Description

First of all, a little bit about myself: I'm 15 years old and from Germany (so please excuse any errors I'm going to make). Since I got my first laptop in 2013, I started to become obsessed with computers and technology, before that, I didn't know anything, didn't know what an OS is and that GPUs are different in performance (if you wanna have a laugh, here's the first ever part list I made: https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/wjCQnQ). So, since my i5 3337U and Intel HD4000 laptop wasn't serving my gaming desires and general speed expectations anymore (seriously, 5 minutes boot time?!?), I started delivering newspapers back in summer 2016. I used the money I got doing this as well as most of my savings to buy myself this machine. I don't want any of you thinking that this is my parents' money (they supported me with 40 euros) or I got it for free from relatives or so. I worked hard in order to achieve this dream of mine - and I'm damn happy on how it turned out. Alright, enough talking, let's get to business!

Here's to the additional part reviews:

Monitor 2 (Acer): Bought this quite some time ago, has some ghosting, but for watching a video or reading a manual on it as a secondary device is fully ok. It's also 24" on 1920x1080 with 60 Hz and no FreeSync.

Cable extension: When I have a tempered glass side panel, I wanna see something nice in the case. These cables do that excellently.

Keyboard: Something I bought on holidays in Sinagpore. It's from a Sinagporean company and feels very good in quality as well as typing. The switches are Kalih blue (which are obviously a rip-off of Cherry MX blues) and they have a nice feedback and clicky sound to them, I can't say they're worse than Cherry MX blues, but also not better. The backlighting is "semi-RGB" with every row having a different color. It looks great.

Case: I couldn't justify spending 100+ on a case so I looked around and found this. The full tempered glass side panel looks great and gives an amazing view on the inside. The PSU and drives are hidden under a shroud and the SSD is screwed to the back. Cable management was easy and there's quite a few cutouts. One thing that disappointed me is the front panel: 1 of the 2 USB 2.0 plugs shipped broken and one of the two 3.0 plugs doesn't recognize anything either. That's bad QC for me. The 3 pre-installed 140mm fans are quiet and provide sufficient airflow, but are so tightly screwed in, I wrecked two screws in the process of bringing them from the front to the top... I guess you get what you pay for and I'm still satisfied with what this case offers.

Phew, quite a wall of text here... So, what will I be using this machine for? Schoolwork (that's what I tell my parents), gaming (mostly, benchmarks/fps will follow, for now: GTA V Ultra, FHD: always over 60 FPS; CSGO, FHD, everything max: never under 150 FPS), programming (I wanna get into that) and normal surfing needs.

So, are the parts balanced? No, the CPU and RAM are an insane overkill, not even getting to 50% utilisation... I'll have to get into content creation to use these parts to their full potential...

Am I happy? Yes, I feel really good to have accomplished this by working hard and believing in myself.

Was it hard to do? Nope, even easier than expected.

TL,DR: I built a PC that's super-unbalanced but fast as hell and will hold up for years to come.

Edit 1: DiRT 3, everything on maximum setting, 1920x1080: constant 74/75 FPS (capped there) Just Cause 2: same as DiRT 3: never under 60 FPS

Part Reviews

CPU

I originally planned to get an FX-8350 or i5 6600K, however, I heard the RYZEN rumours and held out till launch and then pulled the trigger on the 1700X. It may have been a "slight" overkill... It's a beast, it runs at 1-5% utilisation whilst typing this... (my i5 couldn't even do this lag-free) . Now this is amazing, offers more than I need and oc'd to 3.95 GHz easily.

CPU Cooler

I wanted to get a liquid cooler from the start, so I had my eyes on the Arctic Freezer 240 for a long time, however, it's enormous size wouldn't have fit in the case I basically settled on already (see below). After waiting OVER 1 MONTH for the AM4 bracket to ship, I finally got it on the 5th, till then I used an old FX-8350 stock cooler a friend had laying around (idle temps were the now-maximum...). It's quiet, looks good and cools that CPU very well.

