ago

I like AMD more

Brood550 1 Build 0 points 15 months ago

Personally I'd go with a cheaper case and get a GPU that's not a blower....

MjolnirThunder 2 points 15 months ago

The GPU is because they have the parametric filter, so it automatically defaults to the cheapest option within the specs they have listed.

Brood550 1 Build -2 points 15 months ago

LOL, kind of defeats the point of posting a build guide then. Could just make that filter available to everyone and save the hassle of these.

Buildtimeboys 1 Build 2 points 15 months ago

The parametric filter is available for everyone...

These build guides are just so people have an idea of what you can build for a particular budget, as well as what parts are good for that budget.

Brood550 1 Build -8 points 15 months ago

That's all fine and dandy but with the price variation of the 1080ti it really doesn't help budget of the builder is trying to budget for this amount. Also, crucial is not a company I would feel comfortable with using either. Ordered RAM for a server 8 sticks of the same thing. 4 were Samsung sourced with heat spreaders the other 4 were unidentifiable without heat spreaders.

Buildtimeboys 1 Build 3 points 15 months ago

Yea, these builds are outlines at best. I have seen a fair few people use them as a starting point with reasonable success, though.

crucial is not a company I would feel comfortable with using either.

Don't know about their RAM, but their MX300 SDD's are great.

tragiktimes101 1 Build 1 point 13 months ago

Blowers do have benefits. They are louder, yes. But, the vent the hot air directly out of the case without adding it to the ambient case temps. This makes them a solid choice for more restrictive or smaller cases.

Hemes 1 Build 0 points 14 months ago

Do u really need 3 TB of hd Get an i7 instead

Lobsterareawesome 8 Builds 1 point 14 months ago

Well by loosing the 3TB HDD you still aren't compensating for an i7. the i5 is good enough imo.

HarambeOurSavior 1 point 14 months ago

facts aabout the i5

BettyBoo42 1 point 14 months ago

They have the same amount of cores and since this is a gaming build, that is really all that matters (along with clock speeds and such) but threads don't. So the i7 would be no better at games, maybe by a fraction of perhaps 2-3 fps with everything else being the same.

Trizzie_Brah 0 points 14 months ago

this could now be greatly improved, but at a higher price

skoop321 1 Build 6 points 14 months ago

Just like everything in life my man.

Caedonanewman 0 points 14 months ago

why 2600+?

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MrElussive 0 points 13 months ago

I don't like this build. Core i5 with a GTX 980 TI. The hard drive is from 2011, a WD Black from 2017+ would blow it away for not much more money. PSU is okay but the budget allows for fully modular SeaSonic. I would drop down to a GTX 1080 w/8GB memory and use that $500 saved to upgrade to Core i7, WD Black 3TB, and fully modular EVGA or SeaSonic PSU.

JheyoDELperu 0 points 13 months ago

Manirelli y ThoughtA los único que tienen PREFERENCIA para poder mostrar, sin bloqueo alguno, sus BuildGuides, uggg... no soporta el sistema que tiene PCPartPicker ... A pesar que leí el artículo respecto a eso que sucedió años atrás. Dejar solo a ciertos conocidos"... publicar sus Guides.. me parece BS. trash

ThoughtA staff submitter 2 points 13 months ago

Please keep feedback polite and constructive.

JheyoDELperu 0 points 13 months ago

es una crítica al este sistema, es mi reclamo respecto a cómo funciona esta sección de esta página web. #NotSorry

Honor 4 Builds -1 points 14 months ago

I'd get a Corsair or EVGA PSU instead and get a western digital HDD over a Hitachi one.

... And I'd get a Corsair CPU cooler instead too ... and maybe a different brand of RAM.

Other than that, solid build.

And if you really want to be picky, go ASUS or EVGA with the 1080 Ti.

And i7 8700k.

Also, grammar error in the 'Case' section of the guide.

Lobsterareawesome 8 Builds 1 point 14 months ago

You know that Seasonic makes probably THE best PSUs out there? and a lot of corsair or EVGA PSUs are just rebranded Seasonic PSUs ;) And the Duke MSI card is a very good card dude ;) thats not being picky.. just being brand preferance ;)

Honor 4 Builds 1 point 14 months ago

Yeah, I'll admit I'm a fanboy for those three brands, especially Corsair. You get what you pay for sometimes.

skoop321 1 Build 2 points 14 months ago

Corsair is great but my EVGA Supernova that I ended up putting more cash than i wanted to now has buzzing coils, which drives me absolutely insane. Everything else is super quiet, an then there is a constant bzzzzzzzzzz in the back.

vagabond139 5 Builds 1 point 14 months ago

Brand means nothing when it come to parts. That is not how you should choose parts if you want a good build.

