Description

I use it for gaming at high refresh rate at 4k. It works well.

I overclocked the i9 9900k to 5.0GHz all cores with 1.320v vcore and a -2 AVX offset. I can't go to 5.1GHz without dangerous levels of voltage. Not terrible, but I definitely did not win any sillicon lottery.

The memory is overclocked to 3700MHz with the default timings of 17-19-19-39. Anything more and I get instability in Prime95.

The graphics cards are overclocked +45 core clocks and +300 memory clocks.

The only nvlink connector I could find in stock was EVGA's. I had to remove the plastic casing from it because it had points that jutted out forwards and it wouldn't fit otherwise. It looks worse, but I don't really care. I opted for a solid side panel and no RGB elements because I'm going for a low key look. In fact, I turned off all the RGB for the components that came with it.

If you just go by the spec sheets, the Fractal Design Define R6 says it can't fit E-ATX motherboards this long, but it can fit as long as you thread all the power cables through the grommets first, and then screw in the motherboard, as the 24-pin connector can not fit through the hole anymore after you install the motherboard.

The cabling is all out of the way in the main compartment to allow good airflow, but the back and what's under the power supply shroud look like a disaster. There's reasons I didn't post pictures of those. But with the side panels on, nobody can tell anyways. It's functional I guess.

Part Reviews

CPU Cooler

Great cooler. Can handle the enormous heat output of a 9900k.

Thermal Compound

No complaints.

Motherboard

It's a nice motherboard, but at this price range, it should have included more onboard USB2 headers. I ran out and had to buy an internal USB hub.

Frankly, at this price point, it should have had iGPU support and a PCH chip at this price point, too.

The reason I went with this motherboard is it's the only one in this market segment that has 4-slot spacing between the GPUs, which I felt was essential to getting both GPUs good airflow considering how massive they are.

Storage

The drive is nice and snappy.

Video Card

Works well. This is the most massive video card I have ever laid eyes on.

Case

This is an amazing case. The build quality is superb.

One suggestion would be to have a slightly less cumbersome method to ventilate the top. Right now, it's a little labor-intensive to switch between vented top and solid top panel. Something where you just pop the metal panel on and off seems like it could be just as easy to manufacture.

Also, some of the screws were in awfully tight when it was shipped to me. I get that you don't want it to come loose in transport, but I nearly stripped a bunch of screws trying to undo them.

Power Supply

This power supply is much longer than I thought!

Monitor

Great monitor, but at 4k 144Hz, you have to use 4:2:2 chroma subsampling, which makes text (or anything high contrast, really) look like garbage.

It's really a 98Hz monitor if you want full chroma and HDR. And it's 120Hz if you are willing to give up HDR. As far as I'm concerned this is a 120Hz monitor, because it's just too jarring to look at the subsampled chroma channel.

It's not Asus' fault, though. It's the cabling standard. DisplayPort 1.4 just can't push enough bits to make 144Hz HDR at 4k.

Keyboard

Great keyboard. Nothing left to be desired.

Keyboard

Edit: After using it for a month, I've changed my opinion about the Orbweaver. It's comfortable and very solidly-built. It took a little getting used to, but I'm now quite happy with it. I've been mostly playing simpler games that don't have as many inputs, and for that purpose it's tolerable, but you could never play a complicated game (like World of Warcraft for instance) with this. There just aren't enough buttons. I'm leaving up my original review below:

Original review: This was much less comfortable to use that I thought it would be. What I really wanted was something like the Steel Series Merc Stealth which I used several years ago and I absolutely loved. (https://www.amazon.com/SteelSeries-Merc-Stealth-Gaming-Keyboard/dp/B00292OW1U) It was much more ergonomic. Steel Series no longer makes this, and it's not mechanical either. I don't know what I'm going to do with the Orbweaver. Maybe I can get used to it.

Mouse

I love the short travel distance and clickiness of the left and right buttons. It feels like the mechanical keyboard of mice.

Headphones

I guess these are good? I'm not really much of an audiophile, so I can't really tell. They are comfortable to wear for long periods of time.

Custom

It worked. Did exactly what it claimed to do. I was able to overclock these to 3700MHz, but no further.

Comments

  • 9 months ago
  • 13 points

The dream machine and no RGB. A+

  • 9 months ago
  • 5 points

Yea, I don't really know what the obsession with RGB is all about.

  • 9 months ago
  • 5 points

I don't get it either. I find most of the time it looks tacky and the rest of the time the inside of their PC is brighter then the monitor it's sitting beside. haha

  • 9 months ago
  • 4 points

10k+ and only 5 pictures?

