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For convenience sake, I ordered every component off of Newegg.

First off, please don't give any comment such as "Intel is way better than AMD in every application" or "You should have totally gone with nVidia, what were you thinking?" I am all for constructive criticism, but don't go fanboy on me. The Pc is built and I am not going to make a $500 upgrade just for personal preference.

This PC has been on my saved parts list for a while, and was almost a joke or a dream. But today my dreams come true. I am running Windows 8.1 if anyone wanted to know. My primary use is gaming, as well as streaming and video rendering. On FireStrike on 3DMark, it scored a 10314. From MLL, to Battlefield, to Skyrim, I have yet to see any drop in performance.

There are a few problems with Corsair Link. I am not sure how to setup/configure it in a way that I can accurately check temperatures, or even adjust fan settings. Also, there is a switch on the Define R4 that goes between 12V, 7V, and 5V. This is likely to be able to adjust fan speeds from the case itself, but I have yet to see any difference when moving the switch. I am also not sure if the CrossfireX is working properly, or if I just need to adjust some settings in the AMD Catalyst Control Center.

So far I have not done any Overclocking, mainly because I am not very Software Savy. I am more knowledgeable in Hardware. I know where and how to overclock, but if anyone has any tips or overclocking benchmarks they would like to share with me, I would be grateful.

Please leave comments, and I hope you enjoyed this build as much as I did.

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  • 64 months ago
  • 17 points

I have to give you a +1 just for the cable management: solid work there. I suppose my only question is: why run two cards in crossfire when you could have bought a single more powerful card?

  • 64 months ago
  • 9 points

I'm the one who did the cable management for him, thank you. OP can confirm.

  • 44 months ago
  • 3 points

can you come and do my cable management!

  • 64 months ago
  • 3 points

Well I actually bought the two cards as a deal from a local guy on craislist, So I suppose that is the reason behind that. If there ever was an upgrade to make in the future, GPU may be it, but it works for the time being.

  • 64 months ago
  • 8 points

As much as I hate these overkill builds, I still love them.

Question, how much was the actual price of the completed build?

Taking a quick look at some product images, Link shouldn't be all that difficult to setup. Just plug everything in, install the software, and you should be good to go.

The 12/7/5v are indeed settings for the fan controller, which is mounted in the case. To be able to adjust fan speeds from that fan controller though, you have to make sure you have the fans that you want to control plugged into that thing. Note that fan controllers can get overloaded if the Amperage is too high for it to handle, thereby frying it. So make sure you don't hook up anymore fans than your fan controller can handle.

I've never used Crossfire before, but, it seems all you need to do is connect the Crossfire bridge (1 is all you need), boot it up, and enable CrossFire in CCC.

Overclocking section

As for overclocking, in my own personal opinion, there is a lot of crap floating around on the internet about this stuff. The number one most important thing to know and keep in mind when overclocking, if you value your gear, is what are the limits of the hardware.

To that end, there are basically 2 parameters that can cause chips to fail or degrade in lifespan (chips being ICs; GPUs, CPUs, RAM, and for the more obscure stuff, Northbridges, Southbridges, and assorted chipsets). These two parameters are voltage and temperature. The higher the voltage, the quicker the silicon degrades. Same for temperature. Also, if you take voltage high enough, the chip can outright fry. As for temperature, chips nowadays have lots of failsafe mechanisms built into them, so that you shouldn't ever reach the point where the temperature is high enough that the silicon will melt down.

Raising the voltage will cause temperatures to increase exponentially. Raising clockspeed will cause temperature to increase linearly.

Now, as for the actual overclocking, play within the parameters and see what happens. Higher clockspeeds will require higher voltages, although you can usually increase clockspeeds slightly on stock volts. Overclock CPU via BIOS, GPU via software (Afterburner is the defacto standard, and is what I would probably use for your cards.)

To check for stability, stress test. For the CPU, I recommend running a couple runs of IBT to quickly check for any instabilities, and then Prime95 in "blend" mode for a couple hours if it passes IBT. How long you want to run Prime for is up to you, depending on how stable you want it to be. The rule of thumb is 18-24 hours for absolute stability, although I personally consider that overkill.

