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Despite of having too much lighting this is not a gaming rig. I use this system primarily for machine learning as well as algorithm development. These kind of workloads guided choice of components, Optane SSDs for search algorithms and Titan RTXs for machine learning. I could not use 2080 Ti, not enough memory. Going with Quadro 6000 would not give much but significantly more expensive.

This system was originally running with air cooling. Some of machine learning tasks take many days to complete with GPUs running close to 100%. On air they would get very hot and were throttling. Throttling would add more time to already very long runs. This led me to upgrade to custom loop. I've done couple of custom loops before but they were on soft tubes. This is my first hard tube build and it is far from perfect from esthetics point of view. But it cuts running time for ML tasks by about 20 percent which is quite significant as I can do more runs and get better models.

My cable management skills are non existent so I will not show back of the case. But there are so many cables: power, fans, temperature and flow sensors, aquabus, usb, various leds, that i'm not sure how to handle them. I really like this case with one exception, there is only about an inch wide space behind the main compartment to fit all the cables in. I was not successful in achieving this, the case is open in the back for now.

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  • 8 months ago
  • 67 points

OK fine you win.

  • 8 months ago
  • 15 points

All these comments about choices based around gaming show they didn't read the description...

Was there any reason you opted for the 9980XE over a Threadripper 2990WX? Do your particular work loads tend to favor Intel or was it purely to allow for the use of Optane drives and their search algorithms?

Either way, stunning PC! I find it funny people invest more in a home PC than a work PC when chances are they're spending more time on their Work PC xD I'd do something similar but I've changed roles to one that requires me to be mobile so ZenBook Pro Duo for me :(

  • 8 months ago
  • 19 points

I originally want it to be a 2990WX system. However for my use cases what matters is performance of GPUs and performance of storage, as long as CPU performance is decent. In that regard both 2990WX and 9980XE are fine. I went with Intel because of the motherboard. This EVGA board supports 5 optane drives and two GPUs, all connected to CPU PCI lanes. I could not find a board like that for Threadripper.

  • 8 months ago
  • 9 points

Makes perfect sense, thanks for the reply!

  • 7 months ago
  • 3 points

You probably could have used something like this though I'm not sure how the overall cost would have compared.

  • 7 months ago
  • 4 points

Thanks for the link, I might need it one day.

  • 6 months ago
  • 2 points

"as long as CPU performance is decent" , has arguably most powerful consumer CPU in existence lol +1

  • 3 months ago
  • 1 point

Interesting choice of Windows 10 OEM. What kind of models are you training and are you running Minikube locally for staging? How 'difficult' it is to set up liquid cooling for GPUs? Thinking of building something similar.

  • 2 months ago
  • 2 points

In reality it runs Ubuntu 18.04. Setting up liquid cooling is not difficult at all, especially in big case where you have a lot of room. I also found that hard tube build is easier than soft tube.

  • 8 months ago
  • 7 points

Anyone else like "The Expanse"?

  • 7 months ago
  • 4 points

Currently my favorite show.

  • 7 months ago
  • 2 points

just finished season 1!

  • 7 months ago
  • 1 point

Watched the entire thing on netflix still REALLLLYYY mad that netflix didn't buy the rights for it... Wanted to see the ending....

  • 7 months ago
  • 0 points

wait...did it get cancelled? I'll be upset if true. I heard they were accurate to the books so I suppose I could just read those. (lol reading)

  • 7 months ago
  • 2 points

Rumor I've heard is that Amazon bought the rights for it because Jeff Bezos is huge fan. Hopefully they will continue. It sort of accurate to the books but there are major differences.

  • 7 months ago
  • 1 point

that would be awesome if that was true! I really enjoy the show.

  • 7 months ago
  • 2 points

Rocinante is on Amazon now I believe

  • 8 months ago
  • 6 points

Someone payed more for theirs than I did mine. Now I feel better. Sweet build!

  • 1 month ago
  • 1 point

Relax, no one will check your build .. lmao

  • 8 months ago
  • 5 points

How can people afford this??

(Guess I cant really talk as I’m not old enough to get a job, lol)

  • 8 months ago
  • 10 points

It's a business expense.

  • 7 months ago
  • 5 points

Hmmm, I'm thinking about going into "machine learning as well as algorithm development."

Awesome build btw.

