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Building a Gaming PC and Looking For Advice

Grendies
  • 13 months ago

After six and a half years my brother's HDD gave up the ghost and he's decided it's time to upgrade from an Asus ROG G75VW to something less potato-like. I haven't tinkered with building a desktop since the late 90's, so I would really appreciate some advice and opinions regarding this build. I've included my line of thinking here to help give a better idea of why I selected what I did.

His primary use for this build would be gaming and watching Youtube/Twitch. He would also like to be able to record his gaming sessions if possible, though not being able to isn't a deal breaker. He would prefer not to have to replace components after only a couple years due to being obsolete. He does not plan on overclocking anything, SLI/CrossFire, lighting up the case with LEDs, or resorting to water cooling if at all possible. We're not really concerned with how it looks at the end, preferring function over form. The budget is flexible, but I'd like to avoid going any higher unless I have to.

Power usage calculation can be found here.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type Item Price
CPU Intel - Core i7-8700K 3.7 GHz 6-Core Processor $365.99 @ Walmart
CPU Cooler Noctua - NH-U9S 46.44 CFM CPU Cooler $59.95 @ Amazon
Thermal Compound Thermal Grizzly - Kryonaut 1g 1 g Thermal Paste $9.99 @ Amazon
Motherboard MSI - MPG Z390 GAMING PLUS ATX LGA1151 Motherboard $139.92 @ Amazon
Memory G.Skill - NT Series 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-2133 Memory $75.98 @ Newegg
Storage Western Digital - Black NVMe 1 TB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive $244.17 @ Newegg
Video Card MSI - GeForce RTX 2070 8 GB Video Card $593.98 @ Newegg
Case Corsair - 750D Airflow Edition ATX Full Tower Case $140.00 @ Amazon
Power Supply Corsair - RMx (2018) 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply $89.99 @ Amazon
Optical Drive LG - WH14NS40 Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer $53.00 @ Amazon
Operating System Microsoft - Windows 10 Pro Full 32/64-bit $189.00 @ B&H
Case Fan Noctua - NF-A14 PWM chromax.black.swap 82.52 CFM 140mm Fan $24.90 @ Amazon
Case Fan Noctua - NF-A14 PWM chromax.black.swap 82.52 CFM 140mm Fan $24.90 @ Amazon
Monitor Asus - VG248QE 24.0" 1920x1080 144 Hz Monitor $256.93 @ Amazon
UPS CyberPower - CP1500PFCLCD UPS $179.95 @ Amazon
Other Western Digital - Blue 1TB PC Hard Drive - 7200 RPM Class, SATA 6 Gb/s, 64 MB Cache, 3.5" - WD10EZEX $48.71
Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
Total $2497.36
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-04-18 11:52 EDT-0400

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  • 13 months ago
  • 2 points

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type Item Price
CPU AMD - Ryzen 7 2700X 3.7 GHz 8-Core Processor $294.89 @ OutletPC
Thermal Compound Thermal Grizzly - Kryonaut 1g 1 g Thermal Paste $9.99 @ Amazon
Motherboard MSI - B450 TOMAHAWK ATX AM4 Motherboard $114.99 @ B&H
Memory Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory $99.99 @ Newegg
Storage Crucial - MX500 1 TB 2.5" Solid State Drive $115.99 @ Amazon
Video Card MSI - GeForce RTX 2080 8 GB VENTUS Video Card $699.99 @ B&H
Case Corsair - 750D Airflow Edition ATX Full Tower Case $140.00 @ Amazon
Power Supply Corsair - RMx (2018) 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply $89.99 @ Amazon
Optical Drive LG - WH14NS40 Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer $53.00 @ Amazon
Operating System Microsoft - Windows 10 Pro Full 32/64-bit $189.00 @ B&H
Case Fan Noctua - NF-A14 PWM chromax.black.swap 82.52 CFM 140mm Fan $24.90 @ Amazon
Case Fan Noctua - NF-A14 PWM chromax.black.swap 82.52 CFM 140mm Fan $24.90 @ Amazon
Monitor Asus - VG248QE 24.0" 1920x1080 144 Hz Monitor $256.93 @ Amazon
UPS CyberPower - CP1500PFCLCD UPS $179.95 @ Amazon
Other Western Digital - Blue 1TB PC Hard Drive - 7200 RPM Class, SATA 6 Gb/s, 64 MB Cache, 3.5" - WD10EZEX $48.71
Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
Total $2343.22
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-04-18 12:59 EDT-0400