For the GPU, run Unigine Heaven/Valley, with all settings maxed, and AA/AF at 4x/16x. You'll see a lot of people telling you to run Furmark. Don't do that: It's useless as a stability stress test. If you pass 3 or 4 runs of Unigine, you should be pretty stable. Go ahead and load a game up. If it crashes, you're not stable.

Some notes about GPU overclocking: GPUs seem more sensitive to voltage increases, such that lifespan can be altered significantly even with moderately slight volt increases. Be careful when overclocking the GPU's memory. Most graphics cards do not have temperature readouts for the memory chips. As a result, even if you don't raise voltages, the memory chips can still get damaged (since increasing clockspeed raises temperature).

Sorry for the long-*** post :P

One more thing though, Intel > AMD, for the things you mentioned you do on the computer anyways. And no, this is not fanboyism, but truth. Look at benchmarks. Specifically gaming benchmarks, which is the only demanding task you mentioned.

Tassadar

  • 64 months ago
  • 2 points

Btw, I hate the formatting on this site. Can't make it look any nicer unfortunately.

  • 64 months ago
  • 1 point

Comments like your own is what I would consider not to be fanboying. A fanboy is one who prefers a certain brand, and they do not know why they do, other than the name. And although Intel may outperform AMD on gaming benchmarks, those are benchmarks, and in real games this pc works fine. But thank you for your input and nice comment.

  • 64 months ago
  • 1 point

Oh and btw, I got the GPU's from a local seller on Craigslist @ $400 for the pair. The rest of the parts I ordered from Newegg for $1200. So overall I put in approx $1600.

  • 64 months ago
  • 2 points

Nice! Btw, beautiful cable management :)

And np, glad to help you out and give you some pointers. Hope it all goes smoothly for you.

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  • 64 months ago
  • 2 points

Yes, I indeed was referring to Twitch Streaming, however that is more demanding on my internet than on my computer. It only affects my computer by forcing it to multitask, which isn't a problem. The reason I chose AMD over Intel was indeed for the 8 cores.

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  • 64 months ago
  • 1 point

My bad guys, you're right, core count does matter with streaming. And I'll be the first to admit I don't know anything about rendering looool

  • 60 months ago
  • 1 point

The small difference in fps from amd to intel will be made up when dx12 comes out, as with dx12 more cores will make a noticeable boost in performance so an amd cpu might become a better choice in early 2015

  • 64 months ago
  • 3 points

I learned something today; I thought the UD3 motherboard didn't support the 220W 9000-series CPU, but it turns out that rev. 4.0 does. Overclocking that CPU won't yield much tough; AMD have already cranked all they could out of it, it has little to no headroom left.

  • 64 months ago
  • 2 points

Yes, not all UD3 motherboards will support the 9000 series as far as I know, which is why I went into deep research while picking out which mobo to choose.

  • 64 months ago
  • 1 point

Yeah, it's nice to see Gigabyte improving the power section of this board. I blew the VRMs on a rev. 1 UD3 overclocking a FX-8150 a few years ago.

  • 64 months ago
  • 3 points

That cable management makes me happy with all the zip ties.

  • 64 months ago
  • 2 points

Thank you, I was the one that did the cable management for him. OP can confirm.

  • 64 months ago
  • 2 points

Best cable management behind the case I've ever seen, but the front, not so much. It doesn't look clean and tight enough if you know what I mean.

  • 64 months ago
  • 2 points

Thank you, I was the one that did the cable management. OP can confirm.

  • 64 months ago
  • 1 point

I suppose the only loose cables in the front are right by the CPU, which is hard to tighten down with the fact that it is a maze of cords right there. Also, the red cords powering the GPU's could be tighter, but i did not want to risk kinking the cords, or having the cords unplugged while my system was running.

  • 64 months ago
  • 2 points

i have one suggestion. if you move the hdd down to the lower drive bay you can remove the top drive bay, letting air move more freely over to the gpus.

otherwise, this is a great r4 build. i love seeing them, this looks awesome.

  • 64 months ago
  • 2 points

Just after taking these photos, and before posting this build, I actually did do that very suggestion. I also moved the mounted fan in the front of the R4. It comes automatically pointing at the bottom HDD bay, but i moved it to be pushing air though the main portion of the case.