Nah it's actually enough. This is a monster.

  • 7 months ago
  • 1 point

Thank you.

  • 8 months ago
  • 4 points

Sir, I can already see a layer of dust on the components.

  • 8 months ago
  • -2 points

Well, that's life.

  • 8 months ago
  • 1 point

Haha yes

  • 9 months ago
  • 3 points

more pics and maybe a feature

  • 9 months ago
  • 0 points

More pics of what, though? I already have pics of everything.

  • 9 months ago
  • 3 points

most builds that get featured have build as clean as yours and with multiple pics

  • 9 months ago
  • -1 points

What should I take a picture of?

  • 9 months ago
  • 4 points

everything tho

  • 9 months ago
  • -1 points

I did tho.

I took pictures of everything except my cable management on the back. What else is left?

  • 9 months ago
  • 3 points

all those toys inside and you didnt want to show it off. Huh

  • 8 months ago
  • -2 points

Except I'm showing it off here ...

Lighting is a nice look for some builds. For others its tacky.

  • 9 months ago
  • 2 points

Impressive hardware! But the lack of custom cables for some reason saddens me xD

Would love to see some nice clean grey on grey cables! p.s. I know you don't have a window so it's a non-issue, but neither do I and it's knowing you have stock cables that eats away at your soul ;P

  • 9 months ago
  • -1 points

Except nothing like that is remotely true.

  • 9 months ago
  • 6 points

Then I am a sad, shallow man who relies too much on the fickle, materialistic aspects of something that is irrelevant...

  • 9 months ago
  • -1 points

You do you, man. Computers are furniture, and I completely understand the impulse to make them stylish features of your home. I purposefully wanted something that would look understated and not draw attention. Hence the solid side panels. Simple and modern, yes, so I cared a lot about how the outside looks, because I have to look at the outside every day. But the inside? Out of sight, out of mind.

  • 9 months ago
  • 2 points

Having the air filter on the output fans makes no sense. kills airflow and id think blowing dust out is a good thing.

  • 9 months ago
  • 1 point

Thanks for the constructive advice! That's why I posted it here.

I did think about this, but the fans only cover a portion of the top panel. I worry about dust falling in though there or while the computer is off. It may restrict airflow, but I think airflow is not a huge concern in general for this case, at a little bit of restriction doesn't hurt much. I can even run it with the solid top panel and the temps are OK in all but the most demanding applications.

What do you think about that?

  • 9 months ago
  • 1 point

I would say as long as your temps are fine, the top dust filter should remain in place. The minor constriction in air flow (still allowing for good temps) is a small price to pay for a dust free system (which comes with a whole mess of other problems...).

Very nice build indeed! 10k for 4k... doesn't seem right does it?! Would be nice to see some benchmarking results and some idea of the FPS you're getting in which titles etc.

  • 9 months ago
  • 1 point

What benchmark do you want to see?

  • 7 months ago
  • 2 points

Let's talk about what really matters here what do you do for a living? xD jk

  • 7 months ago
  • 2 points

Thank you. I'm a university professor in a STEM field at a school you've never heard of.

It's hard to say when I will need to upgrade. Hardware hasn't been making great year-on-year strides for a while now, but GPUs are still improving 10-15% per year pretty reliably. If that trend continues (and that's a big if) I'll start giving some serious consideration to upgrading in 5-7 years. That may be about when single card GPU performance will eclipse my SLI setup.

  • 7 months ago
  • 1 point

Cool! Do you wake up everyday excited to go to work?

Exactly, I think you'd upgrade in that case.

  • 7 months ago
  • 2 points

Not literally every single day, but on the whole I find it enjoyable.

  • 9 months ago
  • 1 point

This is impressive! Very nicely done. It's subtle yet so powerful

  • 9 months ago
  • 1 point

Thank you! That's what I was going for.

  • 8 months ago
  • 1 point

what are the gpu temperatures?

  • 8 months ago
  • 0 points

80C seems to be the max reported GPU temp for a long benchmarking session.

  • 8 months ago
  • 1 point

thank you so much ;)

  • 7 months ago
  • 1 point

Nice work!

One question, with an SLI build with 2 x 3-slot 2080 Ti triple fan cards in a 7-slot case do you find that the top GPU gets throttled?

Reason I am asking is that I am planning on doing the same layout:

1: top card 2: top card 3: top card 4: empty 5: bottom card 6: bottom card 7: bottom card ~1/2 slot before hitting PSU shroud

  • 7 months ago
  • 1 point

I don't think so. At first, I used the solid top panel, but it got too hot. So I changed to a vented top, and the fan profiles are 100% after ~55 C. GPU temps max out around high 70s C.