I would change from Intel to AMD here personally. Cheaper for more cores and for recording the 2700X is a better deal. It also would give him the ability to stream if your brother ever decided he wanted to dabble in that. The 2700X comes with a great stock cooler too so need need for an aftermarket upgrade. You really want faster RAM whether you go Intel or AMD. It's a super simple "overclock". All you have to do is go into the BIOS on boot and enable XMP profile to overclock the RAM to 3000MHz. You will get a boost in framerate for doing so. I also swapped out your NVMe SSD for a standard SSD. NVMe SSDs are great but they won't improve load times by much at all and it's quite the premium for such a small boost in performance. If your brother got into any sort of production he could use one later, but right now they are just too expensive to justify a 1TB one in my opinion. All of these changes gave you some extra wiggle room for a better graphics card that should allow your brother to max out the framerate in most games. Everything else looks great. Let me know what you think or if you have questions

  • 13 months ago
  • 1 point

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type Item Price
CPU AMD - Ryzen 7 2700X 3.7 GHz 8-Core Processor $294.89 @ OutletPC
Thermal Compound Thermal Grizzly - Kryonaut 1g 1 g Thermal Paste $9.99 @ Amazon
Motherboard Asus - Prime X470-Pro ATX AM4 Motherboard $149.89 @ OutletPC
Memory G.Skill - NT Series 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-2133 Memory $75.98 @ Newegg
Storage Mushkin - Reactor 1 TB 2.5" Solid State Drive $139.99 @ Amazon
Video Card Gigabyte - GeForce RTX 2080 8 GB WINDFORCE Video Card $699.99 @ Amazon
Case Corsair - 750D Airflow Edition ATX Full Tower Case $140.00 @ Amazon
Power Supply Corsair - RMx (2018) 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply $109.99 @ Amazon
Optical Drive LG - WH14NS40 Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer $53.00 @ Amazon
Operating System Microsoft - Windows 10 Pro Full 32/64-bit $189.00 @ B&H
Case Fan Noctua - NF-A14 PWM chromax.black.swap 82.52 CFM 140mm Fan $24.90 @ Amazon
Case Fan Noctua - NF-A14 PWM chromax.black.swap 82.52 CFM 140mm Fan $24.90 @ Amazon
Monitor Asus - VG248QE 24.0" 1920x1080 144 Hz Monitor $255.95 @ Amazon
UPS CyberPower - CP1500PFCLCD UPS $179.95 @ Amazon
Other Western Digital - Blue 1TB PC Hard Drive - 7200 RPM Class, SATA 6 Gb/s, 64 MB Cache, 3.5" - WD10EZEX $48.71
Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
Total (before mail-in rebates) $2417.13
Mail-in rebates -$20.00
Total $2397.13
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-04-18 19:20 EDT-0400

I'm really glad to see so many responses, they've given my brother and I a lot to discuss and has prompted me to look more into brands I had written off years ago.

  • Since he usually likes to have at least two or three programs running at the same time while gaming, an AMD does make more sense, and if the stock cooler is decent quality that's another $60 saved.
  • Finding a motherboard that wasn't plagued with mountains of people complaining about it has taken all day, but I think the Asus Prime X470 Pro looks to be the best fit. Based on what reviews I could find it's not great for overclocking, but that shouldn't be a problem.
  • After talking about it for a while, my brother decided that he'd rather just stick with the 2133 RAM and upgrade later if it becomes necessary. We know that overclocking is fairly easy, especially via XMP, but between how warm it gets indoors and wanting to extend the lifetime of the processor he doesn't want to do it. I suppose if it becomes an issue in the future he'll change his mind.
  • The extra money spent on an M.2 would only make sense if using NVMe, so a regular 2.5" makes more sense. Firelimbs's comment got me looking into different types of SSD and I've settled on the Mushkin Reactor which uses MLC rather than TLC.
  • With the savings, he'll be able to get a 2080 instead of a 2070.
  • The changes require a stronger PSU, but that's not a problem.
  • 13 months ago
  • 1 point

