Description

Perfect Dark

Same specs. New case. Before: Fractal Design Core 500. Now: Fractal Design Meshify C Mini Dark. Thermal comparison between the two cases below. Overall average CPU temperature dropped 8°C. Overall average GPU temperature went up 2°C.

Notes

The CPU is de-lidded with a copper IHS swap—Thermal Grizzly Conductonaut in between the IHS and CPU—with a stable 5.0GHz OC @ 1.35v, no AVX offset. The temperature drop at stock speeds under max load from delidding + copper IHS + LM = 20°C.
The GPU is OC'd @ 2038MHz, memory clock @ 12312MHz. The stock tim on the GPU has also been replaced with LM. It dropped the temps 8°C. Also the stock shroud and fans were removed and replaced with Noctua NF-A12x15 fans, which also dropped the temps by an addt'l 8°C.

Part List

System
Part Item Price
CPU Intel Core i7-8700K 3.7GHz 6-Core Processor $339.99
CPU Cooler Noctua NH-D15 82.5 CFM CPU Cooler $94.95
Motherboard Asus ROG Strix Z370-I Gaming Mini ITX LGA1151 Motherboard $189.99
Memory G.Skill Trident Z 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory $214.99
Storage Samsung 970 Evo 500GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive $169.99
Western Digital Blue 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive $134.99
Video Card(s) MSI GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11 GB GAMING X Video Card $650.00
Power Supply SeaSonic FOCUS Plus Gold 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply $88.19
Case Fan(s) Noctua NF-A12x15 PWM 55.44 CFM 120mm Fan x3 $59.85
Noctua NF-A12x25 PWM 60.1 CFM 120mm Fan x3 $89.70
Noctua NF-A14 PWM 82.5 CFM 140mm Fan $21.95
Noctua NF-F12 PWM 54.97 CFM 120mm Fan $19.50
Total $2,074.09
Other
Part Item Price
Thermal Compound Thermal Grizzly Conductonaut 1g Thermal Paste $18.95
Case Fractal Design Meshify C Mini Dark $87.29
Fan Controller SilverStone PWM Fan Hub $14.88
Cables CableMod ModFlex Right Angle SATA 3 Cable 60cm $12.90
CableMod B​asic ModFl​ex Cable E​xtension K​it - Dual ​6+2 Pin Se​ries (Blac​k) $48.87
Other upHere High quality PC cable combs $6.59
FSLabs Graphics Card GPU Brace Support $13.99
AURA SYNC LED Light Strip $21.08
ROCKIT 88 - LGA 1151/1150 Delid & Relid kit $39.95
Copper IHS for LGA 1151 $19.99
Total $284.49
Grand Total $2,358.58
Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts

Performance

CPU Temperature (OC)
Case Idle Gaming Load
Fractal Design Meshify C Mini Dark 35°C 59°C 67°C
Fractal Design Core 500 41°C 70°C 76°C
GPU Temperature (OC)
Case Idle Gaming Load
Fractal Design Meshify C Mini Dark 36°C 64°C 73°C
Fractal Design Core 500 37°C 62°C 68°C
Temperatures recorded with an ambient room temperature of 24°C

Benchmarks

CrystalDiskMark
Measurement ReadMB/s WriteMB/s
Seq Q32T1 3484.5 2479.0
4KiB Q8T8 1045.9 1903.5
4KiB Q32T1 610.2 360.0
4KiB Q1T1 45.70 173.4
Cinebench
Release Score
R15 1630cb
R20 3963cb
3DMark
Benchmark Overall Score Graphics Score CPU Score Physics Score Combined Score
Fire Strike 25212 31629 21658 11081
Time Spy 10466 10801 8903
PerformanceTest
Benchmark Score Average
Passmark Rating 8,470
CPU Mark 18,319 +14.8%
2D Graphics Mark 1,267
3D Graphics Mark 19,223 +35.5%
Memory Mark 3,796
Disk Mark 17,719 -10.6%
UserBenchmark
Benchmark Info Score Average
Gaming 144%
Desktop 152%
Workstation 139%
Processor Intel Core i7-8700K 123.1% +15.1%
Graphics Card Nvidia GTX 1080 Ti 171.3% +21.3%
Drives Samsung 970 Evo NVMe PCIe M.2 500GB 286.3% +15.3%
WD Blue 3D 500GB
Memory Kit G.SKILL Trident Z DDR4 3600 C16 2x8GB 107.7% +7.7%

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Comments

  • 8 months ago
  • 5 points

Well someone clearly hates Noctua and their product line.