  • 8 months ago
  • 2 points

Hey man, checked out your account, seems you want to learn about good builds or whatnot for possible future upgrades to your 'potato' haha If you have any questions message me or really anyone here who has a build you seem to like; people are usually pretty helpful when it comes to this stuff :)

yeah mate, I'm about to graduate and have a job lined up to start in December. I WILL be upgrading my already-decent build, but I'm talking like $2500 worth of upgrades. Don't get me wrong, $2500 worth of upgrades is a lot of money! This guy is making serious money (hopefully) from this build so it's completely justified.

  • 8 months ago
  • 2 points

Thanks kalef21, but I think I have it all figured out now :) just gotta keep an eye on pricing etc until I can actually afford something!

  • 7 months ago
  • 1 point

hey i saw some of your part lists and this is basically like the first one (2600 rx 590 but its a bit cheaper) idk if you like sffpc but you can always change the case. https://pcpartpicker.com/list/X2nwGG

  • 7 months ago
  • 1 point

Thanks, xNightReaperx, but I’m not building until early 2020, and prices are going to change between now and then. I also prefer to not use water cooling :)

Edit: all of the other lists are just modifications of the first one, I like to experiment to see what-works-with-what

  • 7 months ago
  • 2 points

Your welcome and ok.

  • 7 months ago
  • 5 points

Found the start of Skynet.

  • 8 months ago
  • 4 points

Top-level spec list man. +1 for being a noble steed.

  • 8 months ago
  • 2 points

Noice

  • 8 months ago
  • -2 points

Why tho do you need this power

  • 8 months ago
  • 5 points

For machine learning.

  • 8 months ago
  • -1 points

?

  • 8 months ago
  • 3 points

Basically overpowered AI that can learn things by itself. I think...

  • 8 months ago
  • 3 points

intelligence 100

  • 8 months ago
  • 2 points

So, your creating ai with an almost unnecessary amount of power. What for? World domination of course. At least, if you were like me world domination would be the answer.

  • 8 months ago
  • 2 points

One question: Is this tax deductible? ;)

Nonetheless pretty awesome build

  • 8 months ago
  • 4 points

Of cause it is. I wouldn't have done it otherwise.

  • 8 months ago
  • 1 point

Seeing as you said in another reply, that this is a 'business expense', what does your boss thing of the pink and green? lol. Nice system either way though, hopefully they dig the colors as I do too.

  • 8 months ago
  • 11 points

I work as a consultant. I'm one man company and boss of myself: )

  • 8 months ago
  • 12 points

Nice, so your boss must love this rig as much as you do lol

  • 7 months ago
  • -1 points

Oh, so it's not really a business expense, you just wrote it off as one.

  • 7 months ago
  • 1 point

Actually it is, I only use this machine for my consulting business.

  • 4 months ago
  • 1 point

Can you tell me more about how you got into consulting with this?

  • 8 months ago
  • 1 point

Congrats on the win ! That Acer Predator is just as smooth as you can ask for. I was blown away by the attention to detail and feeling like a scrub with my current project. Thank for mentioning I am not the only one with cable woes. TBH , I need to return the corsair 460 mid and get a full tower.
anyway GRATZ!!!!!

  • 8 months ago
  • 1 point

Wow this is just.....

Words escape me.....

Spec wise top of the line. Build wise top of the line.

My cable management skills are non existent so I will not show back of the case.

Cable management? What the eye does not see my friend, what the eye does not see.....

High five for the feature, you deserve it.

  • 8 months ago
  • 1 point

Nice (Bookmarked)

  • 8 months ago
  • 1 point

WOW

  • 8 months ago
  • 1 point

Is that a Cygnus X-I reference from Book One: The Voyage?

  • 8 months ago
  • 1 point

I was wondering the same thing!

  • 7 months ago
  • 1 point

It's a reference to TV show "Expanse"

  • 8 months ago
  • 1 point

I would be willing to come manage your cables for you if we lived near each other. Great build. +1

  • 7 months ago
  • 1 point

I was watching one of Singularity Computer build videos and Daniel said that the only realistic way to manage so many cable is to make all the cables yourself. I might need to learn how to do this.

  • 8 months ago
  • 1 point

Beautiful! Thought I had a dope pc. Mine don't hold a flame to yours brother. Nicely done!

  • 3 months ago
  • 0 points

Thanks!

