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Will the i3 bottleneck the gtx 1070?

AJC559

41 months ago

I'm trying to do a "budget" build keeping it under a grandish and I was gonna try and pair the 6100 with the 1070 til I can upgrade to the 6600 k but I still want ultra settings 1080p 60fps.

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  • 41 months ago
  • 2 points

for 1080p you don't need a GTX 1070. a rx 480 or GTX 1060 are perfect for 1080p. Take one of those and then you can take a i5 6600k cpu.

  • 40 months ago
  • 2 points

For ultra settings on any game?

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  • 40 months ago
  • 1 point

So something like this?

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type Item Price
CPU Intel Core i5-6600K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor $229.99 @ B&H
CPU Cooler Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler $29.49 @ SuperBiiz
Motherboard Gigabyte GA-Z170N-Gaming 5 Mini ITX LGA1151 Motherboard $158.99 @ SuperBiiz
Memory G.Skill TridentZ Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory $70.99 @ Newegg
Storage PNY CS2111 480GB 2.5" Solid State Drive $119.99 @ Best Buy
Video Card Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1060 6GB G1 Gaming Video Card $250.00
Case Phanteks Enthoo EVOLV ITX Mini ITX Tower Case $82.98 @ Newegg
Power Supply EVGA 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply $39.99 @ NCIX US
Operating System Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit $25.00
Keyboard Logitech MK120 Wired Slim Keyboard w/Optical Mouse $14.49 @ SuperBiiz
Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
Total $1021.91
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-07-23 19:13 EDT-0400
  • 40 months ago
  • 1 point

yes

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  • 40 months ago
  • 1 point

Yea it's a little out of budget

  • 41 months ago
  • 2 points

I think a i3 6100 / GTX 1070 would be out of balance.

if you want a 1070, then a 6400 might be the better choice at this price point.

a 1060 + a 6600K $520 plus a CPU cooler, and is also out of balance in that the CPU is more than what the Graphics card needs.

a 1070 + a 6400 is $585. I think the 6400 is a little weak for a 1070. Spend $15 more for a 6500 and it will be just fine.

or go with a 1060 / 6400 which is $485.

Both are more than enough for today's 1080p gaming.

  • 40 months ago
  • 1 point

That's probably true but I'll if it'll last me 5 + years

  • 40 months ago
  • 1 point

That all depends on the game and graphical settings.

  • 40 months ago
  • 1 point

Well I wanna handle any game thrown at it on ultra settings.

  • 40 months ago
  • 1 point

Graphical settings are dependent on the GPU, not the CPU. The highest FPS you can get is determined by the CPU in most recent AAA games. That isn't enough info.

  • 40 months ago
  • 2 points

Well I'm trying to make it universal mostly shooters and RPGs (mass effect, fallout etc) would it better to dump my money in a better graphics card and upgrade the cpu later or just dummy down the gpu and meet in the middle. I do want ultra though I don't see the point in spending over a grand on a system if I'm not getting 60fps on 1080p at least on most games on ultra. And at least last for 5+ years.

  • 40 months ago
  • 0 points

If you aiming for 60FPS or greater you would want a better CPU.

  • 40 months ago
  • 1 point

That's a little hopeful for a "budget" build.

That being said, my 970 handles almost everything thrown at it on at least very high, so I'm sure a 1060 can handle just about every game on ultra. You could use the extra budget from that to get a 6600K.

  • 40 months ago
  • 1 point

So a 1060 and a 6500 would be better then a 1070 and a 6100?

  • 40 months ago
  • 1 point

For your needs, yes. A GTX 1060 is going to be able to max out all games at ~60FPS although down the road you may have to start turning down settings although overclocking the GPU will help with that.

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  • 40 months ago
  • 1 point

Well it does have hyper threading but I understand. I just wanna make sure that I have 60fps no matter the case but I feel like the i3 to i5 would be an easier upgrade down the road rather then a 1060 to a 1070.