  • 8 months ago
  • 3 points

You got me. I'm a shill for Noctua.

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  • 8 months ago
  • 4 points

I thought that formatting looked familiar. You are clearly not afraid of the brown, and instead embrace it.

Also, I didn't even notice the fans on the GPU at first until I saw another comment that mentioned it.

  • 8 months ago
  • 2 points

Thanks! The case was a last minute idea. If I had planned for it, I would've gotten all black chromax fans. But what's done is done. I'm not a fan of long descriptions. I don't want to read OP's life story. But I like looking at numbers and statistics. That's how I picked the case. Researched cases with best thermals. Criteria: Under $100, can fit an NH-D15, black.

  • 8 months ago
  • 1 point

I used the same case for my Mother's PC / Home PC build. I also liked the potential airflow it offered, and I wanted to personally do an mATX build.. Actually, I think I mentioned this stuff the last time I posted on your submission.

I don't have much to show about my setup, but I did clean it recently this past november. I've made some further additions after what I put there, but haven't taken new images. https://imgur.com/a/F0IYQsH

  • 8 months ago
  • 1 point

Wow. How many years of dust build up is that? And I saw your Mother's PC. Very nice photos. I like that Cooler Master LED strip. I don't like mine particularly, it's too long, but it's hidden at the top, just wanted some ambient lighting, nothing special, it's nice seeing the components inside, makes it easier to see if there are any obvious issues, never wanted to go the tempered glass window route but I actually like it now.

  • 8 months ago
  • 1 point

That's about a year's worth. I have a dog that I share my room with, and a ceiling Fan that helps spread that all around. I don't generally dust often until there is an excuse like "well I may as well do it since I'm moving everything from this area anyway". But I do this desktop space cleaning at least once near the end of the year.

I do like seeing the internals, I tend to just start at my GPU sometimes when I'm playing Elder Scrolls Online, or another casual-ish game, knowing my system is doing all kinds of work so I can entertain myself.

  • 8 months ago
  • 1 point

Interesting. Maybe if I stop working on this computer it will eventually accumulate dust. My setup, the window faces away from me, and I couldn't put the PC in its original spot where a mini ITX case sat, not enough space. Now it sits on a drawer unit instead of the desk, but anyone who walks in can get a view.

Yeah, I added the LED strip at the last minute because I kept looking inside the case with a flashlight.

  • 8 months ago
  • 3 points

Honey, I’ve found the cleanest build on PCPP!

  • 8 months ago
  • 1 point

Define clean. IMO this is clean: Updated RTX Build. Lol. Thank you! But seriously though, I think that guys setup is clean af. I think what makes my PC look clean is the fact it's a mini itx mobo hidden behind a thiccboi NH-D15 and MSI Gaming X 1080 Ti vga cooler. So all you see are those, the sleeved cable extensions and nothing else.

  • 8 months ago
  • 1 point

I meant the PC itself. Not the whole setup. Sorry.

  • 8 months ago
  • 1 point

Lol, I figured. Although when I put the PC under lights to take photos I noticed fingerprints and dust and small random debris I had to dust off. Camera picks it up easily. Otherwise I wouldn't have noticed it.

  • 8 months ago
  • 2 points

was it hard to swap the GPU fans for the slim noctuas?

  • 8 months ago
  • 3 points

I'm gonna take a stab and say he has used an aftermarket cooler Antek accelero I believe though I could be wrong. All hail Noctua!

  • 8 months ago
  • 1 point

It's the original cooler. I had the Raijintek Morpheus II Superior VGA Cooler, but I sold it. Bought it when I had the Fractal Design Core 500 case, but the cooler didn't fit, case too small. Didn't anticipate getting a new case this year otherwise I would've kept it. Still could buy it again, but my GPU temps rarely exceed 70°C, even on an overclocked 1080 Ti, so I'm satisfied with that.

  • 8 months ago
  • 1 point

No, it's very easy on this particular video card. Can't speak for other cards. The fans are stuck to the VGA cooler by small pieces of command strips in the center and a GPU brace helps support them. Normally you would use zip ties, but this works just as well.

  • 8 months ago
  • 2 points

Why slim noctuas, but not a12x25 at the gpu?