  • 64 months ago
  • 2 points

All about personal preference, nice build, who cares who out performs who, its about what the person spending the cash wants,,, and that's the bottom line, if you can smell that,, great build +1

  • 64 months ago
  • 2 points

+1 great build!!! things I would have done different is the ram at 1866 instead of 1600, and also if you can put the computer on a hard surface flip the PSU (fan facing down) so it isn't fighting for air with the GPU which definitely gets hot in crossfire, and sure the psu will live longer (lol) intaking cold air.. but nice build, ENJOY it!!

  • 63 months ago
  • 2 points

Can you explain why so many people settle for 1600 when 1866 is the obvious choice?

  • 63 months ago
  • 3 points

beats me..... if the cpu supports up to 1866 I would say its better, many ppl buy up to 2400 with the i5K and i7K (lack of knowledge could be the answer)

  • 64 months ago
  • 1 point

I did put some thought into the orientation of the PSU, but I have no desk space to put the computer, so it goes on the carpet. Since I did not want to suffocate the power supply, I put the fan up. Also, although the air might be a little warmer, There is plenty of airflow the the entire case, and the PSU is also drawing warm air away from the GPU's.

  • 64 months ago
  • 1 point

yes, that's the way it has to go if you its gonna be on a carpet...

  • 56 months ago
  • 2 points

AMD Overdrive. OC utility for AMD CPU and GPU.

  • 51 months ago
  • 2 points

Kick a$s build! Solid choice on the CPU. Probably would of went with 1866 RAM, personally.

I have the same case....love it

  • 64 months ago
  • 1 point

Sweet bulid ! +1

  • 64 months ago
  • 1 point

Let's be honest here, GabeN only invented Steam because he dropped a CD on the ground and didn't want to pick it up. This is an extremely lazy man we're talking about here; however, you did do a fantastic job on this build.

"One part Alize, one part Crystal" -TooPuck Shaq

  • 63 months ago
  • 1 point

Your setup is like a dream to me! Hell an AMD build @ $1500? How did you do it? was $1500 the target? I have to reconsider my plans then. Upvoted this too!

  • 61 months ago
  • 2 points

I have an AMD build with 12TB of storage as well as room for expansion for more drives. It does include the 9590 with high end water cooler from coolermaster. It only has 8GB of 1600 but it works for what it is going to do. The computer will also have a Nvidia Titan Black in it. The reason for the card is due to the fact that I won it in a game tournament. The entire cost of the build is about $1100.

  • 61 months ago
  • 1 point

Yes I am interested, where are you based? Can you be able to ship to the middle east? To Abu Dhabi, UAE? Regards

  • 59 months ago
  • 1 point

How well is the Corsair CLC handling the 9590?

I ask this because soon i will be doing a $800 upgrade for my pc with a 9590/asus sabertooth/32gb ram. And all that will be shoved into a CoolerMaster Haf-XB Lan cube case.

  • 58 months ago
  • 1 point

Sorry if I am late, haven't checked this thread in a while. If I am not to late, or anyone else wonders, this cooler handles this CPU without any problem. The Corsair Link software is not my favorite, and the only downsides if any are heat/noise, but only if under heavy load for long periods of time. I recommend it.

  • 57 months ago
  • 1 point

best looking am3+ board on the market

  • 51 months ago
  • 1 point

Why do you randomly capitalize words? lol :p

  • 50 months ago
  • 1 point

+1 Great Cable Managment. Nice use of Graphics Cards. And that is one powerful processor.

  • 42 months ago
  • 1 point

intel es mchusisisISIsimo mejor que amd y las ati son bien malonas OKNO buen trabajo bonita construccion

  • 35 months ago
  • 1 point

All the steam sales

  • 63 months ago
  • 0 points

1+ 4 GABEN!!!

  • 56 months ago
  • 0 points

Wow. Talk about quality photos...

  • 51 months ago
  • 1 point

seriously?

where are your photos of your Intel Duo? lolz

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  • 64 months ago
  • 2 points

I considered how to orient the PSU, and because my computer is sitting on carpet, I put the fan up so the power supply wouldn't suffocate.

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