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Choosing between two part lists, Intel and AMD . . .

Boneless_Banana

6 months ago

EDIT: It seemed like people thought that the Ryzen system was the better option, I think that is what I will be going with. Thanks for your feedback!

New list: PCPartPicker Part List

Type Item Price
CPU AMD - Ryzen 3 3200G 3.6 GHz Quad-Core Processor $99.00 @ B&H
Motherboard Asus - TUF B450M-PLUS GAMING Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard $69.99 @ Newegg
Memory G.Skill - Aegis 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory $52.99 @ Newegg
Storage SanDisk - X400 256 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive Purchased For $0.00
Storage ADATA - Ultimate SU650 960 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive $92.99 @ Newegg
Video Card MSI - Radeon RX 580 8 GB ARMOR OC Video Card $50.00
Case Cooler Master - MasterBox Q300L MicroATX Mini Tower Case $0.00
Power Supply Corsair - CXM V2 (2017) 750 W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply $54.99 @ Newegg
Operating System Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit $28.00
Case Fan Rosewill - RWCB-1612 63.1 CFM 120 mm Fan $12.89 @ OutletPC
Case Fan Rosewill - RWCR-1612 63.1 CFM 120 mm Fan $12.89 @ OutletPC
Headphones Kingston - HyperX Cloud Stinger Headset $39.99 @ Amazon
Custom Coboc TX4SPL3-6 6" Sleeved 6 inch 1 to Three(3) x 4-pin TX4 PWM Multi-Fan Power Splitter Cable(Net Jacket) Female to Male $2.59
Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
Total (before mail-in rebates) $536.32
Mail-in rebates -$20.00
Total $516.32
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-07-16 13:26 EDT-0400

This actually isn't my first build, contrary to most posts in this forum lol. Anyway, I'm getting a 1080p60 build and I'm not sure whether to go down the i3-9100F path of the Ryzen 3 3200g. The two part lists are included. Things marked $0 are things that I already have, and things that are marked down are prices that I wasa able to find them for but haven't gotten them yet. Any feedback is appreciated, thanks!

Also note that I am not getting a resold Win10 key. It's legal.

PCPartPicker Part List

Type Item Price
CPU Intel - Core i3-9100F 3.6 GHz Quad-Core Processor $94.89 @ OutletPC
CPU Cooler be quiet! - Pure Rock Slim 35.14 CFM CPU Cooler $28.48 @ OutletPC
Motherboard ASRock - B365M Pro4 Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard $83.88 @ OutletPC
Memory G.Skill - Aegis 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-2400 Memory $55.99 @ Newegg
Storage SanDisk - X400 256 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive Purchased For $0.00
Storage ADATA - Ultimate SU650 960 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive $92.99 @ Newegg
Video Card MSI - Radeon RX 580 8 GB ARMOR OC Video Card $50.00
Case Cooler Master - MasterBox Q300L MicroATX Mini Tower Case Purchased For $0.00
Power Supply EVGA - BQ 750 W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply $84.89 @ OutletPC
Operating System Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit $28.00
Case Fan Rosewill - RWCB-1612 63.1 CFM 120 mm Fan $12.89 @ OutletPC
Case Fan Rosewill - RWCR-1612 63.1 CFM 120 mm Fan $12.89 @ OutletPC
Headphones Kingston - HyperX Cloud Stinger Headset $49.50 @ Amazon
Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
Total (before mail-in rebates) $614.40
Mail-in rebates -$20.00
Total $594.40
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-07-16 09:59 EDT-0400

PCPartPicker Part List

Type Item Price
CPU AMD - Ryzen 3 3200G 3.6 GHz Quad-Core Processor $99.00 @ B&H
Motherboard ASRock - A320M Pro4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard $74.51 @ Amazon
Memory Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-2933 Memory $69.99 @ Amazon
Storage SanDisk - X400 256 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive Purchased For $0.00
Storage ADATA - Ultimate SU650 960 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive $92.99 @ Newegg
Video Card MSI - Radeon RX 580 8 GB ARMOR OC Video Card $50.00
Case Cooler Master - MasterBox Q300L MicroATX Mini Tower Case $0.00
Power Supply EVGA - BQ 750 W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply $84.89 @ OutletPC
Operating System Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit $28.00
Case Fan Rosewill - RWCB-1612 63.1 CFM 120 mm Fan $12.89 @ OutletPC
Case Fan Rosewill - RWCR-1612 63.1 CFM 120 mm Fan $12.89 @ OutletPC
Headphones Kingston - HyperX Cloud Stinger Headset $49.50 @ Amazon
Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
Total (before mail-in rebates) $594.66
Mail-in rebates -$20.00
Total $574.66
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-07-16 09:59 EDT-0400

Comments

  • 6 months ago
  • 1 point

The reason I'm having trouble deciding is because it's a $20 total difference, which to me is almost negligible.

  • 6 months ago
  • 1 point

Alright so go Ryzen. Better option by a lot. However there are a few changes I would make.

First is a different motherboard. B450 at least. Second is a cheaper PSU. The one listed is way overkill. And unless you intent on running 2080tis it's kinda pointless. Better to save the money. You can save money with the fabs. I would. But it's really up to you.

