Description

This is my new daily driver rig. No overclocks (though the GPU has its power limit pushed to +50 in MSI Afterburner)

There are problems. lots of them.

  1. Random single-frame corruption of video. I don't know if it's the monitor or the GPU, but one of the two is acting up Turns out it's just my browser acting funky. Nothing GPU related.

  2. 15.9Gb/32Gb usable memory. My RAM is deadish. My single stick kits won't boot as single sticks, and over half of it gets "Hardware reserved". Also even if I turn on XMP I cannot reach my target speed (3000Mhz) at all. Corrected with a replacement stick for one that I found out was indeed, dead.

  3. The screen I received, is damaged. There is a loose connection to something that causes a line of green pixels from top to bottom of the left side, but still in the middle of the screen....this is VERY irritating but easy to fix, it only takes a little pressure on that spot from both sides for a few seconds to stop it until it gets bumped wrong. EDIT: Got it to run consistently without the green line, but eeh...I'm afraid to move it.

  4. My $120 USB of windows....was DoA. the install volumes were corrupted and it won;t install. Turns out, all I needed was the Image Builder...didn't even need a new license.

  5. There was GOING to be an optical drive in this rig, but the cage interfered with the Wraith Spire cooler by 2MM! So...can't do that.

  6. One Noctua fan doesn't spin on its own. I have to poke it with a cable tie, and have a box fan running at 2/3rds power to make it actually rotate unless I supply it 100% power...which is...loud. seems to have been just a lack of need for it to spin.

  7. The fan slot next to the PSU is unusable as it'd block the 24pin connector on the PSU end.

CPU: I'm impressed with this little monster of a chip. No need to overclock and I'd say 55C is...immensely colder than expected on just a stock cooler.

Motherboard: Oh how I wish I had gone for a better board...or more so that one existed for AM4. It...really is not that good.

Memory: As it turns out I'm going to have to RMA one to get a new stick as one of the two, is dead. POST RMA: Memory works as advertised now :3

Storage: The HDD is a bog-standard HDD. I don't know the price.

Storage 2Electric-Boogaloo: The SSD is AMAZING. it's sometimes too fast honestly...I got used to getting a drink while things loaded, and now I can't really move before it's already done. Great capacity too, and mostly easy to install.

Video Card: I regret not springing for a VEGA 56, but it takes my old GT 730 4Gb and snaps it like a twig over its knee. Might be slightly faulty? Not faulty at all! just needed some love on fan curves and can definitely pull 1440p 60+FPS in most titles.

Case: I should've heeded the reviews...this case is...awful. Bubbled paint, minimal workspace, no room for cable management, and it's MUCH larger than I thought it'd be. Included dust filters are....mediocre.

Power Supply: It's a power supply. It's massively overkill for what I needed...and it's also a slight bit too long for my case as it interferes with Fan #5's slot. Amendium: a small problem with the way Corsair tunes their fan curves has shown itself. My system does not draw enough power to turn the fan even at 100% maximum load on every part. So I've had a few overheat shutdowns.

Operating System: I....I might actually regret not just going for Linux...

Case Fan#1&#2: It's...painfully loud at 50% or higher RPM, but as an exhaust fan it works okay.

Case Fan#3-#5: These fans are actually fairly quiet until 70% RPM or so...and they NEVER get there thanks to the CPU temps.

Monitor: I regret not buying the Nixeus(???) 144hz monitor of the same size...and I regret not paying for better shipping to hopefully avoid the damage this one arrived with.

Keyboard: Well, it's a mechanical keyboard. It works. I have encountered one weird interaction with Windows as of the start of 2019, but it was easy enough to solve.

Mouse: A surprisingly great mouse! Allll of the battery life any WAY more DPI than I ever really use (outside of the UEFI ;3 ). Battery life update: Literally >3 months of never being turned off finally killed 3 AA batteries.

Headset: AVOID, Corsair wireless headsets. they ALL have popping/crackling issues that haven't been solved, and probably wont be. 2/14/2019: I REPEAT, DO NOT BUY CORSAIR HEADSETS. this thing is internally as durable as a foam cup to even light impacts, and now has all manner of massive issues revolving around the fit and finish of the electronics. Not to mention a battery life that'd make a one-use tazer weep.

Part Reviews

CPU

I'm impressed with this little monster of a chip. No need to overclock and I'd say 55C is...immensely colder than expected on just a stock cooler.

Thermal Compound

It's paste. Quality paste.

A bit too expensive for a SINGLE GRAM, however.

Motherboard

Oh how I wish I had gone for a better board...or more so that one existed for AM4. It...really is not that good.

Memory

It runs and if mine weren't most likely faulty, I'd be happy.

Video Card

This card is just NOT 2018 viable...it'll run older stuff fine, but new games make it sweat and REALLY new games it just cannot handle.