I got this motherboard specifically because of the 4-slot GPU spacing, so I'd have some room between the GPUs.

  • 7 months ago
  • 1 point

Wow Congratulations. you don't need to upgrade in 15 years I reckon

  • 7 months ago
  • 1 point

how did you mange to fit an eatx motherboard into an atx case

  • 7 months ago
  • 2 points

Great question! It's a bit of a tight fit, but it does work. I watched this video of these guys doing it here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-cN547iWgjo with a Fractal Design R6 and the MSI Godlike Z370, which is the previous version of my motherboard (but I verified they have the same dimensions).

The motherboard overhangs half of the space where the ATX power supply gromet is. You have to thread all the power cables for the motherboard (both 4-pin CPU power connectors and the 20-pin ATX cable) through the case before installing the motherboard. If you don't, the plastic terminals will not fit through the gap. It just barely fits, but as you can see in my photos, it works.

  • 6 months ago
  • 1 point

thank you for the reply. I did not know if it would have fitted in that case. I still with that budget would have upgrade to a full sized tower case in my opinion. Though it seems like you didn't need to for your case :) you could run into some problems though with the the size of "gpu, wires, power supply, all in one liquid cooler/ liquid cooled system etc" but for right now you dont seem t need that. also i have another question were you able to hit the full 144hz refresh rate of that monitor at 4k

  • 5 months ago
  • 1 point

Yea, I mean, it depends on the game. On recent titles, I can't hit 144Hz at 4k and max settings, but on older games I can. However, the monitor can only do 144Hz with chroma subsampling, which is hot garbage. You're limited to 96Hz with HDR or 120Hz without HDR. Lots of games have engines which are capped at 60Hz, anyways. It's really game-specific

  • 7 months ago
  • 1 point

I like your build!

  • 7 months ago
  • 0 points

TY

  • 6 months ago
  • 1 point

How's that monitor working out for you? Is it satisfactory at 98hz with 4k and HDR on? I'm asking because I'm thinking of buying this monitor or the 34 inch Alienware monitor. I'm not willing to use subsampling and give up that picture quality using this one if I buy it.

  • 5 months ago
  • 2 points

Yea, it's satisfactory.

You're right, though, the chroma subsampling is awful and basically should never be used.

  • 5 months ago
  • 1 point

hey, how bad is the high contrast text on that monitor

  • 5 months ago
  • 1 point

You mean the chroma subsampling?

  • 5 months ago
  • 1 point

yes

  • 5 months ago
  • 2 points

It's awful. Don't use it.

  • 5 months ago
  • 1 point

ah okay, thanks my guy

  • 5 months ago
  • 2 points

Don't get me wrong -- the monitor is great. Just use it at 120Hz/SDR or 96Hz/HDR. It's fantastic at those. But it's just kind of a weird novelty that it can do 144Hz and look like dog **** in the process. Maybe in some FPSs you'd want to, but any text or sharp edges look so bad it's distracting. Displayport 1.4 just doesn't have the bandwidth for it. Maybe in the next version ...

  • 2 months ago
  • 1 point

have you ever heard of noctua chromax? its basically exactly what you have, but black

  • 23 days ago
  • 1 point

I did see that, and it looked nice, but as I recall, it was more expensive. I really decided that I don't care about the aesthetics of the inside of the case.

  • 23 days ago
  • 1 point

Hey mate, fantastic build! Just have a couple of questions if you wouldn't mind, I'm building a PC with very similar components.

  • Is the NVLink bridge you used the 4-slot EVGA one? Could you link it for me?

  • Also on the bridge, how difficult was it to remove the plastic covering? Are you able to put it back on or was it stuck on and it won't stay on if you put it back?

  • Why the H150i AIO instead of Noctua CPU Air Cooler like the NH-D15? You used Noctua fans for the build so I thought you would've wanted to use one of their CPU Coolers as well?

  • Why a 1500W PSU instead of a 1200? In my research for my build I found the build should draw around 1000W so it'd be best to go for a 1200W PSU. Anything I'm missing for why you went for a 1500W one or did you just want to futureproof?

Would really appreciate your help, love the build!

  • 23 days ago
  • 2 points

Yes, I used the 4-slot EVGA NVLink for the better separation and air cooling. (These cards are really like 2.75 slot cards.) I don't have a link, but I think all the 4-slot NVLinks are the same. I bought it in person at a store that doesn't have a website.

This was about a year ago, so I'm going off of memory, but I think I had to undo two screws to take off the plastic cover. No big deal.

