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I would like to upgrade my old build that I purchased custom from ebay many years ago. The ram was 2x2gb and I replaced it with 2x8, 2 slots remain open since I won't use the old ram. Any help to speed this pc up would be appreciated. I use it mostly for flash games online.

Samsung evo 850 250gb on its way Next upgrade psu and video card

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  • 56 months ago
  • 2 points

I think AM3+ IS backward compatible with AM3 , so you could get a new AMD CPU . And get a new PSU . That is Tier 4 and will break that PC . After that , you could get a nice , flashy new gpu!

  • 56 months ago
  • 1 point

Thanks! I'll definitely look into a new psu while black Friday deals roll around, not sure if a new cpu,gpu will be beneficial enough for me since I'm not doing much gaming

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  • 56 months ago
  • 1 point

Thanks for the follow up, cpu/motherboard is at the bottom of my upgrade priority. I'd probably try an Intel next time around. Just trying to make this pc a little quicker, I know the HD is slowing me down quite a bit

  • 56 months ago
  • 2 points

Yeah putting a SSD in there for your OS and essentials will help, but you'll hit a speed cap with the motherboard only being capable of SATA II (3gb/s) speeds. So, a motherboard would actually be a higher priority upgrade to accommodate the other faster hardware.

  • 56 months ago
  • 1 point

I did read about the slower speeds because of the motherboard but given the 5400rpm hd I have now, it should be quite the boost I'm assuming. I'll see how the sales come along next month and go from there. Not sure which route to go with the mobo

  • 56 months ago
  • 2 points

First of all, I echo the comments about the PSU, which you're probably tired of hearing by now _~ I recommend an 80PLUS-rated power supply for a few reasons, the least of which is some level of guarantee of quality - you won't see companies send their $10 power supplies for being tested! It's also a lot better on power usage, since it will convert more power from the outlet into useful electricity for your computer.

Second, I wouldn't bother with a large SSD unless you have a serious use for it. Much more useful is to buy a decent-sized SSD (120 GB I'd call minimum, but you really don't need more most times than a 256) and install the important stuff on that, and use the 750GB as a storage drive. There's a bunch of ~120GB SSDs you can pick up for about $45 US and that'll hold a fair bit in terms of OS, utilities, and other content.

A dedicated video card is also a good purchase, because it seems that you're using the video card that's built into the motherboard. That means it's taking resources from system memory and possibly the CPU for video. Plugging in even a low-end video card would make a big difference. You have a PCI-E 2.0 x16 slot there; adding a physical video card would help a lot, and would even expand the list of games you could feasibly play. See http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-graphics-card-review,3107.html for recommendations based on your budget.

The last thing I'll point out is that, while historically AMD has been very good at powerful budget systems, that's been less true over the last while, and in fact it may be time to shift over to Intel. Realistically, AMD hasn't given Intel much competition for CPUs over the last few years, which made Intel able to actually compete much more strongly at the lower end of the market. Definitely something I'd consider. (I won't fault you for sticking with AMD though; their CPUs are still good. Just something to think about.)

  • 56 months ago
  • 1 point

I really appreciate all the insight, it's why I posted here. Pc hasn't been much of a hobby for me so I have a lack of knowledge. I take my gaming to ps4 (don't laugh at me) because it's a far less expensive hobby and my buddies have one.

My plan was to use the ssd/hd as u stated but as the deals roll around if I can get a larger ssd for the same cost, why not. Today I seen the 240gb ocz arc100 for $60 after rebate but I'm not sold on the reviews.

I do like the idea of going Intel after all the positives I've read but I just cant make the budget for it and didn't want to start over completely.

By Christmas I'll have the ssd, psu and video card. Maybe a mobo,cpu bundle if I find something great on sale. I have a microcenter near by that has pretty good deals and of course online retailers

  • 56 months ago
  • 2 points

If you do go Intel, socket 1150 is the best current option for the most part. If you can afford it, Socket 1151 (not compatible with 1150!) will be better but your parts will cost more. The lowest-end 1151 CPU right now is the G4500, which is a dual-core 3.5GHz CPU with no hyperthreading for $120 (at NCIX), and it goes up from there. See http://pcpartpicker.com/parts/cpu/#k=30&sort=a7 to see what I mean, and you can get a board at about $70 or so. But it also means you're likely going for DDR4 memory, which will also mean you can't use the DDR3 that's in your current system. You can get a decent 1150 CPU and motherboard for that same $120 and save memory on having to get new RAM.