  • 8 months ago
  • 1 point

I recycled all parts from my previous build in a Fractal Design Core 500, exception for the 3 front intake fans, those are new along with the case. Otherwise I would've bought all new fans, black chromax fans to be precise, but my budget wouldn't allow it, so it is what it is... for now.

  • 8 months ago
  • 2 points

I'm considering doing something similar to my Strix 580, (I'm a Noctua shill as well) what did you use to attach the fans to the cooler?

  • 8 months ago
  • 2 points

In all honesty, the fans are held in place using a couple cut up pieces of command strips on the center, stuck to the vga cooler. I could've used zip ties but I liked the clean look. Furthermore they are being supported by a GPU brace.

  • 8 months ago
  • 1 point

Thanks for the reply!

  • 8 months ago
  • 2 points

I love how your CPU is cooled. Its exactly how I do mine except you have 1 or 2 more fans than I do. And my fans are all Corsair instead of Noctua. I have got 3 fans on my Cooler Master 612v2, get pretty decent temps for air. Great build, I am a sucker for well thought out air cooling builds.

  • 8 months ago
  • 1 point

Thank you! That was the idea, all air cooled. Could be better, but then it would be louder, even though it's already super quiet, unless you're gaming or doing anything CPU/GPU intensive, but headphones mitigate that.

  • 8 months ago
  • 2 points

This answers my question about if a big fan like this Noctua, or the be quiet! Dark Rock 4 Pro, would fit in the Meshify C.

  • 8 months ago
  • 1 point

Yes, Meshify C will fit thiccboi air coolers, lol. If it fits an NH-D15 with the included 150mm fans, it should fit any air cooler. I don't know any that is larger than the D15. If I had a larger motherboard I could add a third fan to the D15, but that would only cool the CPU marginally at best.

  • 8 months ago
  • 2 points

I'm a sucker for the Noctua fans myself, I built a red and black themed PC myself though I used Noctua Chromax fans to match the colour scheme

  • 8 months ago
  • 1 point

I'm on the fence about replacing the fans with Chromax ones. It just feels like a waste of money. I can return some fans, but most I've had for a while and would have to sell, unless I save them for another build. All black would be glorious and beautiful. We'll see, we'll see...

  • 8 months ago
  • 2 points

+1 for the good description. Also a fan (ha ha) of your build

  • 8 months ago
  • 1 point

Thank you! Your name looks familiar...

  • 8 months ago
  • 1 point

Havent posted here (yet) but left some comments. Maybe from reddit in /r/buildapc

  • 8 months ago
  • 2 points

The figures speak for themselves - larger internal air volume combined with your tidy assembly of the modified/re-introduced fan arrangement - nice job.

  • 8 months ago
  • 2 points

Thanks! I noticed the update in your build, great job! I couldn't abide by the steadily accumulating issues with my previous case - Core 500. Great case, still have it, will probably re-use it for a build for someone else in the future. The issues: 1) Upgraded to a 850w ATX power supply because I added a 1080 Ti. Great power supply, but not the right choice in this instance, SFX makes more sense, which I had. Size forced me to remove the power supply mount in order to seat the PSU properly. Despite that, the size only being millimeters too wide, pushed against the front Noctua NF-A15 fan, causing a tower on the NH-D15 to bend. 2) The MSI GTX 1080 Ti Gaming X card is too thick for the case. You can install the card and fit the top cover, but it causes the graphics card side to bow out while pushing against the cover.

There were more issues, but they were all a product of me trying to fit slightly oversized components into a slightly undersized case. I kept modifying the case to accommodate the components, but for me a new case made more sense. Maybe Fractal Design should make an S2 version of the Core 500? Or would that defeat the purpose?

  • 8 months ago
  • 1 point

Yes - I was pretty fortunate with my component choices - The D-15S stands clear of all but a single 3.5" bay (which I can live without - given that there are two alternative points to house them) & my Zotac blower 1080ti (while not the most powerful of its generation) is slim enough to be happily housed - I've even managed to install an EVGA Powerlink adaptor to the plug end of the GPU which guides its cables neatly out the front of my case while covering the melee of other routed cables behind it. That said, reattaching the front fascia panel without it springing off due to the added bulk of spare cabling took some effort in flattening and positioning. I've since overclocked my GPU by +275MHz & by +346MHz in the Memory Clock. Along with a respectable Boost to 1857MHz I've noted a pleasing increase to Max 91FPS from 84FPS (stock boosted at 1582 MHz) when stress-testing with MSI Kombustor Furmark. I still intend to de-lid the CPU to get temps lower by ~10C and possibly the GPU as well though I'm less confident in performing that operation ?

