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Planned this build to last 5 years before complete replacement, it's a higher-budget - long lasting build, I went for parts which were in the high end budget rate and had good potential for overclocking later in their life to kep them a little more relevent. (for example I chose a new unlocked i7, but not an Extreme Edition since the diminishing performance returns and price difference were prohibitive). There is room to upgrade it in the future, perhaps new graphics cards in 2-3 years.

It replaced a very old AMD Athlon 64 (3700+)/ GeForce 7900GS based setup, which was around 6 years old and still able to play recent games, even if they demanded a dualcore such as Deus Ex Human Revolution. (Although, I have a high tolerance for sub-30fps gaming and dealing with occasional stalls and problems. Many other people would have regarded it as unplayable, despite being fairly enjoyable), so I suspect this will last to that age (Or hope, since tech is advancing faster and faster).

The only major problem I had was I was doing everything in the order things were written in the manual, to be sure I didn't skip anything important, this resulted in me having to go from a more or less built system to take the motherboard out just to insert the wifi module. For some odd (And stupid)reason the insertion of the motherboard is shown in the maual before the wifi unit. I know the manual isn't a step-by-step, but that was a seriously dumb move.

Cable management with the stiff wires and the huge quantity of PCI-e power cables (4) was also difficult, but once I got it sorted it was out of airflow. It's still not pretty, but you have to remember I'm using every single socket bar one on the PSU, and all those cables take up a rediculous amount of room, even for such a large case. I think a modular PSU may have been a mistake, but it's one I can work around myself.

It is currently missing a corasir watercooler, but I decided to wait before I bought this, since I don't need to overclock it immediately and I could do with spending money on other things.

So far, it's running well. Having a little trouble with Intels poorer than expected cooler (Which has no fan guard and is generally terrible at cooling) but aside that I'm enjoying my new PC.

Feel free to ask questions, I've probably forgotten things people actually want to hear.

EDIT:

Ok, I know about the cable management, and I'm sure I was being over-careful not to damage my motherboard, I should be able to route more of it on the back plate, use the longer ATX power cable, and clear some airspace I'm going to place a good portion of the blame on the modular supply still, since an old one without 15 or so power connector slots and thick wire bunches would've been more maneuverable. Or if the power supply had been at the top of the case.

I'd appreciate something more constructive than "lol cablez" as a comment. Feel free to go ahead, but you're wasting your time. Those who are suggesting other parts, I'd genuinely like to know why you think I chose badly, I may learn something new.

For anyone still interested, I've been using it for a few days after work (I work a nightshift and don't get much time at home by the way, or I'd have already fixed the cabling, or tried to.) and it's been running amazingly so far. Once I redo the cabling and optimise windows and my hardrive layout (It's a mess because I have my old desktops HDD in there and it's in a lot of broken partitions for various reasons) I'm 100% certain I'll be happy for a long time to come.

Comments

  • 82 months ago
  • 7 points

Dude can you teach me how to manage my cables like you do? DAYYUMM. You might as well have bought a 20 dollar case if your gonna do that.

  • 82 months ago
  • 0 points

His comment about difficulty managing cables almost seems like a troll comment. His case has amazing room behind the motherboard tray yet it looks like none of his cables are routed behind the motherboard. I have nearly as many cables in my case yet you can't see any of them. :P go figure.

  • 82 months ago
  • 3 points

You do install the motherboard before the wifi card.

And lol, those cables are terrible. Probably killing airflow.

Why two 660 Tis instead of a single 680 or 7970? Also, you wasted some money on the i7 and the motherboard.

  • 82 months ago
  • 1 point

No. You don't. the backplate and the pin line-up means you'd literally scrape the pins off before it was even close. Plus the screw is on the backside of the board. It's a module, just above the DVI/HDMI outputs for the onboard graphics, not a pci card.

I'm aware of this, I think I was being too careful not to snap things off the board. I should've pointed out that I've not built a PC from nothing before, only upgraded and modified them, so I was pretty worried of breaking it. I never put a motherboard into a case prior to this. They're not really killing airflow. They're not going to be helping a great deal, but there is plenty of airflow room, it just doesn't look pretty.

A mixture of value and performance. I know it has a slower memory bitrate, but the clock speed means I can keep a solid framerate even with a lot of driver level effects on (High AA/AF) and PhysX. Cuda-based media transcoding seems to be pretty fast too (boy am I sick of my laptops time and 20% to encode anything to something).

I might have been able to choose a better setup for my money, but I'm not convinced I chose badly either.

  • 82 months ago
  • 1 point

Its true you could have saved a chunk of change but you certainly did not choose badly. You will definitely enjoy your system as you intended. Most expensive Ivy Bridge CPU + a good SLI, most people here would be very happy to have your system. I too just recently built my computer in a smaller case. I put pictures up go take a look. the cable situation behind the motherboard is horrible, but thats the point.