I wanted a water cooler. Probably could have worked with air. I threw away the fans that came with the cooler and put Noctua high pressure fans on it.

The PSU was chosen for the number 6-pin and 8-pin connectors, not the wattage. I forgot the exact numbers, but there's an unbelievable number of connectors on the motherboard + 2GPUs. Some of the connectors are optional, but I went for it anyways. 1500W was the lowest wattage PSU from a good brand that had enough.

Hope that helps.

  • 23 days ago
  • 1 point

Okay great! So those slots are the ones I should be putting my X Trio's in then (also using Godlike + 2x Trio Ti's)? I read that some slots on some motherboards are slower than others.

Sweet, so I can put it back on if mine fits :)

Fair enough. Any reason why water? Lots of people seem to think watercooling is unnecessary and useless unless it's custom.

Honestly all the power connectors really confuse me. Would you mind giving me a hand finding a PSU which would work? I've had a look (I'm in Australia) but just ended up getting really confused. Do you know if the AX1200i, HX1200i or the 1600W P2 would work? I would prefer to go with EVGA for my power supply but I'm in Australia so there's limited EVGA options (note most of the PSU's there having no price because they're not sold in Aus).

So if that P2 wouldn't work then it'd be great if you could recommend another PSU to use instead which is available on AU PCPP.

Thanks so much for your help! I'm really new to PC building so I really appreciate it :)

  • 23 days ago
  • 1 point

Watercooling cools more heat faster. Probably doesn't make much of a difference in home PCs. Probably it was unnecessary for me, but look at the rest of the build. Nothing about this is the bare minimum.

Sorry, I'm not going to help you pick out a PSU. The fine folks over at the helpmebuildapc subreddit might, though. I'm just saying that you need to consider the physical connectors as well as the wattage. You need to read the manuals of each part and see what they need and what the PSU provides. You can find PDF copies of the manual online from the manufacturer for most any part more than $100.

  • 8 days ago
  • 1 point

Alright. Thanks for your help so far.

Do you know if this NVLink bridge would work? I'm planning on getting a P600S, do you think the issue you had with the bridge not fitting fully in the case would be with all cases and bridges, or was your case just slimmer than most?

I've had a look and picked out my PSU as the EVGA P2 1200W.

I read online that it was better to use individual cables to power the 2080 Ti's, i.e use two seperate 6+2 8 pin cables per GPU even though each cable comes with two 8-pin connectors on the end, because then the power limit is higher. Is that what you did?

Also, any build advice you can give me? Building with many of the same parts as you, so would love any build advice, particularly with the motherboard/GPU's. :)

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  • 9 months ago
  • -1 points

Yea, 2 sticks per channel.

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  • 9 months ago
  • 0 points

It varies by board. Look at the spec sheet: https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/MEG-Z390-GODLIKE/Specification. You can also just look at the picture of my board where you can see 4 sticks of RAM plugged into the motherboard.

Buildzoid has a nice video explaining in more detail: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3vQwGGbW1AE

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  • 8 months ago
  • 1 point

Don't spam.

  • 8 months ago
  • 1 point

Just wanted to find out, well you know what. Sorry

  • 8 months ago
  • -1 points

Do you just copy and paste this comment everywhere?

  • 8 months ago
  • 4 points

Only on the builds that are related to the topic of my question, think there was six of them. Why? Is that not okay?

  • 8 months ago
  • 0 points

It's fine to send comments to multiple builds, but show that you actually read each one. For instance, I do not have an i7 9700k. You gotta customize your comments and not copy-paste the exact same thing everywhere.

  • 8 months ago
  • 2 points

I'm aware that you don't use that in your build. But there was only one build on this site that had both an i7 9700K and those cards in sli so I reached out to the 9900k guys who were running with those cards in sli aswell eventhough I'm not looking into buying an i9

  • 8 months ago
  • 1 point

To be honest, I did check out the ones that cought my eye

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  • 9 months ago
  • 1 point

I have four 140mm intake fans - 3 on the front, and 1 on the bottom towards the front. I adjusted the fan curves on all the fans so that I have slight positive pressure.

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  • 9 months ago
  • 0 points

The orientation shown in the pictures is the orientation they are in now and the orientation that makes the front fans intake.

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  • 9 months ago
  • 0 points

That's trading off the CPU temp with the internal case air temperature. If I do what you suggest, it would minutely increase my CPU temperatures, no? Thank you for the interesting suggestion. I will think about it. In practice, though, I think it will not make a significant difference either way, and my temps are perfectly fine as is.