  • 8 months ago
  • 2 points

I've put liquid metal on 3 GPU's with no issues so far. I sold my 1080 for a Ti and was upfront about the liquid metal and that didn't deter the buyer, so the card should still have resale value, if you plan to sell the card down the road. Replacing thermal paste, even with liquid metal, is easier than de-liding a CPU imo. I wonder how much temps will drop on a blower card if you use liquid metal?

  • 8 months ago
  • 1 point

Thanks - I'll happily let you know if I attempt it.

  • 8 months ago
  • 1 point

Further on this same subject - from your experience delidding your GPUs 1) What method did you use to remove the Heat Spreader ? It's just that the GPU delidding would appear to have to be done in situ as opposed to a CPU delid - where the processor is easily removed from the slot . 2) I'm a little puzzled by the liquid metal TIM issue - did you just apply it internally between the processor and the IHS rather than on the top of the IHS plate due to the potential for damage to aluminium and other parts of the GPU? Hope you don't mind my asking - BDP

  • 8 months ago
  • 2 points

YT helps a lot in these instances. I can link you a specific video, but it's mostly the same overall. Remove the heat sink. Clean off the old thermal paste with isopropyl alcohol on the gpu die and surrounding SMDS. For safety purposes (for temporary use) mask the SMDS around the gpu die with painters tape or (for permanent use) use electrical tape (easiest) or silicon glue or non-conductive thermal paste or clear nail polish. Apply a very small amount of LM on the gpu die, spread it out evenly with the included swab or cotton swab or small paint brush, and apply it on the heatsink where it makes contact with the gpu die—for better adhesion. Then screw everything back together.

*Heat sink must be copper

I think you know most of this, but that is all I did. I watched some YT videos and then one day was comfortable enough to try it myself with a tablet/phone to pause and play a video as I followed the steps just to be sure. Afterward I realized how simple it was and did it a couple more times to other video cards without thinking about it.

  • 7 months ago
  • 2 points

Nice build! Any reason that your PSU seems upside down? I thought the recommendation was to have the fan facing down, but I could be mistaken.

  • 7 months ago
  • 1 point

Thanks! The power supply fan is facing down. Your comment made me double check. Thanks again.

  • 4 months ago
  • 2 points

Love your build and used it as inspiration to move out of my H200 into the Meshify. I have a nearly identical setup only with 2x 140mm as front intake and I'm using an Arctic Accelero III with 2x a12x25s mounted on my EVGA 1080 SC. Seriously impressed with the airflow/temps and most of all silence! They say imitation is the sincerest form of flattery so consider yourself flattered.

  • 4 months ago
  • 1 point

Awesome! Thank you! I haven't been on this site in a minute, looks like they changed the layout. Looks good. I haven't had to perform any maintenance since I finished this build earlier this year. No issues with dust, or temperatures, or noise. Stays quiet and cool all the time, no matter how hard I push it on a daily basis. The video card was a mining card purchased from eBay and has had zero issues, I'm very happy with that. Post another comment if you share your build to pcpp, look forward to seeing it in all its glory. Thanks again.

  • 2 months ago
  • 2 points

Your build looks sick, I am about to build one very similar as yours, the only thing different is problaby nh-u12a instead of D15, still thinking if I should pay extra dollars for all black. Personally not a big fan of the brown. One question, I saw your fan configuration, wondering is the bottom one necessary for fractal design meshify c mini ?

  • 1 month ago
  • 1 point

Thank you. No, the bottom fan isn't necessary. I only used it because I had extra fans and wanted to fill in every space. I prefer the all black look too.

  • 1 month ago
  • 2 points

Sad life, turn out my MSI 2070 super too long ,cannot use Fractal Design Meshify C.

  • 1 month ago
  • 1 point

It's longer than 315mm? Edit: Yeah, you're right. Did some research, won't fit in the mini dark, could try the reg size version of the case tho :(

  • 1 month ago
  • 1 point

Yeah. Was hoping to get a mATX case. But it’s okay. Got the p600s. Looks super nice. And apparently the airflow supposed to be slightly better than the meshify C. :)

  • 27 days ago
  • 2 points

Peak mini-itx air cooling, this is how I want my next build to look!