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I originally assembled this computer about a month ago with two GTX 670 FTW+ video cards, but discovered they don't provide the best video rendering power, and SLI doesn't make a difference at all in Sony Vegas 12. In fact, they were only marginally faster at rendering than using the CPU alone, so I returned them. I am now going to try a few different video cards. If you have recommendations that would be helpful.

I also discovered that RAID-0 isn't as cut and dry as one would expect.

Running two SSD's in RAID-0 using the SATA 3 ports on the motherboard provided the best performance. Running 4 SSD's using the SATA 2 ports on the motherboard was about a 25% performance hit even with twice as many drives - that surprised me. Finally, using an LSI Logic HBA RAID card was the WORST in terms of performance, even though it was a SATA 3 card designed for RAID. (I returned that and will be trying an Areca HBA next)

The Velociraptor provides about twice the speed as a regular WD Black HDD, so that is nice.

Here is a complete gallery, which includes my old PC (which my wife was using), her new machine, and this one with before/after pics with the GTX's and RAID HBA.

http://imgur.com/a/ICEiM#0

Finally, I paid nowhere near the prices PCPP has listed. I got the CPU for $169, for example, and tried to pick up everything on sale using CamelCamelCamel alerts.

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  • 76 months ago
  • 4 points

If you are going to go with a video card, go with the 780. Performs about the same as a Titan. Great build though!

  • 76 months ago
  • 3 points

or the GTX770. ASUS has the DC II out already at $410. Faster than the 680, and for less at the moment.

  • 76 months ago
  • -1 points

770 is really just meh. Same GK104 chip that the 680 uses. Same some bucks and get the GTX 680 when/if it comes down in price.

:)

  • 76 months ago
  • 3 points

770 is out performing the 680 right now for $410. Unless the 680 drops under $350, the 770 is still the better deal.

  • 76 months ago
  • 3 points

Lovin' the sata cable management

  • 76 months ago
  • 2 points

Thanks! Lots of zip ties ...

  • 76 months ago
  • 2 points

A GTX 680 is the way to go if you want a really good editing build, or you can check this website for whatever is best? http://graphics-cards-review.toptenreviews.com/

  • 76 months ago
  • 1 point

I totally bookmarked that site, THANK YOU!

  • 76 months ago
  • 2 points

Wow

  • 76 months ago
  • 1 point

That cable management is sexy.

  • 76 months ago
  • 6 points

Don't tell my wife. Haha

  • 76 months ago
  • 1 point

If speed is really important, don't look at a HBA, look at a real raid card. Areca makes good ones; which model were you looking at?

  • 76 months ago
  • 1 point

You're right, I wish I had known that to begin with. After a lot of Googling, I came up with this:

http://www.amazon.com/Areca-1213-4i-port-internal-controller/dp/B006U5XH8G/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_S_nC?ie=UTF8&colid=3BY1PVUB1SOA1&coliid=I1OPCOJK3IB38P

What do you think?

I'm running RAID-0 for performance. I have an external server which does daily backups so safety isn't a worry.

  • 76 months ago
  • 1 point

I've no personal experience with that one, but the stats look good, although you are maxed at 4 drives. You'll probably need the breakout cable ($20ish).

Consider a UPS for your computer if you plan on utilizing the on-board cache. You may have your data backed up, but it would be annoying to have to re-install your OS just because the power went out.

Alternatively you could get the on-board battery. it keeps the data stored in the controller cache on life support until the system comes back on. http://www.arecadirect.com/arc6126120113.html

Then again, with the speed of the SSD's, maybe the cache isn't important anyway.

  • 76 months ago
  • 1 point

Yeah, I used the SAS/SATA cable before, that was easy.

I have a nice UPS already, it's listed in the build. :) However, that on-board battery is interesting. I will bookmark that, thanks!

  • 76 months ago
  • 1 point

Be picky if you're picking an onboard battery. If it's one that has a tendency to get hot/overheat, you'll need to add a fan to it, and a fan that small as the potential to be annoying.