  • 8 months ago
  • 1 point

Good to know this exists

  • 8 months ago
  • 1 point

I love the name

  • 7 months ago
  • 1 point

"Expanse" all the way!

  • 7 months ago
  • 1 point

The name mean "workhorse" which this PC is! +1

  • 8 months ago
  • 1 point

It's basically like a commandeered MCRN corsair. You're not Holden are you?

  • 7 months ago
  • 2 points

I wish :)

  • 8 months ago
  • 1 point

Wow. Just Wow.

  • 8 months ago
  • 1 point

ok real question. how do u have the money for this haha

  • 7 months ago
  • 2 points

I don't have money for it, I make money with it.

  • 7 months ago
  • 1 point

wow oh ok, is it profitable in terms of paying back the parts, internet and power it uses?? =)

  • 7 months ago
  • 1 point

Yes, it is. I wouldn't have build it otherwise.

  • 7 months ago
  • 1 point

God damn I love the name Rocinante.

Gives me huge nostalgia.

  • 7 months ago
  • 1 point

"Expanse" anyone?

  • 7 months ago
  • 1 point

Really dig the color scheme you went with for the pictures. For your first hard bend PC, looks sharp! Glad to hear it deducts the machine learning time by 20% too!

  • 7 months ago
  • 1 point

Thanks! My next hardline build is going to be better, I promise :)

  • 7 months ago
  • 1 point

By that, do you mean like 20k-30k just for another PC for the future?

  • 7 months ago
  • 1 point

I actually don't know yet. Doing new build right now but it's been a long time coming. One of the requirements is that it's a powerful hackintosh, in addition to Linux of cause. Some of the software I'm using runs best on Macs. On one hand supporting hackintosh is a hassle because OS upgrades sometime break it. But I don't think I want to buy Mac Pro, I had them before and it's a bad investment. I have some other rather unusual requirements but I'll wait until build is finished and I publish it.

  • 7 months ago
  • 1 point

could you specify in practice what you mean by machine learning as well as algorithm development? thanks, interested

  • 7 months ago
  • 1 point

Unfortunately most details are confidential. I build models for various ML algorithms, for example recurrent neural networks. Use cases are different but it mostly for security related stuff. I use AWS extensively but it's kind of expensive so I augment it with my own boxes, saves me money. Algorithms that I develop are specialized (not Google like) search over very large data sets with non-typical distribution of terms. It probably does not answer your question but I can't go into more details.

  • 7 months ago
  • 1 point

nice - a secret agent thanks anyway

  • 7 months ago
  • 1 point

Sweet build. I like the parallel block between the VC plates.

  • 7 months ago
  • 1 point

This block is not simply rectangular, it has angles and they produce nice reflections.

  • 7 months ago
  • 1 point

Its a bit expensive

  • 7 months ago
  • 1 point

Yes, it is. I just tried to configure something like this on Digitalstorm. I was not able to do it, even using their biggest case. And what I was able to configure was already over $20K. Ideal workstation for me would be Nvidia DGX Station https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/data-center/dgx-station/ but it's $70K. It's probably twice the performance of Rocinante but I just can't justify the price.

  • 7 months ago
  • 1 point

Stunning build, even though you say not far gaming I'm sure that you wouldn't have issues gaming on that beast.

  • 7 months ago
  • 1 point

cool.

  • 7 months ago
  • 1 point

This build is beautiful... +1

  • 7 months ago
  • 1 point

Now we just need to ask NZXT to send us one of these for free since they love to give out free PC's. ;)

  • 7 months ago
  • 1 point

Beautiful build! Meticulous. Expensive. How you afford it, I will never know. But, I tip my cap to you and your business. Have you tried gaming on this? Curious as to how phenomenal your frames and overall experience is. Thanks for the post.

  • 7 months ago
  • 2 points

Have not tried gaming yet. Computer gaming is not my thing. I tried a few times but was so bad at it that it just made me angry and I quit. But I do own ten or so games, not the latest versions but decent. One of these days when I'll be sitting around bored out of my mind I'll try again and on this machine. Unfortunately sitting around and being bored is not something I can afford right now. In retirement then...

  • 7 months ago
  • 1 point

Liking that name, god I wish Expanse continued on Netflix. Need to get me an amazon prime account.

Nice PC btw!

  • 7 months ago
  • 2 points

Yes, get Amazon Prime. Amazon Video is actually very good.