Honor 4 Builds -5 points 13 months ago

Oh sweetie, you're new to this aren't you?

vagabond139 5 Builds 4 points 13 months ago

Nope, I actually the most comments on the site. Also lovely condescending comment. You are picking parts by metrics that have zero meaning about how good the part is i e.g brand. Brands have low end parts and high end parts outside of stuff like Logysis and Diablotek who solely focus on super low end crappy PSU's. It is all about the exact model/series.

Honor 4 Builds 0 points 12 months ago

Oh sweetie.

seam -1 points 13 months ago

if your gonna spend 2400 dollars pick out good parts kid, i5, you can get a i7 double the performance and for less money, also dont get a 500 gb ssd get a 1 tb and 1tb or 2 tb hard drive ? why is this recommended anyone can make a build better than this

ThoughtA staff submitter 1 point 13 months ago

Where are you seeing an i7 for less money than an i5? It certainly doesn't give you double the performance in almost anything by the way.

I must remind you to also please keep it polite.

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ThoughtA staff submitter 1 point 13 months ago

My comment wasn't directed at you in any way whatsoever. It was in reply to another user.

This comment is directed at you though: keep it polite or don't comment on this site.

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Goroyo9090 -2 points 15 months ago

hi

naddario -2 points 14 months ago

the i5 may bottleneck the ti just saying

Lobsterareawesome 8 Builds 1 point 14 months ago

no it wont

BettyBoo42 1 point 14 months ago

It shouldn't bottleneck it whatsoever. The only downside is the threads which don't impact games at all, only multitasking and editing/rendering which the 6c 6th core and 1080ti already have taken care of.

Streetguru -6 points 15 months ago

i7 8700 or R7 1700 > 8600K always IMO

Just seems to better to me to have more threads rather than some extra single thread performance when the i7 8700 at least already boosts to 4.3ghz

Also seems weak on performance per dollar

tragiktimes101 1 Build 1 point 15 months ago

Let's see.

R7 17000 = thread focused (non-high refresh gaming).
i5 8600K = non-thread focused (high refresh gaming).

How the hell are you comparing these completely different oriented chips?

Streetguru -1 points 14 months ago

The main focus is the i7 8700>8600K because at that point do you really need another 10-15fps with the 5ghz 8600K? You can also get away with less cooling for the 8700(non K), and it doesn't really need to be delidded since you aren't OCing it

Otherwise if the best 144hz is the goal that budget can easily fit an 8700K.

tragiktimes101 1 Build 1 point 14 months ago

But if you don't need the extra threads why would you go with the 8700? I'm not saying it's a bad chip. Just not going to be as good as the K variant for higher refresh rates.

Streetguru 1 point 14 months ago

For the long haul, very likely that the extra threads are more important than a bit more single threaded performance for anyone.

tragiktimes101 1 Build 1 point 13 months ago

Based off what? Hyperthreading has been around for quite some time, yet there are still very few games that can take advantage of a lot of threads. It's wasted money for gaming.

niquer123 -10 points 14 months ago

You don't need to spend 141$ on this cooler. Anything between 15-40$ with a fan will work perfectly fine. You also forgot to add in the thermal paste. Case is pricey for no reason and why spend so much money on storage ? you could reduce that by a 100$ by having a 250gb ssd that's actually many times faster ( evo series) and have another storage unit that'd be an hdd for 1 tb.

With all of this you could save enough money to get 32gb of ram which will improve your performance. The graphic card you chose isn't even 10% better than the 1070 ti and costs about 25% more. Just get a 1070ti and with the money you save you can get a better CPU

BL64 9 points 14 months ago

Anything between 15-40$ with a fan will work perfectly fine.

No, no, no. Coffee lake runs quite hot comparative to other cpu architectures. Something in the price range you indicated will be barely sufficient for cooling the 8600k (expect temps in the 80s to 90s in a synthetic load). And this is non-overclocked. To cool it reasonably well with a good OC, you'll need something like a double 140mm fan noctua nh-d15 ideally, or a 240mm or higher AIO.

get 32gb of ram which will improve your performance.

Most games today don't even use more than 8gb of ram, that is why most people settle for 16gb as a comfortable amount. 32gb is just overkill for 99% of people and will NOT improve your performance by any appreciable amount.

The graphic card you chose isn't even 10% better than the 1070 ti and costs about 25% more.

This is complete ******** as well.

Lobsterareawesome 8 Builds 3 points 14 months ago

Agree! while some games now actually do use more than 8GB on max settings 8GB is still enough.. but 32 is overkill.. for gaming its pointless

tragiktimes101 1 Build 1 point 13 months ago

Many games that exceed 8GB of RAM usage do so because they have too little VRAM and the standard memory picks up the slack. Not all cases, but many.