Motherboard

Another such thing; I got the CPU right March 2nd, the mobo however... different story... it arrived on april 1st. Other than that it's great, looks amazing, works flawlessly (even the RAM runs at 2933 with F3b BIOS) and it of course has a ton of RGB lighting - what else...

Memory

Overkill. Definitely. But it looks great and works as desired. I basically wanted to get 32GB and then got the cheapest, bes't looking one (which was this, which, btw, is now 40 euros more expensive).

Storage

I definitely wanted to get a SSD for the sake of speed, I had my eyes on the 850 EVO for a long time, but the recent skyrocketing of NAND made me buy this over the EVO. Nonetheless a great and fast SSD and surely a huge step-up from my 5400 RPM HDD.

Storage

cheap, 1TB, relatively fast, reliable, quiet... what more do I want?

Video Card

Originally planned on the 390(X) but this card is cheaper and better, so why not get it? Works out perfectly for me, can play every game I throw at it on High/Ultra on the 75 FPS my monitor appreciates. It's also fully silent when idling and still relatively quiet on 100% fans. And it's cooled very well by the three fans.

Power Supply

Why 750W? I don't know, maybe to add a CF card in the future... It's modularity is obviously great and SeaSonic is reliable. Also, it's quiet.

Operating System

I honestly didn't expect this 7 bucks OEM key off Amazon to work, but it did, no telephone activation required... Never gonna pay more than 20 bucks for Windows in the future!

Wireless Network Adapter

I wanted something to connect to router upstairs, as the powerline LAN-connection is under 1 MB/s while WIFI is at around 20. It's bluetooth 4.2 connectivity is definitely a plus as well.

Monitor

Great 24" 1920x1080 monitor with FreeSync and a 75 Hz refresh rate. It was on sale for 20 euros off sometime before christmas, so I bought it early and saved some money.

External Storage

Got it on sale, is fast, doesn't vibrate and the 1TB was actually 10 euros cheaper than my WD blue...

Custom

It just works. And it's cheap.

Custom

I obviously need RGB in here, so I bought these. They are magnetic and therefore attach to the case with ease, the cables are long enough to be hidden and power is received vie SATA. They are very bright when on max brightness and have very nice colours, especially a surprisingly clear white.

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Comments

  • 38 months ago
  • 4 points

Cool build my dude. On another note, your English was pretty much flawless.

  • 38 months ago
  • 2 points

Thank you! I really appreciate it.

  • 38 months ago
  • 2 points

Also, did you get your stuff used? Or does Germany not make electronics super expensive?

  • 38 months ago
  • 2 points

Everything I bought was new (apart from the old FX-8350 cooler, of course). In my opinion, electronics are quite expensive in Germany, for example I have to pay a 19% VAT for every single item and another I-don't-know-how-many-percent tax for something else, that stuff adds up...

  • 38 months ago
  • 1 point

I just bought most of these on a sale or with a rebate as well as from lesser-known chinese brands, which made it not too expensive

  • 37 months ago
  • 3 points

It sucks that you guys get screwed on prices over there.

  • 37 months ago
  • 2 points

Nice build! How is that rx480 holding up? Im planning on buying it for a budget build because im actually playing games on integrated graphics 4000 with a i3 processor ._. poor laptop gets 10 fps on gta v with shadows completely disabled. Is there any games the 480 cant handle in 1080p 60fps on ultra/high settings?

  • 37 months ago
  • 1 point

It's holding up great! I got it to 1400 MHz with no problem too! With the games I play (and there's quite a few AAA titles in there) it crushes everything on 1080p on Ultra/High. GTA V runs with 25 FPS on 800x600 with everything on the minimum on my Laptop (also HD4000 but an i5) but flawless with a constant 75 FPS on the RX 480. If any games don't make it to 60 FPS I'll tell you...