This looks like a great build! He'll love it for sure

  • 13 months ago
  • 2 points

Here's a build that would be a bit better for slightly less:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type Item Price
CPU Intel - Core i7-9700K 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor $389.99 @ Walmart
CPU Cooler Deepcool - CAPTAIN 240EX RGB 153.04 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler $77.59 @ Newegg
Thermal Compound Thermal Grizzly - Kryonaut 1g 1 g Thermal Paste $9.99 @ Amazon
Motherboard MSI - MPG Z390 GAMING PLUS ATX LGA1151 Motherboard $139.92 @ Amazon
Memory OLOy - 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory $76.99 @ Newegg
Storage HP - EX920 1 TB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive $149.95 @ Amazon
Storage Seagate - Barracuda 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive $58.50 @ Amazon
Video Card Gigabyte - GeForce RTX 2080 8 GB WINDFORCE Video Card $699.99 @ Amazon
Case Corsair - 750D Airflow Edition ATX Full Tower Case $140.00 @ Amazon
Power Supply Cooler Master - MWE Gold 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply $54.99 @ B&H
Optical Drive LG - WH14NS40 Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer $53.00 @ Amazon
Operating System Microsoft - Windows 10 Pro OEM 64-bit $129.99 @ Newegg Business
Monitor Dell - S2719DGF 27.0" 2560x1440 155 Hz Monitor $319.99 @ Amazon
UPS CyberPower - CP1500PFCLCD UPS $179.95 @ Amazon
Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
Total (before mail-in rebates) $2500.84
Mail-in rebates -$20.00
Total $2480.84
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-04-18 13:14 EDT-0400
  • the i7-9700K isn't much more then the 8700k, and it has 2 more cores instead of hyperthreading.
  • I chose a 240mm water cooler instead of the 2 extra case fans, it should cool the CPU better.
  • DDR4-2133 is slow and not a good idea to purchase. Generally, you'll want at least 2666Mhz for Intel and 2933Mhz for AMD. I chose 3000Mhz because it was only a dollar more then 2133Mhz.
  • Much cheaper NVMe SSD
  • 2TB HDD. I've heard that Barracuda HDD's are generally good.
  • A good 2080 wasn't much more then a 2070, so I chose it instead.
  • The PSU has identical specs to the one you picked but is cheaper.
  • OEM Windows 10 Pro is a lot cheaper then the full edition.
  • Chose a better monitor, it has a higher resolution and 11 more FPS. 1440p @144-165Hz should be good to get all the performance out of the 2080.
  • 13 months ago
  • 2 points

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type Item Price
CPU Intel - Core i7-9700K 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor $389.99 @ Walmart
CPU Cooler be quiet! - Dark Rock Pro 4 50.5 CFM CPU Cooler $84.99 @ SuperBiiz
Thermal Compound Thermal Grizzly - Kryonaut 1g 1 g Thermal Paste $9.99 @ Amazon
Motherboard Gigabyte - Z390 GAMING X ATX LGA1151 Motherboard $139.99 @ Amazon
Memory G.Skill - NT Series 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-2133 Memory $75.98 @ Newegg
Storage Intel - 760p Series 1 TB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive $189.99 @ Newegg
Video Card Gigabyte - GeForce RTX 2080 8 GB WINDFORCE Video Card $699.99 @ Amazon
Case Corsair - 750D Airflow Edition ATX Full Tower Case $140.00 @ Amazon
Power Supply Corsair - RMx (2018) 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply $89.99 @ Amazon
Optical Drive LG - WH14NS40 Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer $53.00 @ Amazon
Operating System Microsoft - Windows 10 Pro Full 32/64-bit $189.00 @ B&H
Case Fan Noctua - NF-A14 PWM chromax.black.swap 82.52 CFM 140mm Fan $24.90 @ Amazon
Case Fan Noctua - NF-A14 PWM chromax.black.swap 82.52 CFM 140mm Fan $24.90 @ Amazon
Monitor Dell - S2719DGF 27.0" 2560x1440 155 Hz Monitor $319.99 @ Amazon
UPS CyberPower - CP1500PFCLCD UPS $179.95 @ Amazon
Other Western Digital - Blue 1TB PC Hard Drive - 7200 RPM Class, SATA 6 Gb/s, 64 MB Cache, 3.5" - WD10EZEX $48.71
Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
Total $2661.36
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-04-18 13:39 EDT-0400
  • 13 months ago
  • 2 points
  • 9700k mostly for the somewhat better temps
  • dark rock 4 is a very good air cooler
  • the msi plus has no heat sink for some of the power distribution
  • wd back is just expensive tlc
  • you can get a 2080
  • monitor because you can

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