Pro tip with cables - Bend them to the desired position before routing them. Your cables will stay in the shape you bend them, so don't worry about that.

  • 75 months ago
  • 1 point

Two 660 Tis best a 680 or a 7970.

  • 82 months ago
  • 2 points

Couple questions? Since you indicated this is purely for gaming, why go with the i7 over the i5? Hyper threading will most likely never be benefited in gaming. Infact when I tested my i5 3570k machiens vs a friend i7 at the same clock's my machine out performed his. Also you said you are planning this to be upgradable and to last 5 years? Why 2 660ti's? when you could have easily gone with a single GTX 670 now and added another in the future putting you even more future proofed then not having the ability to SLi in the future? I personally would have gone with a single card over two 660ti's such as a Ghz 7970 or a 680.
I SLI'ed 2 GTX 670's and had absolutely no issues with cable management in a smaller case.

  • 82 months ago
  • 0 points

Intended purely for it, yes. But gaming is not all I do, and my laptop is becoming more and more inconvenient to use for doing anything on due to its age. I will probably end up selling it and doing everything on my desktop, or retiring it.

I bought the i7 for its performance and low power consumption, as well as overclocking. The i5 matches it, but when I looked into it, hyperthreading looked like it would become more useful over time, and would prolong viability of the processor as games start being able to use more cores, or even demanding them. If it turns out I wasted a little money, then whoops. I guess It'll be a good home server-PC in 6 years time.

See above for the 660ti answer.

  • 82 months ago
  • -2 points

He went with an i7 because he wants it to last 5 years.

  • 82 months ago
  • 2 points

The fact that it's an i7 doesn't mean it will last longer, an i5 will always be as good as an i7 for gaming, no matter how old it is

  • 82 months ago
  • 1 point

The physics in games will become more CPU dependent as time goes on. In 5 years I'm willing to bet you will be able to see significant performance differences between them. Btw I wouldn't buy an i7 for gaming either seeing that Haswell is coming soon.

  • 82 months ago
  • 1 point

I think games in the future will utilize nvidia physx or similar software, which keep games more gpu dependent, and minimize cpu bottle-necking. Also, even if games were to become more cpu dependent, an ivy bridge i7 would be too far out of date

  • 82 months ago
  • 1 point

Games have already been more dependent on CPU yet an i7 is still a horrible waste of money for gaming. I don't know of a CPU that was released 5 years ago which is relevent at all compared to current CPUs with current games.

  • 82 months ago
  • 1 point

My old Athlon 64 3700+ running at a slight overclock (wouldn't boot after a certain FSB speed) @2.442 Ghz was running games as recent as Deus Ex: Human Revolution and Bioshock 2 with hiccups in only a couple of places. That thing is a Single core and about 8 years old now.

I should probably emphasise that I'm comfortable with most settings on low except for AA and Textures on games, and will beat games at 20-40FPS@1024x768 and enjoy doing it (Or I did. Playing Borderlands 2 at the moment is... amazing.). My definition of "Last" is probably a bucketload longer than yours, or most peoples.

  • 82 months ago
  • 0 points

This won't even last past Haswell.

  • 82 months ago
  • 0 points

that makes absolutely no sense what so ever.

  • 82 months ago
  • 1 point

Did you even try to do any cable management? Specs wise, it's fine. But that cable management is atrocious.

  • 82 months ago
  • 1 point

Awesome cable management!

  • 82 months ago
  • 1 point

"It's hard to manage cables in this case." Really. A full tower case? I beg to differ.

  • 82 months ago
  • 1 point

Believe it or not, yes. It's not the cases fault, but more the PSU's cables. They're a little shorter than would be perfect and are really stiff. I was worried that them straigtening themselves backup would snap connectors off the board.

I have had a look see though, and I was being too careful not to bend them, so I will be re-doing the cables this weekend. if I bend them to the angle needed before pushing them through the gromits they should be fine.

  • 81 months ago
  • 1 point

nice build, very even and seems like it would run very well, but why, with 2 video cards and the processor you have, not just go to 12 or 16 gb's of RAM?

  • 75 months ago
  • 1 point

Sorry for the huge delay, at the time I was skipping it to lower the cost slightly. Once the price drops to less than £25 a stick, I'll be purchasing the other two sticks of RAM.

As a general update for any who care, after about 6 months the system is running amazingly (Although still on stock cooler, I hit a bump in my cashflow with a bike crash) and I'm now enjoying an amazing ASUS VX238H monitor I'll add to the buildlist after I buy my RAM.

  • 82 months ago
  • 0 points

Holy CABLE MANAGEMENT!

  • 82 months ago
  • 0 points

EW THEM CABLES

  • 82 months ago
  • 0 points

about to order the parts, any areas i can save money or upgrade a part at a similar or cheaper price?

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/kQ4s

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