  • 37 months ago
  • 1 point

But if you're doing a budget build get an RX 570 (quite a bit cheaper and still excellent on 1080p) or RX 580 (a tad cheaper and higher clocks than the RX 480)

  • 37 months ago
  • 1 point

Yep, My question was before the rx580 came out and that is what I plan to buy now... unless vega comes out before june.

  • 37 months ago
  • 1 point

Yep. Definitely get the RX580 over the 480, but I don't think VEGA will be a "budget" card and also an insane overkill for 1080p

  • 37 months ago
  • 1 point

I can always hope, and seeing AMD's past pricing, it may be affordable. but no one knows

  • 37 months ago
  • 2 points

Nice build, I have a theoretical build that uses the same CPU and motherboard and I wanted to ask about the RAM. Did you get to 2933MHz with a default XMP profile or did you have to set the timings yourself?

  • 37 months ago
  • 1 point

Thanks. I set the RAM to 2933 MHz after activating the XMP profile and it seems to work only at times, however, that's with the F2 BIOS and I don't have access to my Computer for another two weeks (I'm away) so I haven't done any testing with the F3 BIOS, but that is said to fix quite a bunch of errors...

  • 36 months ago
  • 2 points

cool build but those ugly *** fans.WHY TELL ME WHYYYYYY

  • 36 months ago
  • 1 point

Simple: no money and came with the case... as soon as I get like 50 bucks or so, I'll replace them with 3 RGB fans like the TT Riing 14s.

  • 36 months ago
  • 3 points

And you were supposed to peel off that sticker.BTW get the riings, my cousin has them and they're silent, efficient and have a very reasonable price tag

  • 36 months ago
  • 1 point

What sticker, on the fan over the "AORUS" branding or on the GPU? Or both? Thanks for your help man, this is all basically newland for me... I bought one Riing 12 as a pull for the H100iV2 (I have yet to update the pics, just installed it today) and am also very satisfied with it, it's super quiet and looks amazing, and as you said, the price is very reasonable

  • 36 months ago
  • 1 point

oh nevermind, you meant the one on the case... I left it on because I think it looks kinda cool, but I might remove it...

  • 36 months ago
  • 2 points

If this computer thing is new for you then you my friend are going through it like a champ.WELCOME TO THE ELITE PC MASTER RACE!

  • 36 months ago
  • 2 points

What was the toughest part of the entire build for you?

  • 36 months ago
  • 1 point

Pheww, tough question... Before everything arrived, the toughest thing was waiting since ~october 2016, getting CPU and some other components march 2nd and finally getting the mainboard april 1st... during building, I'd say the toughest part was to get everything running smoothly (though, I have to say that thinking a molex to Floppy adapter is a molex (my case fans get poer via molex or a 3-pin)to PWM adapter is rather stupid...) Oh, abnd what was probably toughest, was to mount the radiator with the fans in the front (but that may be case-related), it took me at least 45 minutes even with help...

  • 36 months ago
  • 2 points

Yes, I was going to say, that liquid cooling system configuration looked a bit cramped in the front. Was trying to figure out how you managed to get it in there. You'd think the motherboard could drive all the fans in parallel from a wiring harness so you didn't need to use the floppy 3 to 4 pin conversion. Connect via the motherboard header by the name of "CASE FAN".

Yeah, the waiting is a killer, that's for sure!

Thanks for replying to me.

  • 36 months ago
  • 1 point

Thanks for commenting too, first of all... regarding the AiO, it has about 2mm of space on the lower half and I now put a TT Riing 12 on the upper half, it took me ages to carefully position it with the fans in front and then basically cross-screw it on... regarding the fans, I might have described that badly; what I meant to say is that all 3 case fans came with a y-cable for power that has both a 3-pin and a molex (passthrough), right now, they are all connected to the molex behind the motherboard tray and therefore hidden, what I meant to say with the floppy adapter is, that I thought this molex to what seemed to me like 4-pin pwm adapter (actually really dumb when thinking about it now...) was actually a molex (female) to floppy (female) adapter, and stupid me thought it'd be a good idea to connect that to the motherboard... But I have no doubt that my motherboard would be able to drive these fans in parallel nonetheless, it's just more hidden behind the tray and since they aren't controllable in rpm anyways... I'll add some pictures of that tomorrow for easier understanding...