I regret not springing for a VEGA 56, but it takes my old GT 730 4Gb and snaps it like a twig over its knee. Mine might be slightly faulty?

Case

should've heeded the reviews...this case is...awful. Bubbled paint, minimal workspace, no room for cable management, and it's MUCH larger than I thought it'd be.

Power Supply

It's a power supply. It's massively overkill for what I needed...and it's also a slight bit too long for my case as it interferes with Fan #5's slot. Not worth taking a star off for though; That's on the case manufacturer's side.

Operating System

I....I might actually regret not just going for Linux...

Case Fan

It's...painfully loud at 50% or higher RPM, but as an exhaust fan it works okay.

Case Fan

These fans are actually fairly quiet until 70% RPM or so...and they NEVER get there thanks to the CPU temps.

Monitor

I regret not buying the Nixeus(???) 144hz monitor of the same size...and I regret not paying for better shipping to hopefully avoid the damage this one arrived with.

Edit: dropped it to 1 star from 3. It's developed a single bright pixel which is very noticeable, and only appears at ~10% brightness.

Keyboard

Well, it's a mechanical keyboard. It works.

Mouse

A surprisingly great mouse! Allll of the battery life any WAY more DPI than I ever really use (outside of the UEFI ;3 )

Headphones

AVOID, Corsair wireless headsets. they ALL have popping/crackling issues that haven't been solved, and probably wont be.

Custom

This SSD is AMAZING. it's sometimes too fast honestly...I got used to getting a drink while things loaded, and now I can't really move before it's already done. Great capacity too, and mostly easy to install.

Comments

  • 10 months ago
  • 5 points

"...MUCH larger than I thought it'd be... no room for cable management..." lol wut?

I am the first, but surely not the last to cringe at the cable spaghetti fest going on here.

  • 10 months ago
  • 2 points

So I thought this case would be slightly smaller. There is also NO room under the motherboard for my particular cables, the ones that came with the PSU. They're stiff and super-thick sleeved. It also lacks a side panel window of any kind so if the top is closed, I don't see the cables. It makes no difference for airflow, that's been proven, so I won't fuss around with it, mostly because I really can't.

  • 10 months ago
  • 1 point

Funnily enough the Horus case I used to have has better cable management, just took up more vertical space and was prone to being knocked over...

  • 9 months ago
  • 1 point

me to, that is to many wires hanging in/out of the case

  • 10 months ago
  • 2 points

$100 worth of case fans, but cooler is stock 0.o And RX580 should be good for 1440p60. Probably driver issues.

  • 10 months ago
  • 1 point

oddly it's the best SFF cooler for it's size and cost!

  • 10 months ago
  • 1 point

I would return the cooler and the loud overkill PPC fans, and replace with a M9a cooler and a couple QF120 fans. Even better cooler options would be NH-D9L or NH-U9S. Either way, you will have a much quieter and cooler system for roughly the same price.

  • 10 months ago
  • 1 point

Honestly it runs cool enough for me. I'm not overclocking this thing, and the fans basically never get loud with my fan curve :P

And a D9L will NOT fit inside this case. It's very space limited (something the photos may not show off the best)

  • 10 months ago
  • 1 point

There are other builds in this case that use D9L on this website.. And you have low profile RAM so I dont see why it wouldnt work... What made you buy the PPC fans anyway? Those are great for putting on coolers that get really hot from overclocking but as case fans, its just wasting money

  • 10 months ago
  • 1 point

because of how powerful they can get. I have them tied to the GPU temp. If it goes above 60C they're supposed to ramp up to provide more airflow. unfortunately, #5 and the PSU are in conflict as mentioned in the post, reducing possible airflow for that end of the case.

  • 10 months ago
  • 1 point

Oh and I should mention it handles 1440p60FPS in a lot of games just not the ones I have or run. :/

  • 2 months ago
  • 2 points

that GPU should be perfectly fine for modern titles. it trades blows directly with the 1060-6gb card, and that card is still plenty viable for today. i think yours is faulty.

  • 23 days ago
  • 1 point

potentially faulty, yeah

it's also got an atrocious cooler. single-fan is not sufficient

  • 10 months ago
  • 1 point

Shame this PC didn't work out as well as you hoped. I'm working on a Family VR PC with the phanteks shift or shift X and the shift X is just massive.. so i am really worrying if i go with that case that its just going to be not piratical at all for the space i have in mind where i want to put it.

  • 10 months ago
  • 2 points

Measure! Don't be me!

  • 10 months ago
  • 2 points

Gotcha!

  • 10 months ago
  • 1 point

How's the gpu? You seem not to like it

  • 10 months ago
  • -3 points

It's okay. My main issue is that it is pinned at 100% utilization, on a lot of games that it should honestly handle without a sweat. Guess that's the ancient architecture it runs showing it's age.

Do yourself a favor...save longer, buy a Vega.