PCPartPicker Part List

Type Item Price
CPU AMD - Ryzen 3 3200G 3.6 GHz Quad-Core Processor $99.00 @ B&H
Motherboard Gigabyte - B450M DS3H Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard $72.99 @ Amazon
Memory Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-2933 Memory $69.99 @ Amazon
Storage SanDisk - X400 256 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive Purchased For $0.00
Storage ADATA - Ultimate SU650 960 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive $92.99 @ Newegg
Video Card MSI - Radeon RX 580 8 GB ARMOR OC Video Card $50.00
Case Cooler Master - MasterBox Q300L MicroATX Mini Tower Case $0.00
Power Supply EVGA - BQ 650 W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply $59.99 @ B&H
Operating System Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit $28.00
Case Fan Corsair - Air Series White 2 pack 52.19 CFM 120 mm Fan $19.89 @ OutletPC
Headphones Kingston - HyperX Cloud Stinger Headset $49.50 @ Amazon
Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
Total $542.35
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-07-16 10:44 EDT-0400
  • 6 months ago
  • 1 point

I got the red and blue fans for a reason.

I did find a cheaper PSU that happened to be 750W as well, I think that might just be a sale so I might change it.

And I did get a better mobo.

Thanks!

  • 6 months ago
  • 0 points

I did find a cheaper PSU that happened to be 750W as well, I think that might just be a sale so I might change it.

It's not just about wattage. Modularity and efficiency rating are huge. Also 750w is way overkill. I run a 650w and I have a 6600k @4.5ghz and a Vega 56. Your efficiency would actually go down. And the power supply would be drawing more than needed and thus more power will go heat and thus wasted. I would even go with a 450w or 550w if you can find a decent one for cheap.

  • 6 months ago
  • 1 point

The one I found had the same modularity and efficiency rating. And a PSU will only draw as much power as it needs . . . https://www.speedguide.net/faq/do-larger-power-supplies-use-more-electricity-354 Since efficiency peaks at about 50% usage, I would be getting better efficiency.

  • 6 months ago
  • 0 points

I think you missed the point. It's efficiency rating is based around it's max wattage. So the sweet spot would be to consume 600-700w. Ut's efficiency when consuming 300w is going to be much lower. The thing I think you are missing here is what the efficiency even is. If a PSU is 80% efficient that means 80% of what it draws will actually be used. That other 20% will be wasted and become heat. And there is a difference between consuming, and drawing. The PSU draws power. The components consume it. So if your components consume 300w, and your PSU is 80% efficient for 300w. Then your PSU will be drawing around 375w. But the efficiency is centered around the wattage. So if you are only drawing 300w on a 750w PSU, more of what the PSU draws will become heat(percentage wise) then if you were drawing 600-700w. So it may be 80% efficient when consuming 700w. But it will more than likely be lower when only drawing 300w.

I am not an expert on this so I could be wrong. But in order for you to convince me otherwise I would need some proof.

  • 6 months ago
  • 1 point

Power supplies don't always take their wattage out of the wall, that's how they don't just overload components. Their wattage is what they are rated to take without overheating, not what they consistently take. That's why some better power supplies will be able to supply a higher wattage than they are rated to. Efficiency is energy output divided by energy input as a percentage. So, if a power supply (regardless of what it's rated to supply) supplies 240 W to components but takes 300 W from the wall, it's efficiency rating would be 80%. The point is that power supplies vary what they take from an outlet, and can take up to the wattage rating without voiding the warranty and risking overheating.

  • 6 months ago
  • -1 points

I'll point out that windows key violates site policy. Key resellers aren't a good way to get a windows 10 key.

This is about $50 more, but is vastly improved. It has a much better CPU, a better motherboard, faster RAM, a better PSU, and a legal windows key.

PCPartPicker Part List

Type Item Price
CPU AMD - Ryzen 5 2600 3.4 GHz 6-Core Processor $119.99 @ Amazon
Motherboard MSI - B450M BAZOOKA V2 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard $81.99 @ Amazon
Memory Team - Dark 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory $64.89 @ OutletPC
Storage SanDisk - X400 256 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive Purchased For $0.00
Storage ADATA - Ultimate SU650 960 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive $92.99 @ Newegg
Video Card MSI - Radeon RX 580 8 GB ARMOR OC Video Card $50.00
Case Cooler Master - MasterBox Q300L MicroATX Mini Tower Case $0.00
Power Supply SeaSonic - FOCUS Plus Gold 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply $51.98 @ Newegg
Operating System Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit $99.39 @ OutletPC
Case Fan ARCTIC - F12 PWM 53 CFM 120 mm Fan $7.89 @ SuperBiiz
Case Fan ARCTIC - F12 PWM 53 CFM 120 mm Fan $7.89 @ SuperBiiz
Headphones Kingston - HyperX Cloud Stinger Headset $49.50 @ Amazon
Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
Total (before mail-in rebates) $661.51
Mail-in rebates -$35.00
Total $626.51
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-07-16 11:06 EDT-0400
  • 6 months ago
  • 1 point

It's not a resold key.

I did get cheaper RAM, Aegis.

I got a cheaper PSU with the same wattage. I am hoping to upgrade this a lot and I figure a PSU is something I can just get good now. Yes, I realize it is overkill.

I also did get a better mobo, Asus TUF, I didn't realize that the one I had wasn't B450.

This puts me in a much better position, financially. I can see why one might get a 2600, but I'd rather save more money.

Another reason I didn't get a 2600 was that GPUCheck showed that the RX 580 and the 3200g were pretty evenly matched, getting a better CPU wouldn't necessarily get that much better performance. (I realize that the CPU in the check is the i3-9100F, but they haven't listed Zen 2 yet.)

The last reason why I didn't want to go for the 2600 was because at first it will be without discreet graphics, that will come a little later. I want to be able to play games a little bit before I get the card.

Also, I wanted the red and blue fans . . .

Thanks!

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