  • 36 months ago
  • 2 points

Oh, geez, that spacing is really tight. I'm really surprised you got it put together, even with help. Yeah, I understand the molex pass-through, now that you've explained that one further. Case fans on the motherboard usually get set to one of four settings; Off, Low, Medium or High, most mobos aren't that far along enough for case fan control technology, only CPU and GP-GPU related. Although, they should put fans or active cooling on the VRAM since it's operating at a really high speed and it sucks when you get texture corruption when they get too hot.

  • 36 months ago
  • 1 point

It is! That's also why I physically couldn't go with an Arctic freezer 240, even if I only mount one side of the fans, but I'm happy now, so that's that... well, in regard to the case fans, would I be able to control their speed via Voltage regulation if I connect them to the MB or am I better off leaving them on the molex (which is constant 12V, right?) running at full speed, since they aren't loud anyway... I'm wondering because while most of the tech on this MB is still in child's shoes, the fan control software is really well optimized and well designed... Now, I apologize if I misunderstood You at the VRAM part, but I don't get it, You mean the ram on the gpu, right? not the "normal" ram? Because the GPU's RAM is passively cooled while not heavily utilized and gets active cooling as soon as it gets under load, as far as I'm concerned, but please prove me wrong! But admittedly, I did notice said texture corruption when stressing my iGPU on my Laptop, which has terrible cooling...

  • 35 months ago
  • 2 points

How is the board faring? This board or the ASRock Taichi, look to be the most stable ones, in my price point. Ive looked a newegg, some people say this board is broken, how is it for you?

  • 35 months ago
  • 1 point

It's doing great for me, especially with the latest F4 Bios as my Ram now runs at 3000 MHz without any problems. One thing I would like to tell you is, that you might wanna go for the Gaming-5 unless you REALLY need that clock generator on the K-7, but since Ryzen doesn't OC that well (and I hit 4GHz stable without using the clockgen), I would recommend you to safe yourself some caash, as the boards are equal apart from that clock generator.

  • 35 months ago
  • 1 point

I've decided on the Taichi, it has the features I Need! Thanks for your reply tho

  • 35 months ago
  • 2 points

No worries, enjoy your board! I believe all X370 boards are a great choice anyways and don't differ much in reliability and functionality anyways...

  • 33 months ago
  • 2 points

Don't mean to be rude but it's not overkill

  • 33 months ago
  • 1 point

It's not overkill from what could be done (Threadripper 1950X and 1080ti in SLI) but it's overkill for what I do with it (at least CPU and RAM, GPU is just fine)...

  • 32 months ago
  • 2 points

You said that you are using the pc in the floor below the router? How good is the wifi connection with that wireless adapter?

  • 32 months ago
  • 2 points

Surprisingly good, when I use the 5GHz network it's two bars in windows 10 (but equally as fast and same ping as using my laptop right next to the router), the 2.4GHz network is between 3 and 4 bars all the time (speedwise the same as the 5GHz with higher ping).

  • 32 months ago
  • 2 points

Hey man, first of you English was pretty much spot on. But I also wanted to say that the PC looks the only thing that I might suggest is maybe a new GPU, but that's about it

  • 26 months ago
  • 2 points

Cool build how much in us dollars

  • 26 months ago
  • 1 point

Thanks :D

The total setup with monitors and headset and stuff is around 2700$ (by now about 3000$, I bought some more stuff not listed here),

Only the PC itself was around 2200$, though it would definitely be cheaper to build the same rig right now.

  • 18 months ago
  • 1 point

it says your total is $0.00... logic

  • 17 months ago
  • 1 point

I love the tempered glass sticker the most ;)