  • 40 months ago
  • 1 point

This is what I'm thinking for a "budget" build

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type Item Price
CPU Intel Core i5-6500 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor $199.99 @ SuperBiiz
Motherboard Gigabyte GA-Z170N-Gaming 5 Mini ITX LGA1151 Motherboard $158.99 @ SuperBiiz
Memory G.Skill TridentZ Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory $70.99 @ Newegg
Storage PNY CS2111 480GB 2.5" Solid State Drive $119.99 @ Best Buy
Video Card Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1060 6GB G1 Gaming Video Card $250.00
Case Phanteks Enthoo EVOLV ITX Mini ITX Tower Case $82.98 @ Newegg
Power Supply EVGA 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply $39.99 @ NCIX US
Operating System Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit $25.00
Keyboard Logitech MK120 Wired Slim Keyboard w/Optical Mouse $14.49 @ SuperBiiz
Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
Total $962.42
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-07-23 19:11 EDT-0400
  • 40 months ago
  • 1 point

It probably would bottleneck it yes, an I3 is ok for lesser cards up to and including a GTX 960 or R9 280 but once you get beyond that into the higher end cards you will get bottleneck.

If you are getting a GTX 970 or above, basically anything that is VR ready then you should have a CPU with 4 or more cores. You might be better choosing the GTX 1060 and an I5 if that is your budget

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  • 40 months ago
  • 1 point

It should be fine. Keep the i3 and upgrade it later on. You only lose a few frames in gaming but nothing major. I tested my gtx 970 and ran Unigine Heaven benchmark with my i7, then put the 970 into my new i3 and tested it there and the difference was like 25points. So unless the game is heavily CPU intensive your not losing much performance.

  • 40 months ago
  • 1 point

So this is what you guys talked me into and it fits the budget perfectly.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type Item Price
CPU Intel Core i5-6500 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor $199.99 @ SuperBiiz
Motherboard Gigabyte GA-Z170N-Gaming 5 Mini ITX LGA1151 Motherboard $158.99 @ SuperBiiz
Memory G.Skill TridentZ Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory $70.99 @ Newegg
Storage PNY CS2111 480GB 2.5" Solid State Drive $119.99 @ Best Buy
Video Card Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1060 6GB G1 Gaming Video Card $250.00
Case Phanteks Enthoo EVOLV ITX Mini ITX Tower Case $82.98 @ Newegg
Power Supply EVGA 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply $39.99 @ NCIX US
Operating System Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit $25.00
Keyboard Logitech MK120 Wired Slim Keyboard w/Optical Mouse $14.49 @ SuperBiiz
Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
Total $962.42
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-07-24 03:47 EDT-0400
  • 40 months ago
  • 2 points

I would just get another PSU tho. Like the Corsair RM(x or i) series. Or EVGA P2/G2/GS series. B series is not that good.

  • 40 months ago
  • 1 point

You mean the B1 series. The B2 is a good unit.

  • 40 months ago
  • 1 point

You can save some money by going with a H mobo. It will not lose any feature for gaming at all. Take a look at msi h170 gaming m3 or asus h170 gaming pro

  • 40 months ago
  • 1 point

I liked the msi b150 gaming pro. Had great features and good reviews.

  • 40 months ago
  • 1 point

You said you wanted a 6600K in the future, so if you can afford a Z170 MoBo you can Overclock.

Do you need mini ITX? If you went with a larger case and a MicroATX Mobo you'll have more "room" which means more fans, and possibly more airflow.

Just an idea.

And, I like to "overspend" in the PSU department and get more than I need with higher quality. in the EVGA line that is the "G2" or "GS" lineup. the 500W B2 isn't bad, but the 600W B2 was $30 After rebate two days ago. Not a bad PSU, but not super high quality.

But, all that said, the build listed above is fine since none of the parts are power hogs, but if you plan to later upgrade to a 6600K, I'd step up the power supply and stay with a Z170 MoBo.

  • 40 months ago
  • 1 point

As someone who actually owns this setup, I notice that A) My system is definitely CPU bound and B) At 1080P, i still max out most games.

  • 40 months ago
  • 1 point

Which setup do you have?

  • 40 months ago
  • 0 points

i3-6100 with GTX 1070

  • 40 months ago
  • 1 point

Do you think it's worth getting that and upgrading it later? Or just getting a 6600k first with a rx 480 and crossfire later?

  • 40 months ago
  • 1 point

Thats hard to say and is largely user dependent. Personally, I like the GTX 1070 but as I have it, I am biased. Its especially hard to suggest xfire due to its lack of to scaling.

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