  • 10 months ago
  • 1 point

I got that same desk lol. It's great easy to clean Windex and bam good as new the PC looks amazing yes spaghetti everywhere, but you can't see it so screw it.

  • 10 months ago
  • 1 point

Ayyyy I was wondering about that actually, good to know it's Windex safe!

And yeah, spaghetti is my life for now.

  • 10 months ago
  • 1 point

Of course it's Windex safe it's glass lol I know that was sarcasm. I still like the PC great build man.

  • 9 months ago
  • 1 point

Can you elaborate any more on the motherboard and what you didn't like about it? I'm looking at sub $200 x470 boards and yours is on my list as a contender.

  • 9 months ago
  • 1 point

So it may have just been a bad board after all, but basically, 3/4 DRAM slots were 50% dead, only detecting in the BIOS before being Hardware Reserved in windows (thus not working period.)

its BIOS may need to be flashed (via the @BIOS utility by Gigabyte) to version F3. I had to replace mine due to some...internal damage caused by physical trauma that broke the PCI-E slots' connections to the BIOS ^; It IS an okay board, but you are getting what you pay for....plus RGB I saw mentioned nowhere, but hey, it works and can be set to the colors I like :P

Oh, you may want to order a backup CMOS battery, the first board I had reset the CMOS each boot because it wouldn't charge and was 100% dead. Swapped with one from an old board and it stopped doing that. not sure if you'll need it, but I'd keep it in mind.

  • 9 months ago
  • 1 point

Thanks a lot for the information. I guess I'm going to keep it on the shortlist and see what pops on sale in the next few weeks. Good info about the CMOS battery too, that would have bugged me out.

Thanks again for the response.

  • 8 months ago
  • 1 point

GPU is too slow for your CPU. Probably bottlenecking 40% of the time

  • 8 months ago
  • 1 point

You could've...I dunno...asked if maybe it was in fact bottlenecking? Because shocker: it's not.

that said, the GPU really is awful and I regret buying it.

  • 8 months ago
  • 1 point

..why didnt you return it then

  • 8 months ago
  • 0 points

because I couldn't afford the next step up and I'm very much against going for a "similar" GPU from Nvidia. Y'know...with half the VRAM and 60% of the power.

I regret it more due to the fact that it's a single-fan card It's loud, and hot, at all times. This is not normal for AMD anymore, it's just a quirk of this card

  • 6 months ago
  • 1 point

There are so many problems with this build. Why use a 1440P monitor with a GPU that's really meant for 1080P? The card can perform just fine with modern titles, the fact that you're pushing 1440P on it is the reason why it's pegged at 100% most of the time. The cooling solution on the card is lackluster coupled with the messy cable management resulting in limited airflow is also why it performed terribly, it was most likely throttling itself which could've easily been mitigated to a certain degree with an undervolt and an OC to squeeze more performance out of it. Another issue is the thermal paste. Why buy a tube of thermal paste if the cooler that comes with the 1700 has thermal paste pre-applied? 32GB of RAM is also complete overkill and a waste of money but at least it was in dual-channel. Gigabyte is terrible with mobos nowadays, MSI and ASRock run laps around them in most areas.

  • 6 months ago
  • 0 points

Bruh Chill

most of the problems I've listed here, I've found not worth bothering with, or were easily fixed. The card cools just fine, and in fact, I've rarely seen it spike over 50% fan speed unless trying to run say...War Thunder at movie-quality settings. The lack of cable management, literally has no effect and I can list at least 3 video experiments with worse setups than mine that cool just as well. And the paste I got wasn't actually pre applied, weirdly enough. I don't bother with overclocks. I'm not looking to break records and I couldn't care less if I see >60FPS :/ 1440p also works 100% fine, even in harder-to-run titles. I do art and I run memory-hog games sometimes. 32Gb was nowhere near overkill. I will agree on the motherboard bit. Never buying Gigascam again.

  • 5 months ago
  • 1 point

What do you not like about the mobo?

  • 5 months ago
  • 1 point

the BIOS/UEFI is archaic, if a bit more advanced than most

and also Gigabyte's software doesn't work anymore

in addition to the fact that the first was DoA.

  • 5 months ago
  • 1 point

Ok, thanks. It's weird how people seem to love this board here on PCPartPicker, but if you go to amazon or any other place with ratings (I was too stupid to go anywhere else to check ratings) they are extremely bad.

  • 3 months ago
  • 1 point

Amazon clumps similar item reviews together, don't trust it

  • 3 months ago
  • 1 point

I know I'm late but what was your fan curve. I have the same gpu and I hate it but i don't know what to do with the fan curves and stuff. It Is loud and annoying so If it would be possible to talk then you can message me on discord. lilpumpsicle#1990

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  • 10 months ago
  • 1 point

I'm sorry, really. I'd've done something about it if I could.

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