Description

I spent several months comparing the i7 9800X and TR 2920X. A 9800X would have been the best choice short term, but I refuse to pay $650 for an 8 core chip in 2019. Most X299 boards in my price range also have an abysmal amount of USB ports on the back and I didn't feel like buying expansions.

Then I saw the 1900X had dropped to $319.99, which I then coupled with a 15% off discount. This will be a pretty good upgrade from my 6700K with video editing and heavy DSP audio workloads(and even improve overall VI performance). I don't use high refresh rate monitors anymore, just a 32" 1080p TV, so when I do game on it, it won't hold me back.

Unfortunately, after several months of audio dropouts, running higher buffers than I'd prefer, and finding out that 3rd gen Threadripper won't work in X399 boards, I'll be switching back to Intel. This processor has been little more than a hindrance on my productivity, and the annoyances it has caused has led me to finishing very little of the work I had planned. My 6700K got better low latency audio performance half the time, which is just...sad lol.

Part Reviews

CPU

I have a torture test running right now while posting this build and writing the reviews. This monster doesn't care about anything. 4GHz with only 1.325v in BIOS, no LLC set. Tested with 3 hours of P95 small FFT torture test.

This beast also lets me run my guitar amp sim at a 48KHz sample rate with a tiny buffer size of only 16 without any pops or clicks. Insane.

BUT!...once I add anything else to the mix, I have to increase my buffer to 512. Very unfortunate. And unacceptable for tracking live instruments. Not as big of a deal with DSP only workloads but...I track live guitars and do live takes with my MIDI controllers. No bueno. Hell, just having an amp sim running with a media player playing a song for me to jam to, I get audio dropouts with a 256 buffer. Pathetic.

CPU Cooler

Not a bad cooler, very affordable. Much better than the H100i V2 that I was temporarily using due to the larger contact plate. It doesn't cover the full width of the IHS, but it covers the areas where the dies are located. Tests I've seen show it performing only slightly worse than the Noctua coolers that cost twice as much.

4 stars because the screws are cheap and for not being compatible with the 2 ML120 I wanted to put instead of the one stock fan, had to use the SP120L that came with an AIO I have.

Motherboard

All the features I needed without any of the flashy stuff that they charge more for. It's essentially the Gaming Pro Carbon AC without the WiFi/Bluetooth or fake carbon fiber.

A whopping 12 USB ports(8 USB 3.0, 2 USB 2.0, 1 USB 3.1 Gen 2 A, 1 USB 3.1 Gen 2 C). Clear CMOS button plenty of expansion slots, and RGB headers if you're into that sort of the thing. RGB on the board itself defaults to white, which is good, because that's what I wanted and I didn't have to download MSI's trash software.

Memory

One of the cheapest kits on my boards QVL. MSI claims these will run in quad channel at 2933, with 8 sticks needed to drop down to 2667. Luckily, I only want 64GB total, so I'm set.

Had no trouble at all running these using the 2933MHz profile. CL is 16 instead of 15, which is an annoyance, but not really an issue.

Case

Love this case. The velcro cable management straps were a lifesaver plus they give you a few more in the box. It's friggin huge though, which I wanted, but when I took it out of the box I was like "Damn..."

Speaking of boxes, that's what the screws come in. A plastic box with dividers and each type of screw separated. I opened the accessory box and immediately said "WHAAAAT" when I saw it. Thank you Phanteks for thinking this through.

I also like that the glass side panel is on a hinge. That was honestly the main thing that sold me on this version over the one with the acrylic side panel.

Custom

I hate this thing. I really do. The software is absolute garbage and it randomly decides to ignore your custom set fan curves. In my old system I've had games crash(GPU rad fan was hooked up to it) because the fan decided not to spin up even though it was supposed to and normally does. I've also had fans just randomly stop working. Opening HWiNFO also causes the software to derp and not show any of the fans you have plugged in until you restart the machine.

I'm only using this because my motherboard ramps up fans to 100% regardless of BIOS settings once the CPU hits a certain temp. I have all the fans connected to it running at static speeds, that seems to have the least issues.

Comments

  • 10 months ago
  • 3 points

The cow tipper...

The THREAD RIPPER!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tj-b7A4_5nU

  • 10 months ago
  • 1 point

Lmao wow. I can't believe I watched the entire thing. With his $1000 PSU.

  • 1 day ago
  • 1 point

Is it possible your dual GPU setup isn't playing well with this build? Maybe swap out for a single gtx 1060 TI, RX 5700, Also everything ive seen says AMD is best ran on RAM with 3200 freq. Not really familiar with the requirements for your needs.

  • 23 hours ago
  • 1 point

Dual GPUs haven't been used with this system for a while. It's core to core latency. All AMD CPUs with cores on multiple dies run into issues with low latency audio production. I really hope Intel doesn't start doing it too in order to get higher core counts.

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  • 10 months ago
  • 1 point

Shortly after 3rd gen TR comes out I'm probably grabbing this ;)

https://www.ekwb.com/shop/ek-fb-msi-x399-gaming-rgb-monoblock-nickel

  • 10 months ago
  • 1 point

I've heard EK are very good for custom loops. I don't know much about doing watercooling but I recognize a few bits. Looks nice. Will you be doing hard or soft tubing?

  • 10 months ago
  • 1 point

I've never done a custom loop before so I'm probably going to do black soft tubing for my first time. If I did hard tubing I would want to use angled fittings instead of bending the tubes and that gets expensive quick. $15+ for each turn haha.

  • 10 months ago
  • 1 point

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