  • 7 months ago
  • 1 point

But can it even bitcoin?

  • 7 months ago
  • 1 point

Incredible build!!!

  • 7 months ago
  • 1 point

18947.69$ well I sure hope you didn't make god displeased. "the bruise below his eye looked angry and sore"+1

  • 7 months ago
  • 1 point

I hope so too:)

  • 7 months ago
  • 1 point

Looks like a NASA PC haha, amazing work

  • 7 months ago
  • 1 point

Can it run more than 1 chrome tab tho

  • 7 months ago
  • 1 point

How are the drives configured and do you have any benchmark scores for them?

  • 7 months ago
  • 1 point

There are four Intel 905P 960GB drives (two PCI card form factor, two U.2 form factor) and two Samsung 970 Pro 1TB. Due to configuration of PCI slots one of the 905P PCI cards is connected to PCH, other three drives are connected to CPU directly. It is my understanding that mixing CPU and PCH drives in the same raid array significantly reduces performance, at least that is what Intel says. So, I use PCH connected drive for Windows and other three are configured as VROC RAID0 array. That is where Ubuntu installed (Ubuntu supports VROC out of the gate, no need to load any drivers during install) and where I do all my work. Samsung drives are not used at the moment. Google has excellent suggestion how properly benchmark SSDs but it requires overwriting the entire drive, so I can't do it at the moment. Very simple benchmark that I can run gives 6.9 GB/s read rate and 0.01 msec access time. This benchmark does not produce write rate.

I just run CrystalDiskMark in Windows against it single PCH connected drive. Sequential read: 2.7 GB/s, sequential write: 2.4 GB/s, random 4KB read: 2.4 GB/s, random 4KB write: 2.2 GB/s.

What really important for me is random small reads, and acess time, so I think I'm good there.

  • 7 months ago
  • 1 point

I managed to run Google recommended benchmarks, you can find it here: https://cloud.google.com/compute/docs/disks/performance.

Results for my RAID array under Ubuntu: Sequential read: 8 GB/s. Sequential write: 7.1 GB/s. Random read of 4KB blocks: 363K operations per second.

  • 7 months ago
  • 1 point

I'll give you $50 for it

  • 7 months ago
  • 1 point

is this the ship from the amazon series

  • 7 months ago
  • 1 point

Yes, it is.

  • 4 months ago
  • 1 point

Before you switched to water cooled, did you use a GPU with an external AIO or fan blowers? I am guessing an AIO with throttle too :( If you can get back to me, I really want to learn from your sweet build.

  • 2 months ago
  • 1 point

I used huge external fan.

  • 3 months ago
  • 1 point

damn thats alot of ram

  • 3 months ago
  • 1 point

my eyes are blessed

  • 1 month ago
  • 1 point

Can you run minesweeper?

  • 1 month ago
  • 1 point

But can it run Crysis 3??

  • 1 month ago
  • 1 point

Impressive build, but is machine learning 😅 ?

  • 1 month ago
  • 1 point

id stick my dong in this pc +1

  • 22 days ago
  • 1 point

Hello! First off, awesome build! I had a question or two.

I’m wanting to get into machine learning, mainly surrounding the field of finance. I’m going back to school to get experience in coding first, either computer science with a minor in math, or math with a minor in computer science (still researching). And I’m wanting to build a computer that can do machine learning, just might be a few years down the road. Any suggestions on minimum requirements for 1) start to learn coding and 2) get into machine learning ?

Any suggestions or advice would be helpful.

  • 11 days ago
  • 1 point

I hope he is the most perfect case. The combination is awesome. The shape of 2990WX is too ugly. This is the most helpless. Intel continues to make CPUs with the same square on all four sides……

  • 5 months ago
  • 0 points

Can this run roblox

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  • 5 months ago
  • 1 point

I think people get wrong ideas about this subject. I'm computer scientist with 40 years experience. Recently I've been specialising in machine learning, statistical search and security. I no longer work for a company, I run my own consulting business. I've been successful doing it but have been putting 60-70 hours work week consistently, plus business travel. This type of schedule is hard on a new grad, let alone someone of my age. I'm lucky in that I possess some skills that are quite unique and in high demand, but I pay full price for it, and more.

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  • 7 months ago
  • 2 points

What do you mean by flex?

  • 7 months ago
  • 1 point

"Flex" means to boast or show off about something. In this sense, it is from a meme.