  • 76 months ago
  • 1 point

FYI, you could safely put the USB 3.0 card into the bottom 16x slot. It won't affect the performance of the other slots, and it might make the cabling look a bit cleaner.

  • 76 months ago
  • 1 point

You're right, that is actually where I had it to start with. Once I decide on what video card(s) to use, that will likely move down to the bottom again.

  • 76 months ago
  • 1 point

Amazing cable management!

  • 76 months ago
  • 1 point

Thank you!

  • 76 months ago
  • 1 point

You have definitely set the new Gold Standard in cable management! Very well done.

Do you have additional external storage? That seems like some heavy duty video rendering power to only have 500 GB of storage in the case. I sort of expected to see at least a couple of terabytes of HDD in there.

I really like the FD R4 case. That's a good choice. I almost used that one but after a lot of hand-wringing, went for the Nanoxia DS-1.

Which RAID mode are you using / looking for? Is this multiple RAID 0/1 or single RAID 3/4/5? (I assume you are going for speed rather than error tolerance since you started with RAID 0.)

  • 76 months ago
  • 1 point

Thanks, it was pretty easy, although I did remove a few SATA power connectors to clean things up.

I do have external storage, 2TB on a separate server. I don't keep much on the local machine, and when I am done I move it to the server.

I am please with the R4 case, in fact I got a second one to build my wife's machine.

I'm running RAID-0 on the SSDs just for performance. I hate slow machines, and this setup is great - I cannot explain how fast everything works, but I love it.

For safety, I have an external server which does daily backups of all my PCs, so safety isn't a big deal in that regard.

  • 76 months ago
  • 1 point

Both of the builds you posted recently are so well planned and executed... +1

  • 76 months ago
  • 1 point

Thank you sir!

  • 76 months ago
  • 1 point

To be honest, if the 670's were only marginally faster than just the CPU in rendering, then it sounds to me like the only thing that would really make it any faster is overclocking the CPU. I don't know a whole lot about video editing though.

  • 76 months ago
  • 1 point

I am going to play around with OC'ing the CPU, that's for sure, but I'm also going to buy a few different video cards and compare which is faster. I already have a spreadsheet with my current results. I figure I will post them up online somewhere when I am done because no one has any benchmarks for video rendering.

  • 76 months ago
  • 1 point

lol Nice way to compare. In your final build you should include a pic of the completed spreadsheet to assist others who may want to do an editing build.

  • 76 months ago
  • 1 point

For Sony Vegas I would get a radeon card like a 7970, I tried using CUDA with my 660 ti in Vegas and it will stop rendering and give me a random error.

  • 76 months ago
  • 1 point

How long does it take to render a 2 minute clip on your machine?

For me, rendering Sony AVC/MVC - Internet 1920x1080-30p took 2:09 to complete. Sony AVC/MVC AVCHD 1440x1080-60i took 1:46 to complete.

  • 76 months ago
  • 0 points

Sony AVC/MVC - Internet 1920x1080-30p took 2:20 to complete. Sony AVC/MVC AVCHD 1440x1080-60i took 1:38. My machine is a 3570k at 4.6ghz and 8gb of 1866mhz RAM, I'm rendering with CPU only and no quicksync.

  • 76 months ago
  • 1 point

Can you re-render using GPU so I can compare the video card performance? Or is that what you meant to say?

  • 76 months ago
  • 0 points

The render stops abuot half way through for me every time I use the GPU.

  • 76 months ago
  • 1 point

That's unusual, but thank you for giving it a try.

  • 76 months ago
  • 1 point

For video editing, if you're in the market for a 6xx card, dont get anything over 660ti. They're all the same performance in terms of cuda and compute from there on. Your real jump from 6xx --> 7xx is the 780 and/or titan. Otherwise don't get anything else because interms of compute, you will not benefit.

  • 75 months ago
  • 1 point

Case, beautiful Cable managerment, flawless Build, perfect

Good job, looks great.

  • 74 months ago
  • 1 point

Mai God, dat cable management!

  • 73 months ago
  • 1 point

Holy ****, that cable management... +1

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