Also, with respect to the SSD, I'd look at the specs as well. There's some less-expensive ones that are still a speed upgrade from a mechanical hard drive but have reads of like 500ish and writes around 140ish, whereas some slightly-better-and-barely-more-expensive ones can hit 500+ in both read and write speeds. And by slightly better I mean less than $10 difference, sometimes less than $5.

Good luck!

  • 56 months ago
  • 1 point

Someone local was selling a 1155 for around 250 mobo+cpu i5-3570k but since I don't know the amount of use, I'll shy away from it and wait for something new.

I did find an samsung evo 850 250gb ssd for 75 at frys but their website is being a pain, I'll try again later. Write and read both in the 500s if I upgrade my mobo/cpu

  • 56 months ago
  • 2 points

Evos are good at least according to specs. As for the 1155: the 1155 came first, then the 1156, them the 1150, them the 1151, in a row. And none are compatible with each other. For the same price you can get into a healthy 1150 cpu and a decent board new or even start glancing at 1151. Note too that you can get into 1150 for much lower - about half that will get you a G3258 and compatible board, and the G3258 is quite a respectable low-end cpu. I'd pass on the 3570 personally. Besides, by the time you have the other parts, 1151 and 1150 prices will likely have dropped again.

  • 56 months ago
  • 1 point

Thank u I'll keep the 1150 in mind to utilize this ddr3 ram as I just bought it a little while ago

  • 56 months ago
  • 1 point

Thermaltake TR2 Gold 450W Continuous Power ATX12V is this an acceptable psu or should I go for a different brand? Thanks

  • 56 months ago
  • 2 points

I've generally stayed away from Thermaltake's power supplies personally. I don't have any experience with Thermaltake's products in general, but I just did a quick search on PCPP to see if there were any reviews on the supply, and none of the sites that carry it - including Newegg and Amazon - have any reviews at all on it. Either it's a really new unit, or people are generally less interested in it than in other units for some reason or other. Also note that $20 of that price is from a "rebate card", which you have to apply for.

I've read very good things about EVGA, and am even using one in my current system. JonnyGURU did a review in mid-July about the lowest-end PSU they offered, which was a 400W without even an 80PLUS rating, and he was impressed with the quality of the system overall, even though it failed 80PLUS standards (which it never advertised that it had). That being said, the lowest I normally suggest is their 430W 80+ Certified unit ( http://pcpartpicker.com/part/evga-power-supply-100w10430kr ) but if you don't mind a lower wattage, Seasonic is one of the best names in the business. They are the OEM for many better-quality PSUs, and they have a 350W Bronze PSU ( http://pcpartpicker.com/part/seasonic-power-supply-ssp350st ) that you might want to look at.

So that's my suggestions for a Power Supply. If you can find a good quality higher-than-Bronze-rated unit, go for it, but in that price range I'd still be looking at someone other than Thermaltake, even if it means dropping down to Bronze to get it. Before you pin down a supply, make sure you look for reviews, even if you can only find them at the sites where it's user reviews rather than professional ones.

  • 52 months ago
  • 1 point

I actually went with that exact 430w evga, unintentionally. It was 15 after rebate. After installing the Samsung evo850 It helped my pc performance incredibly, especially in boot times and my online game. Unfortunately the gpu didn't help at all (msi r7 250). I'll be passing this pc to my family as I build my own pc

  • 20 months ago
  • 1 point

Don't even wait for Black Friday. Get a new one ASAP. Corsair CXM 550W or better would be nice, or a CXM 450W. Maybe an M12 Bronze 520W from Seasonic.

  • 56 months ago
  • 0 points

Getting something as flashy as a 500gb ssd would not work in this build. For sure you need a new PSU and maybe a new CPU.

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  • 56 months ago
  • 1 point

Well it costs that today, it's very old but I will next month. Haven't been using my pc daily

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