Lobsterareawesome 8 Builds 1 point 13 months ago

yes.. so its actually good to have 16GB.. but agreed.. to get 16GB rn is a nightmare

tragiktimes101 1 Build 1 point 13 months ago

Getting anything with memory that isn't a mobile device is a nightmare right now.

Steve1466 1 point 14 months ago

Agreed BL

thedukeanator13 2 Builds 2 points 14 months ago

The cooler they chose, like most, includes thermal paste. Additionally, the cooler they chose will allow for heavy overclocking (which is incredible on the 8600k-- @5.0GHz after running prime95 for 20+mins https://imgur.com/a/5KEd0 ) the heavy overclocking capabilities on the 8th gen of Intel cpus is beyond astounding with a good cooler (and motherboard). Or, a good cooler like the one they used will keep the build quiet, the temps cool, and will still allow for overclocking down the road so they don't need to do as many future upgrades to keep the pc up to par in years to come.

They included that much storage most likely so people can store large files. And with a 1080ti you can watch movies and what not at ridiculous resolutions. And the higher the resolution of something the more storage space it takes up. Plus with a gpu like that you would most likely playing a good amount of AAA titles and overtime that amount of games will add up. As for the ssd. the parametric filtering is automatically picking the crucial over the samsung because it is cheaper (The parametric filter they have setup is setting it to automatically the cheapest 500GB or more SSD).

Down to your comment regarding the 1080ti being not even 10% better than the 1070ti: - http://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-GTX-1080-Ti-vs-Nvidia-GTX-1070/3918vs3609 - https://www.144hzmonitors.com/other/gtx-1070-ti-vs-gtx-1080-ti/ - https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2017/11/nvidia-gtx-1070-ti-review/ You can look for more articles if you like, but the 1080ti does do a reasonable amount better than the 1070ti. And, as Drekloe pointed out

"it's called "magnificent" fora reason."

Drekloe 1 Build 1 point 14 months ago

it's called "magnificent" fora reason

Steve1466 1 point 14 months ago

Well maybe you haven't heard that the 1080ti is the best GPU in the world because you live under a rock and haven't heard about anything that's going on around you

supermattdab0ss 1 Build 1 point 13 months ago

Don't go trash commenting like this, do some research first. Thermal paste is included with cooler. 32 Gb is overkill. 1080 Ti is a major performance improvement. A 500 gb SSD is also better, but I agree a smaller HDD would be better. Most importantly the cooler is actually fine, Coffee lake runs fairly hot.

I do agree on the case, however.

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RoundDuckMan 1 point 12 months ago

This is a new i5, not a 7th gen one. What kind of difference does that bring?

Well it's got 6 non-HT cores, and a lot of modern titles are happy enough with it to work great with the 1080 Ti. This isn't the 4 core one where it was pushed to the limit with the 1070/1080.

That said, at the price the 1080 Ti is at now, I'd upgrade the GPU to a Titan Xp, not that much more and it's something that can beat the 1080 Ti.

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Lobsterareawesome 8 Builds 1 point 13 months ago

then dont look at this one ;) the website is circling around this very build

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Lobsterareawesome 8 Builds 1 point 13 months ago

yeah.. sadly it is.. Im so happy i bought my strix 1080 ti in november for 790 bucks. still a lot of money but cheap compared to todays prices

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NewMoonGamingHD 1 point 15 months ago

i7 comes with hypertreading. Meanwhile for the i5, doesn´t come with hyperthreading. This is useful for games that are CPU-intensive game.

tragiktimes101 1 Build 2 points 15 months ago

The hyperthreading doesn't currently play a huge role in gaming because most games can't take advantage of more than 6 threads well anyway. At least as of yet.

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ThoughtA staff submitter 5 points 15 months ago

The GeForce GTX 1080 Ti is very popular. There's a lot more than one GTX 1080 Ti, and the parametric filter sorts through most of them.

llamafacelukas 1 Build 6 points 15 months ago

A lot of cringe-worthy comments going on in here. Sorry you gotta deal with it.

Namnguyen 2 Builds 1 point 14 months ago

I think he meant the model of the gtx 1080 ti.

ThoughtA staff submitter 2 points 14 months ago

I know he did. He was misinterpreting a statement in the guide. That's why I was clarifying it.

Reason:
Note: Wattages are estimates only. Actual power draw may differ from listed values.
Component Estimated Wattage
Intel - Core i5-8600K 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor 11W - 95W
Fractal Design - Celsius S24 87.6 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler 10W - 15W
ADATA - XPG GAMMIX D10 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-2666 Memory 11W - 11W
Intenso - 512 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive 2W - 10W
Toshiba - P300 3 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive 4W - 20W
Total: 38W - 151W